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Lurdiak posted:Nope he had to resign because of blackmail material Dr. Spider-octopus released of him. Or something. Like most of Slott's stories I barely remember it. But his political career is over. Two years ago I'd agree with you, but in 2017...
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SiKboy posted:Two years ago I'd agree with you, but in 2017... Ha! Obviously it's comics, so nothing's stopping them from just putting him back in politics, but that doesn't seem to be the plan. Lord knows characters like Iron Man have come back from much worse.
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Aug 7, 2017 15:33
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Lurdiak posted:Ha! Obviously it's comics, so nothing's stopping them from just putting him back in politics, but that doesn't seem to be the plan. Lord knows characters like Iron Man have come back from much worse. I just can't imagine JJJ taking a job that require him to move out of NYC.
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Aug 7, 2017 16:38
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I still hear Ed Asner for JJJ. Simmons is amazing as the campier JJJ but as the serious newsman with a voice of gravel, casting Lou Grant himself is like the voice equivalent of Patrick Stewart for Xavier.
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Aug 8, 2017 01:17
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Lurdiak posted:Nope he had to resign because of blackmail material Dr. Spider-octopus released of him. Or something. Like most of Slott's stories I barely remember it. But his political career is over. So yeah, he's on the Fox News MU equvilant now
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Aug 8, 2017 11:08
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Speaking of JJJ as politician, how many characters have tried running for politics? I know Luthor was president briefly, and Hundred from Ex Machina, but are there any other big names? I think Ollie Queen was mayor once? How did that turn out?
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Aug 8, 2017 21:11
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Madkal posted:Speaking of JJJ as politician, how many characters have tried running for politics? I know Luthor was president briefly, and Hundred from Ex Machina, but are there any other big names? I think Ollie Queen was mayor once? How did that turn out? The head of the Secret Empire was a big-name politician.
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Aug 8, 2017 21:13
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Sunshine Superman is president on Earth-whatever.
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Aug 8, 2017 21:14
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Cap very briefly considered running for office, and Tony was briefly Defense Secretary or something like that.
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Aug 8, 2017 21:44
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Madkal posted:Speaking of JJJ as politician, how many characters have tried running for politics? I know Luthor was president briefly, and Hundred from Ex Machina, but are there any other big names? I think Ollie Queen was mayor once? How did that turn out? IIRC, he got recalled when it came out he was secretly financing the Outsiders. The Squadron Supreme's Nighthawk was President of the US, and of course Tony Stark spent a while as George W. Bush's Secretary of Defense. And Barbara Gordon was in Congress for a little while during the 70s, I believe.
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Aug 8, 2017 21:46
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Didn't Falcon run for Congress at one point?
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Aug 8, 2017 21:56
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howe_sam posted:Didn't Falcon run for Congress at one point? Yep. DeMatteis actually used that storyline to retcon out his retconned in backstory of being a criminal with altered memories, but unfortunately it didn't stick.
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Aug 8, 2017 22:08
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Endless Mike posted:Sunshine Superman is president on Earth-whatever. I think you're mixing up your black Supermen.
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Aug 8, 2017 22:18
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Olver Queen was mayor for a while I think. Barbara Gordon was a congresswoman Jay Garrick was also a mayor If you count What-Ifs then Superman, Captain America, Bruce Wayne, Deathstroke, etc, etc, etc pretty much every remotely recognizable name has been a President or something
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Aug 8, 2017 22:21
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Open Marriage Night posted:I think you're mixing up your black Supermen. I thought they were the same Superman, honestly.
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Aug 8, 2017 22:25
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Does District Attorney count as a political office, because I feel like a bunch of DC's street level C-listers are DAs, like Manhunter and Vigilante and so on.
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Aug 8, 2017 22:39
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Batman ran for mayor against the Penguin, once. 
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Aug 8, 2017 22:53
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Gaz-L posted:Does District Attorney count as a political office, because I feel like a bunch of DC's street level C-listers are DAs, like Manhunter and Vigilante and so on. Well, and Harvey Dent by that same token I'd be surprised if Kingpin never made a bid for office, though in modern story telling, it's easier for him to just puppet someone already in office. Penguin has run for mayor, but I think has been defeated before winning office.
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Aug 8, 2017 22:58
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Firehawk, Lorraine Reilly, sometimes girlfriend of Ronnie Raymond Firestorm, is a senator.
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Aug 8, 2017 23:04
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Foggy Nelson was Manhattan DA at one point.
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Aug 8, 2017 23:30
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Batgirl being a congresswoman is one of those things that, when I first heard about it, I assumed was a parody of Bronze Age "THE BOLD AND THE RELEVANT" comics.
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Aug 8, 2017 23:51
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Endless Mike posted:I thought they were the same Superman, honestly. Sunshine Superman has a sun around his S, and an afro. Member of the Love Syndicate. President Superman is from Earth 23. His Justice League has all black members besides Batman.
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Aug 9, 2017 00:13
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I'm more of a Marvel guy but I read DC's stuff on and off since Identity Crisis (which got me into comics). Cyborg always kinda seemed like a character who, while important for teams like the Titans, never really was an A-Lister. Then the New 52 made him a founding Leaguer. My question is, did I miss something? I admit I read DC on and off so maybe I missed it, but was Cyborg's elevation to top tier out of nowhere or was there precedent for it?
