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Fergus Mac Roich: Nov 5, 2008; Soiled Meat

cinci zoo sniper posted:

im getting really tired of text editor meme

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anthonypants: May 6, 2007; by Nyc_Tattoo; Dinosaur Gum

akadajet posted:

you know what a good text editor is? visual studio code.

it's intuitive and good.

it, too, has a vi mode plugin

# ? Aug 8, 2017 01:12

Fergus Mac Roich: Nov 5, 2008; Soiled Meat

Corla Plankun posted:

i still dont know how tf to paste into vim even though ive done it successfully like ten or twelve times

Ctrl R "

i just tried shift insert and it also worked but it's straight up vi on Solaris so ymmv

# ? Aug 8, 2017 01:14

the talent deficit: Dec 20, 2003; self-deprecation is a very british trait, and problems can arise when the british attempt to do so with a foreign culture

akadajet posted:

you know what a good text editor is? visual studio code.

it's intuitive and good.

vsc is my daily driver for python, rust, erlang, elixir, elm, haskell, kittens, typescript and javascript

# ? Aug 8, 2017 01:15

hobbesmaster: Jan 28, 2008

Corla Plankun posted:

i still dont know how tf to paste into vim even though ive done it successfully like ten or twelve times

from the system clipboard? it's simple! the system clipboard is assigned the " register so it's just "+y to copy and "+p to paste!

# ? Aug 8, 2017 01:18

Asymmetrikon: Oct 30, 2009; I believe you're a big dork!

Corla Plankun posted:

i still dont know how tf to paste into vim even though ive done it successfully like ten or twelve times

code:

:set<SPC>paste<CR>i<C-v><ESC>:set<SPC>nopaste<CR>

# ? Aug 8, 2017 01:21

jony neuemonic: Nov 13, 2009

the talent deficit posted:

vsc is my daily driver for python, rust, erlang, elixir, elm, haskell, kittens, typescript and javascript

i've been using it for c because i can't be bothered to learn a new ide at the same time as a new language. it's not bad.

it's real good for c# but that's not surprising.

# ? Aug 8, 2017 01:21

MononcQc: May 29, 2007

I started using vs code on windows because the terminal situation is atrocious there and it's pretty good so far. A modal editing plugin and things are good.

# ? Aug 8, 2017 01:28

Ellie Crabcakes: Feb 1, 2008; Stop emailing my boyfriend Gay Crungus

I use vim because I am old and set in my ways. Why you would torture yourself with it in an IDE is, however, a mystery to me.

# ? Aug 8, 2017 02:06

eschaton: Mar 7, 2007; Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

Don�t model me in!

I got to see Bravo running on YC�s Alto this weekend at VCF West

also it existed before vi

it didn�t go modeless until 1979, but at least it did

eschaton fucked around with this message at 02:43 on Aug 8, 2017

# ? Aug 8, 2017 02:40

eschaton: Mar 7, 2007; Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

MononcQc posted:

I started using vs code on windows because the terminal situation is atrocious there and it�s pretty good so far. A modal editing plugin and things are good.

you know what�s even better?

getting rid of the �modal editing� plug-in

use modeless editing for a few weeks and you�ll be faster because of the lower cognitive load

# ? Aug 8, 2017 02:42

JewKiller 3000: Nov 28, 2006; by Lowtax

eschaton posted:

use modeless editing for a few weeks and you�ll be faster because of the lower cognitive load

do you have any evidence for this or is it just how you feel?

# ? Aug 8, 2017 02:49

my homie dhall: Dec 9, 2010; honey, oh please, it's just a machine

brain hurtying at work cause of vim cognitive load

# ? Aug 8, 2017 02:55

MononcQc: May 29, 2007

eschaton posted:

you know what�s even better?

getting rid of the �modal editing� plug-in

use modeless editing for a few weeks and you�ll be faster because of the lower cognitive load

I started without modal editing. I had to adopt it because I would get severe tendonitis that would keep me from working more than 2 hours a day at ~20 years old. With modal editing I can use a computer for more than 8 hours a day without a problem. I'm never going back, because going back means I can't work anymore.

# ? Aug 8, 2017 03:05

MononcQc: May 29, 2007

my editor, my terminal, and my browser all have vim keybindings in them. Come to the normal mode for an rear end kicking.

# ? Aug 8, 2017 03:13

curufinor: Apr 4, 2016; by Smythe

modal editing is worth the brick wall learning curve if and only if you stare at a screen and type poo poo all day every day
this describes everyone in the thread i think tho

# ? Aug 8, 2017 03:16

redleader: Aug 18, 2005; Engage according to operational parameters

but is modal editing better with tabs or spaces?

