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Berke Negri posted:I feel like if the original Twin Peaks had never revealed who murdered Laura Palmer it probably would have played out like every other cliffhanger show did in the mid-2000s, eventually wearing thin and too long and the reveal being completely underwhelming or disappointing. How could the reveal be underwhelming if they never revealed it?
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Berke Negri posted:I feel like if the original Twin Peaks had never revealed who murdered Laura Palmer it probably would have played out like every other cliffhanger show did in the mid-2000s, eventually wearing thin and too long and the reveal being completely underwhelming or disappointing. Fortunately Twin Peaks developed a pretty engaging mythos (all the lodge stuff, which is mostly what FWWM and The Return are riding on) that can carry it but there doesn't seem to really been any plan for season 2 to gracefully pilot that ship. In a way, Twin Peaks getting cancelled was the best thing that could have happened to it. The show stayed unfinished, and so we were left craving more for decades, instead of getting bored with it. It's the purest form of seriality, really. Now, there is a more perfect end in sight, though. David Lynch is not exactly a spring chicken. As the cast let Showtime know, there is no Twin Peaks without him. You can't fade away if you burn out first. 
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Aug 8, 2017 21:55
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The revelation of the killer and the first third of s2 in which it happens are really fantastic episodes and the peak of an amazing performance by Ray Wise I'd never give them up
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Aug 8, 2017 22:09
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Like the scene where Leland announces his triumphant, gray-haired return to Ben and Jerry, the one where he sexually menaces and murders Maddy, and the really tense one where Harry pulls him over in the next episode are some of the best scenes in the entire show
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Aug 8, 2017 22:11
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http://imgur.com/a/Sj20W The David Lynch Foundation sponsored this? Supports this? Hmm....
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wizard on a water slide posted:The revelation of the killer and the first third of s2 in which it happens are really fantastic episodes and the peak of an amazing performance by Ray Wise Completely agree, it's my favorite section of the show and it led directly into Fire Walk With Me. I'm glad things went the way they did even if it means a big chunk of season 2 was dumb.
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Aug 8, 2017 22:12
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Just be like Dougie. Accept and fully experience a thing like you've never encountered it before with immersion and child-like innocence. Except James subplots. Heck, Season 2 isn't really that offensive to me and I'm ok how it went because we got FWWM. Also I read the spoilers for the leaked Ep.14 from the accidental posting on the German stream tv. Yooooooo poo poo is gonna be crazy.
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Aug 8, 2017 22:19
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I hope we find out that James and whatever her name (blonde girl from his plot) wound up together and have been happy together ever since they recovered her ex-lover's mystical amulet that led them to the treasure her ex-husband had been hiding from his evil twin brother.
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Aug 8, 2017 22:27
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cjg posted:http://imgur.com/a/Sj20W 
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Aug 8, 2017 22:41
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Oh..it's in the original? Durr on me.
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Aug 8, 2017 22:44
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Man, I genuinely thought that was supposed to be Nic Cage refusing to hug the Sandman.
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Zmej posted:Also I read the spoilers for the leaked Ep.14 from the accidental posting on the German stream tv. Yooooooo poo poo is gonna be crazy. 
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Aug 8, 2017 22:47
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Rageaholic Monkey posted:I still can't find a loving way to watch this Twin Peaks airs on Sunday nights on Showtime.
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Aug 8, 2017 23:09
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It seriously doesn't seem to have been ripped by anyone. I thought these damned Germans were meant to be efficient!
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And More posted:If Lynch wanted The Return to be viewed in its totality, he should have released it in a big lump like Netflix does. Since he didn't, it doesn't seem wrong to judge each episode individually. There is an end in sight, but chances are it'll just give you a cliffhanger like season one and season two. I'm pretty sure that cutting it up into a series of single episodes was what Showtime wanted, not Lynch. If Lynch was in charge of release I imagine it would have just been one solid 18-hour film.
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Aug 8, 2017 23:21
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Nearly all of Lynch's films have been cut shorter than he wanted due to input from the studio. Perhaps this has actually benefitted his work and giving him total control is working to his detriment as he doesn't know how to edit his ideas.
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TheMaestroso posted:I'm pretty sure that cutting it up into a series of single episodes was what Showtime wanted, not Lynch. If Lynch was in charge of release I imagine it would have just been one solid 18-hour film. Once it's all said and done, I'm sure people will look at it that way, too. Currently, though, there is no point in pretending like there aren't some serious issues on an episode by episode level. It can't have been all that important to him, anyway, since he didn't squabble with Showtime over it.
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Aug 8, 2017 23:37
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cis autodrag posted:Nearly all of Lynch's films have been cut shorter than he wanted due to input from the studio. Perhaps this has actually benefitted his work and giving him total control is working to his detriment as he doesn't know how to edit his ideas. Was Mulholland Drive cut for the studio? Aside from re-editing to change it from a pilot to a movie, I mean. Escobarbarian posted:It seriously doesn't seem to have been ripped by anyone. I thought these damned Germans were meant to be efficient! Supposedly anti-piracy laws are much more strictly enforced there.