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Aug 9, 2017 03:53
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OldTennisCourt posted:I'm more of a Marvel guy but I read DC's stuff on and off since Identity Crisis (which got me into comics). Cyborg always kinda seemed like a character who, while important for teams like the Titans, never really was an A-Lister. Then the New 52 made him a founding Leaguer. Geoff Johns is a big New Teen Titans fan Also condolences about Identity Crisis.
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Aug 9, 2017 04:02
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OldTennisCourt posted:I'm more of a Marvel guy but I read DC's stuff on and off since Identity Crisis (which got me into comics). Cyborg always kinda seemed like a character who, while important for teams like the Titans, never really was an A-Lister. Then the New 52 made him a founding Leaguer. See Marvel Comics, Carol Danvers.
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Aug 9, 2017 04:08
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OldTennisCourt posted:I'm more of a Marvel guy but I read DC's stuff on and off since Identity Crisis (which got me into comics). Cyborg always kinda seemed like a character who, while important for teams like the Titans, never really was an A-Lister. Then the New 52 made him a founding Leaguer. Justice League can only have 1 black guy and they're committed to Hal Jordan for some reason, so we're stuck with Cyborg, who nobody likes.
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Aug 9, 2017 04:15
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CzarChasm posted:I'd be surprised if Kingpin never made a bid for office, though in modern story telling, it's easier for him to just puppet someone already in office. This is also a pretty concise rundown of at least everyone who became President across realities in Marvel. And at DC. Howard the Duck ran for president in 1976, and Prez was... well, Prez in 1974. I think those were the first two storylines they did about this, outside of I guess Secret Empire or the time that JFK impersonated Superman in a comic that came out right after he died.
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Soonmot posted:Justice League can only have 1 black guy and they're committed to Hal Jordan for some reason, so we're stuck with Cyborg, who nobody likes. That's pretty much it, I suspect -- they wanted to add some color to the Justice League lineup (other than Martian green). Cyborg is one of the few black heroes who's powerful enough to put in the League without being completely overshadowed, and unlike Steel or John Stewart, he's not an offshoot of an already existing Leaguer.
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Aug 9, 2017 04:30
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Hal is already not the 'original' Lantern, so you can gently caress off with this implication that John Stewart is in the same league as spinoffs like Steel. Anyway New 52 was a reboot so that would have been the perfect opportunity to make John Stewart the Green Lantern, and not an offshoot of anybody, but no, Johns had already jerked off onto every issue of Hal Jordan he could find, so he had to get some more printed.
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Aug 9, 2017 13:31
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Wheat Loaf posted:Batgirl being a congresswoman is one of those things that, when I first heard about it, I assumed was a parody of Bronze Age "THE BOLD AND THE RELEVANT" comics. Barbara Gordon being a congresswoman means that pre-Killing Joke, she was 25 or older. Kind of recontextualizes a lot of Dick Grayson stories.
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Claytor posted:Barbara Gordon being a congresswoman means that pre-Killing Joke, she was 25 or older. There's always a good amount of years between the two of them but Congresswoman Gordon was definitely pre-Crisis so it's not in continuity with killing joke anyway 
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purple death ray posted:Hal is already not the 'original' Lantern, so you can gently caress off with this implication that John Stewart is in the same league as spinoffs like Steel. Anyway New 52 was a reboot so that would have been the perfect opportunity to make John Stewart the Green Lantern, and not an offshoot of anybody, but no, Johns had already jerked off onto every issue of Hal Jordan he could find, so he had to get some more printed. I hate Hal Jordan so hard you can call me 80s-era Star Sapphire, mind you. And you're quite right that nothing was stopping them from having Stewart be senior to Hal in enringment, but weren't GL things semi-exempt from New 52 due to Johns?
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Endless Mike posted:I thought they were the same Superman, honestly.  Sunshine Superman's president is OG Prez, for those who were wondering. I also learned recently that it's only been five years in-timeline since Zero Year, and just months since Flashpoint. Am I the only one who thinks that sounds completely insane?
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Autism Sneaks posted:I also learned recently that it's only been five years in-timeline since Zero Year, and just months since Flashpoint. Am I the only one who thinks that sounds completely insane? Where did you read that? Jon Kent's existence kind of contradicts that.
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Rhyno posted:Where did you read that? Jon Kent's existence kind of contradicts that. Yeah, Superman Reborn pretty much shits all over that timeline. I seriously doubt that's the case.
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Aug 19, 2017 03:34
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The start of the New 52, maybe. But that's ancient history.
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Rhyno posted:Where did you read that? Jon Kent's existence kind of contradicts that. IIRC the Zero Year storyline explicitly says "six years ago" in its lead-in. Jon Kent's existence is also a more recent retcon that fucks with the timeline even more, so. Expecting a coherent timeline out of DC at this point is a fool's errand.
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Rhyno posted:Where did you read that? Jon Kent's existence kind of contradicts that. Batman: the former is stated in War of Jokes and Riddles iirc, and the latter is from the Flash tie-in when they visit Flashpoint and Thomas Wayne
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Wait, does this mean batman did the do with Talia while he was still training, or are they doing the dumb 'accelerated young age' thing with damian
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KaosMachina posted:Wait, does this mean batman did the do with Talia while he was still training, or are they doing the dumb 'accelerated young age' thing with damian Well, he turned 13 in Robin: Son of Batman, so I assume the former, but in a continuity that is already hosed top to bottom Batman makes especially little sense (see: Batman Inc.)
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