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Drunk Theory posted:And yet, they've begun creating policy to phase transgender people out of the military. I thought the wording was simply "Tweets are not official orders, we will "review" this "policy proposal" and "come back" with an well studied "answer" once it is "finished"." AKA: Look rear end in a top hat, you think congress can drag it's feet? Hold our beer. Unless I missed something.
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FizFashizzle posted:So basically trump thought the FBI raid would leak so he immediately tried to create a media distraction by sending out an order on twitter that the military completely ignored. The trans thing was because he misunderstood a request from House Republicans to ban the military from paying for transition surgeries.
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HappyHippo posted:The trans thing was because he misunderstood a request from House Republicans to ban the military from paying for transition surgeries.  Seriously?
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Kekekela posted:
Yep. Ryan was dealing with holdouts on the issue of paying for transition surgery/treatment while hashing out the defense budget. He decided to end around by asking Trump to EO it to get rid of the issue. Trump either misinterpreted it took upon himself to go there extra mile.
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Bicyclops posted:This keeps getting posted, but they are codifying it into law as we speak, unfortunately. Well, not law, but policy. A new president could reverse it quickly.
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Kekekela posted:
Yes http://www.politico.com/story/2017/07/26/trump-transgender-military-ban-behind-the-scenes-240990
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HappyHippo posted:Yes mango sentinel posted:Yep. Ryan was dealing with holdouts on the issue of paying for transition surgery/treatment while hashing out the defense budget. He decided to end around by asking Trump to EO it to get rid of the issue. Trump either misinterpreted it took upon himself to go there extra mile. I can't believe at 200+ days again this dumbass can still surprise me.
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What was weird about the trans ban tweets was that they were written almost professionally, which is unheard of for him. So it felt legitimate.
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Crain posted:I thought the wording was simply "Tweets are not official orders, we will "review" this "policy proposal" and "come back" with an well studied "answer" once it is "finished"." No, the military just said tweets are not orders. Trump's administration is working on transforming Trump's tweet into an order, which the military would then have to immediately follow. They just need to figure out the details on what to do with trans currently serving. There's also a small chance that they were surprised by the extremely bad reaction and may be re-thinking it, but I wouldn't count on it since Trump never, ever admits to making a mistake or being wrong about anything. Thats probably what motivated his tweet, he was reportedly frustrated with lawyers and advisors telling him why it wasn't a good idea, and went "gently caress it, I'm sending a tweet, now its done, we can't take it back, so stop arguing with me!"
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DreamShipWrecked posted:What was weird about the trans ban tweets was that they were written almost professionally, which is unheard of for him. So it felt legitimate. I guarantee he did not write those. At least, not directly.
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fishing with the fam posted:Myth: Repealing Obamacare would kick people off medicaid. https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/895295658852315136 To conservatives, Medicaid isn't for poor people, it's only for the disabled.
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HappyHippo posted:The trans thing was because he misunderstood a request from House Republicans to ban the military from paying for transition surgeries. It can be both.
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The world is so insane that I actually had to check to see if this was real.
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Looking at the time stamps on his tweets the last 24 hours, did Trump not sleep? 6:16 PM - 8 Aug 2017 11:56 PM - 8 Aug 2017 12:05 AM - 9 Aug 2017 12:35 AM - 9 Aug 2017 3:00 AM - 9 Aug 2017 3:17 AM - 9 Aug 2017 4:56 AM - 9 Aug 2017 5:03 AM - 9 Aug 2017 Bicyclops posted:The world is so insane that I actually had to check to see if this was real. Me too.
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Bicyclops posted:The world is so insane that I actually had to check to see if this was real. I did too. 
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Reik posted:Looking at the time stamps on his tweets the last 24 hours, did Trump not sleep? Guessing 8:00->11:30, then 1:00->3:00ish. When you get older, you start splitting your sleep into a couple blocks and putter around for a while.
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Bicyclops posted:The world is so insane that I actually had to check to see if this was real. It isn't real? oh thank god.