# ? Aug 8, 2017 03:27

Sapozhnik: Jan 2, 2005; Nap Ghost

I use vim to edit un-analyzeable langs like C but any time I use an actual IDE I don't really find myself missing it :shrug:

There are also a bunch of annoying little things about vim, like the fact that it doesn't display what the hell file each numbered buffer holds

"oh, but there's a plugin for that! you just..."

translation: "oh, this product is defective out of the box, but it's cool you can fix it because you obviously don't have any actual work that could better occupy your time"

# ? Aug 8, 2017 04:30

cinci zoo sniper: Mar 15, 2013

akadajet posted:

you know what a good text editor is? visual studio code.

it's intuitive and good.

agreed. extremely my poo poo for latex documents

# ? Aug 8, 2017 04:35

akadajet: Sep 14, 2003

Corla Plankun posted:

i still dont know how tf to paste into vim even though ive done it successfully like ten or twelve times

in vim you don't copy and paste. you yank and pull

# ? Aug 8, 2017 04:37

curufinor: Apr 4, 2016; by Smythe

and you gotta set compiletime flags to yank and pull from os clipboard
so that's the brick wall difficulty thing
but I can't do code editing in a non-vim-plugined ide anymore
I literally instinctively spam vim commands and get frustrated when I don't exit into normal mode

# ? Aug 8, 2017 04:39

pokeyman: Nov 26, 2006; That elephant ate my entire platoon.

akadajet posted:

in vim you don�t copy and paste. you yank and pull

in every macOS text box you can do either/both!

# ? Aug 8, 2017 04:59

Luigi Thirty: Apr 30, 2006; Emergency confection port.

I�ve been attempting to get goddamn ProDOS disks to load all day

there are two disk image formats (well, three but NIB doesn�t count here) for Apple 2: DOS-order and ProDOS-order.

DOS-order images contain a sector-by-sector dump of the disk in the DOS 3.3 sector interleave order.

ProDOS on the other hand stores files in 512-byte blocks, so ProDOS disk images contain a dump of each block in order. You have to split a block into two sectors, work out the interleaved logical sector for each half-block and then convert that to a physical disk sector (which is different from the DOS sector order). I�ve got some weird problem with sector ordering or something where the bootblock loads and then the disk crashes

then there are NIB files which are just a dump of the data on the disk surface independent of any sector ordering, except when they�re not because ciderpress was made by hitler

# ? Aug 8, 2017 09:20

JawnV6: Jul 4, 2004; So hot ...

suffix posted:

https://deadlockempire.github.io/
this is pretty good to put the fear in you if you've ever thought oh threading isn't so hard just use a mutex

lol

# ? Aug 8, 2017 09:30

cinci zoo sniper: Mar 15, 2013

best mongo gui for the case when i have no way around it?

# ? Aug 8, 2017 09:53

leper khan: Dec 28, 2010; Honest to god thinks Half Life 2 is a bad game. But at least he likes Monster Hunter.

os clipboard goes into the + register.

"+p pastes in normal mode.

# ? Aug 8, 2017 09:57

fart simpson: Jul 2, 2005; DEATH TO AMERICA

cinci zoo sniper posted:

best mongo gui for the case when i have no way around it?

lol

# ? Aug 8, 2017 10:41

cinci zoo sniper: Mar 15, 2013

fart simpson posted:

lol

the only thing less funny than this is coworker who pronounces it as mango >:[

# ? Aug 8, 2017 11:17

gonadic io: Feb 16, 2011; >>=

mon-joe

# ? Aug 8, 2017 11:48

Powerful Two-Hander: Mar 10, 2004; Mods please change my name to "Tooter Skeleton" TIA.

hmm is it worth me adding typescript for managing "helper" scripts in .Net mvc? it seems like I need a whole load of libraries added just to do $(myAss). Append() which is like 80% of the usage

# ? Aug 8, 2017 11:53

MononcQc: May 29, 2007

Sapozhnik posted:

I use vim to edit un-analyzeable langs like C but any time I use an actual IDE I don't really find myself missing it

There are also a bunch of annoying little things about vim, like the fact that it doesn't display what the hell file each numbered buffer holds

"oh, but there's a plugin for that! you just..."

translation: "oh, this product is defective out of the box, but it's cool you can fix it because you obviously don't have any actual work that could better occupy your time"

you can use :ls to get the list of buffers with filenames, but personally I just work with tabs and panes which show the filename nonetheless.

# ? Aug 8, 2017 12:27

cinci zoo sniper: Mar 15, 2013

gonadic io posted:

mon-joe

# ? Aug 8, 2017 12:27

Wheany: Mar 17, 2006; Spinya^{ha^{ha^haha}ha}ha_{ha_{ha_haha}ha}ha!; Doctor Rope

akadajet posted:

in vim you don't copy and paste. you yank and pull

but yanking and pulling is the same thing?

# ? Aug 8, 2017 13:15

CRIP EATIN BREAD: Jun 24, 2002; Hey stop worrying bout my acting bitch, and worry about your WACK ass music. In the mean time... Eat a hot bowl of Dicks! Ice T; Soiled Meat