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Aug 8, 2017 23:40
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And More posted:Once it's all said and done, I'm sure people will look at it that way, too. Currently, though, there is no point in pretending like there aren't some serious issues on an episode by episode level. It can't have been all that important to him, anyway, since he didn't squabble with Showtime over it. I would imagine the release schedule was some sort of compromise to get to film what he wanted with who he wanted. cis autodrag posted:Nearly all of Lynch's films have been cut shorter than he wanted due to input from the studio. Perhaps this has actually benefitted his work and giving him total control is working to his detriment as he doesn't know how to edit his ideas. I'm sure it's possible in some cases (I don't know the production history of much of his filmography), but definitely not in the case of Dune. That one's an executive mandate-ridden mess that wasted the potential to be an amazing adaptation.
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Aug 8, 2017 23:48
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late but, all these people surprised Dougie/Coop knows martial arts, guy was a top agent in the FBI, he knows martial arts.
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sector_corrector posted:Twin Peaks airs on Sunday nights on Showtime.
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Aug 8, 2017 23:59
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Vikar Jerome posted:please do because i'm not sure what you mean by pop in, the second car headlights come in from the very right edge as anything regular would. Ok, you caused me to go full  explaining why everyone talking about this is wrong.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVUZGGjuj4k https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqhTwXMOhxM tl;dr: the reflection jumps because they cut to a different shot as the car drives by. There are several other things in the shot that jump as well.
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Aug 9, 2017 00:15
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wa27 posted:Ok, you caused me to go full ed's doppelganger is in the window's reflection and ghosts are driving the cars sorry you're wrong
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Aug 9, 2017 00:19
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for another example of someone's body warping when the camera angle changes, see the Nadine/Dr. Amp scene when Nadine crosses her arms
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Aug 9, 2017 00:20
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"Hey James wants us to go up and sing in his song."
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Zmej posted:Just be like Dougie. Accept and fully experience a thing like you've never encountered it before with immersion and child-like innocence. Except James subplots. Heck, Season 2 isn't really that offensive to me and I'm ok how it went because we got FWWM. Yeah I'm trying to treat this like my first viewing of Mulholland Dr where I was just willing to follow all of the weird avenues like music. There's a chance I will have things to complain about when it has ended but I want to see the whole package first. I am trying not to be negative about anything until then (although I really have very little complaints in general, although the pacing may become an issue if there is no time and/or alternative universe weirdness going on). I just doubt there will be a television program this enrapturing and hypnotizing on television for a long time so I am just savouring it right now and saving any potential criticism for after the whole series is completed. Such exciting news about the episode. You are the third person online I have heard say that. Trying not to hype myself up too much though because I did that for 12 and it was the only one I was somewhat underwhelmed by.
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wa27 posted:Ok, you caused me to go full Now that's some good detectiving. Can we have more spergy posts like this, please? Slum Village posted:Such exciting news about the episode. You are the third person online I have heard say that. Trying not to hype myself up too much though because I did that for 12 and it was the only one I was somewhat underwhelmed by. They called it "crowd pleasing", so I assume it's gonna be Dougie munching pie and drinking coffee for 60 minutes. And More fucked around with this message at 00:29 on Aug 9, 2017 |
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Rageaholic Monkey posted:I still can't find a loving way to watch this I guess the 15 German people that watch it didn't think to record it.
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wa27 posted:Ok, you caused me to go full
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Aug 9, 2017 00:53
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The backflips you guys will do to give Lynch credit for things is amazing.
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Aug 9, 2017 00:56
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yeah and lol at all the editing mistakes in the sarah palmer scene
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lol, I love how sloppy this show is. One, because clearly Lynch doesn't care and two, it creates pages of goons and redditors spinning batshit theories.
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Aug 9, 2017 01:30
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Inland Empire was pure lynch, and also nearly impossible to sit through, so ima go with a little oversight being a good thing
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Tolkien minority posted:Inland Empire was pure lynch, and also nearly impossible to sit through, so ima go with a little oversight being a good thing It had so many great parts. Sunny Jim playing on his new playground in the latest episode reminded me of this: 
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Aug 9, 2017 01:35
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cis autodrag posted:Nearly all of Lynch's films have been cut shorter than he wanted due to input from the studio. Perhaps this has actually benefitted his work and giving him total control is working to his detriment as he doesn't know how to edit his ideas. Not true at all. Lynch has had final cut on everything he's done since Dune.
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chime_on posted:Not true at all. Lynch has had final cut on everything he's done since Dune. He still had to hit a runtime target though. Here he's just put in everything he wants to.
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Lord Krangdar posted:It had so many great parts. Sunny Jim playing on his new playground in the latest episode reminded me of this: Lotta great parts, but an absolutely incoherent whole (please dont use this as an excuse to tell me why im wrong and its actually perfect this is my opinion).
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Aug 9, 2017 01:42
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Inland Empire is like pure distilled film. I dig it but I'd never rag on anyone for not liking it. Also I actually kinda want to see Dougie vs. Booper, Dougie did bust out some pretty slick moves against Ike the Spike.
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Tolkien minority posted:Lotta great parts, but an absolutely incoherent whole (please dont use this as an excuse to tell me why im wrong and its actually perfect this is my opinion). I don't blame anyone for disliking it, but I never understood how it got the reputation for being incoherent.
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Tolkien minority posted:Lotta great parts, but an absolutely incoherent whole (please dont use this as an excuse to tell me why im wrong and its actually perfect this is my opinion). aight, i won't tell you why you're wrong
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