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:superfluous dogposting: Trump trained Spicey the same way
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Reik posted:Looking at the time stamps on his tweets the last 24 hours, did Trump not sleep? Presidents don't really sleep a lot in general, but the low sleep thing has been a thing for Trump for a long time, even on the campaign trail he bragged about only sleeping like 3-4 hours a night. It's surely doing wonders for his mental state.
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https://twitter.com/kyletblaine/status/895302892265103360 Don't blame McCain, blame his brain tumor.
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FizFashizzle posted:It can be both. Don't assign some sort of strategy to Trump's deranged tweeting. It's literally just a senile old man yelling at his tv.
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Iirc that McCabe tweetstorm was several hours after the transgender ban. The transgender tweets were real early in the morning, likely while the raid was in progress. It'd be some real irony if that long pause he made between those first two tweets was because he was just getting word of the raid.
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saintonan posted:https://twitter.com/kyletblaine/status/895302892265103360 So what he's saying is we shouldn't be thanking McCain, but his Brain Tumor.
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So I'm assuming whoever writes the book on this dumpster fire is going to cross reference every significant event with whatever stupid tweet he sent out at that time.
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Ginette Reno posted:Trump trained Spicey the same way Holy moly, what a cool dog!
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Radish posted:So I'm assuming whoever writes the book on this dumpster fire is going to cross reference every significant event with whatever stupid tweet he sent out at that time. They already wrote the book on this administration. Haven't you read A Canticle for Leibowitz?
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mutata posted:Brain Tumor 2020 Growing a greater America.
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saintonan posted:https://twitter.com/kyletblaine/status/895302892265103360 I assumed that what he was getting at was that McCain decided he was not going to have to face the voters again, so he could be free to do whatever he wants, but no, he's literally saying the tumor may have scrambled his brain.
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Yo he was going off his rocker way before now and you GOP shmucks we're fine with it. Voting no was the most coherent thing he has done in a while.
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HappyHippo posted:Don't assign some sort of strategy to Trump's deranged tweeting. It's literally just a senile old man yelling at his tv. Nah we know historically he was very good at changing media narratives in New York with fake publicists, bribing and suing people, etc. It's just he's completely out of his league now and instead of overwhelming the political press he's feeding them and making them stronger. I can absolutely believe he wanted to swamp a leak expected to drop (mueller raid) with an executive order he misunderstood from republicans.
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Simplex posted:They are an opposition research firm founded by former journalists. Their involvement in this whole affair is pretty loving bizarre, but the same can be said about most any of the other primary actors. They were originally hired by someone in the Republican Party to dig up dirt on Trump. Once Trump won the Republican nomination, whoever commissioned the research pulled out, but then some Democrat benefactor stepped in and funded the effort. The bizarre connection is that previously Fusion GPS was hired by the law firm representing Prevezon, a Russian firm who had their assets seized as part of the Magnitsky Act. Veselnitskaya, when she met with Trump Jr., was in the US on a visa to represent the company in their court case. So they're basically ODIN or ISIS or some Archer poo poo?
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The Glumslinger posted:So they're basically ODIN or ISIS or some Archer poo poo? Nothing so dramatic, they're glorified private detectives. They are hired to dig up dirt on opponents, and get a pass socially because they are true mercenaries; they will work for anyone as demonstrated by switching sides so often.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...68ed_story.html Did we talk about the FBI raiding Paul Manafort?
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McCain has nearly a full term remaining... keep ostracizing him. I do assume that McCain's time in the hospital was hand-in-hand with numerous medical professionals hinting to him that it was an awful bill though.
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Crabtree posted:https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...68ed_story.html hours ago and it is cool/good
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Sloober posted:hours ago and it is cool/good Sorry dude, things fly so fast these days I just heard of it.
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saintonan posted:https://twitter.com/kyletblaine/status/895302892265103360 https://twitter.com/pinboard/status/889174363974627333
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Boon posted:McCain has nearly a full term remaining... keep ostracizing him. Yeah he'll be in office for the rest of his life
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