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Look at that fuckin' hipster. Finally something good for the mono black vampires deck in Legacy cube.
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Aug 9, 2017 15:52
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80s James Hetfield posted:Teferi was never printed in white I didn't think? Unless it was like way before I started playing. that has no nissa flavor, and loving around with phasing is absolutely teferi's wheelhouse
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Aug 9, 2017 15:52
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80s James Hetfield posted:Teferi was never printed in white I didn't think? Unless it was like way before I started playing. I'm not referring to Teferi himself. I'm referring to these:   
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Aug 9, 2017 15:53
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Count Bleck posted:I'm not referring to Teferi himself. Ah ok, makes sense I guess now.
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Aug 9, 2017 15:54
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These vampires are so sexy. Each one could be used in it's own deck and own theme. AMAAAAAZING
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Aug 9, 2017 15:57
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En Fuego posted:These vampires are so sexy. Each one could be used in it's own deck and own theme. AMAAAAAZING Agree, the vampires look the best, and are in the most interesting color combination. Wizards did not need any more support in EDH and another tribe should have been chosen (Clerics? Shamans?). It would be cool to have more Green wizards however.
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Aug 9, 2017 16:01
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I think Lucia is the weakest of all of them, but Mathas is extremely my poo poo. Literally put big ol targets on poo poo you don't like.
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Aug 9, 2017 16:01
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I hate curses so much in multiplayer products. The white curse is especially bad.
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Aug 9, 2017 16:03
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Shadow225 posted:I hate curses so much in multiplayer products. The white curse is especially bad. This curse cycle clearly favors the two colors that really, really don't need it. Green and Blue, because of course it does.
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Aug 9, 2017 16:05
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Count Bleck posted:This curse cycle clearly favors the two colors that really, really don't need it. The red curse only costs R and could be quite good in an aggressive deck.
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Aug 9, 2017 16:07
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https://twitter.com/hotcblog/status/895300309425291264
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Aug 9, 2017 16:11
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Shadow225 posted:I hate curses so much in multiplayer products. The white curse is especially bad. Eh, these curses don't seem as bad as previous ones. They're aggressively costed, and you gain a benefit symmetrical to the rest of the table. You can even target yourself for advantage in some corner-cases.
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Aug 9, 2017 16:12
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Count Bleck posted:This curse cycle clearly favors the two colors that really, really don't need it. My problem with curses isn't that the effects are usually bad, it's that they are very bad for any format with more than 2 players. I don't want to give my opponents cards, tokens, or mana. I have only seen one explicitly political card (Cruel Entertainment, the Vows, Curses, etc) played, and it was played in a politically themed deck. Those slots could be used for interesting new cards, reprints, or even mana rocks, sweepers, or decent card advantage.
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Aug 9, 2017 16:17
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New Blood is really interesting because it changes the textbox too, and that's a fairly unique effect. Grab a Precursor Golem, X Banneret, Dragon Broodmother, Eladamri, Heritage Druid, etc. for tribal synergy.
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Aug 9, 2017 16:18
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Shadow225 posted:I hate curses so much in multiplayer products. The white curse is especially bad. They've all been pretty crappy, but at least these are a step in the right direction by not being pure group-huggy poo poo. You always benefit the most, even if others do a bit as well. The Shortest Path posted:New Blood is really interesting because it changes the textbox too, and that's a fairly unique effect. Grab a Precursor Golem, X Banneret, Dragon Broodmother, Eladamri, Heritage Druid, etc. for tribal synergy. You can also use it on your own creature, if that's ever a useful thing to do. I can't think of a reason why you'd want to, but the option is there.
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Aug 9, 2017 16:25
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The Shortest Path posted:New Blood is really interesting because it changes the textbox too, and that's a fairly unique effect. Grab a Precursor Golem, X Banneret, Dragon Broodmother, Eladamri, Heritage Druid, etc. for tribal synergy. Or, grab The Ur-Dragon and make all your vampires 1 cheaper. Yo Mathas' foiling makes him look even more deranged than before 
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Aug 9, 2017 16:26
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New Blood on Atogatog should rename it to Vampirevampire.
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Aug 9, 2017 16:37
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It's like a million judges cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced
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Aug 9, 2017 16:39
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mfcrocker posted:It's like a million judges cried out in terror and were suddenly phased out
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Aug 9, 2017 16:48
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Infinite with archaeomancer and palinchron  EDIT: Never mind, I can't read at all. uninverted fucked around with this message at 00:47 on Aug 10, 2017 |
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Aug 9, 2017 17:19
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mfcrocker posted:It's like a million judges cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced Phasing is much, much cleaner after a rules change. Previously it had a zone change, but IIRC only triggered zone changes when leaving play, not entering. Phasing could totally be brought back as a mechanic in a Standard set, but it won't because it's a ~big scary boogeyman~ to both players and designers who remember how much of a rules headache it used to be. I think the only not directly apparent interaction is what happens to Auras and Equipment attached to permanents that phase out, which this card sidesteps by phasing everything out, which is probably the reason it got the green light to get printed.
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Aug 9, 2017 17:20
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This is my favorite card in the set so far. Bringing back Phasing AND protecting yourself so you can go off and win on your next turn for 3? At instant speed? P. dang fun card.
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Aug 9, 2017 17:21
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Do ETBs trigger when things phase back?
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Aug 9, 2017 17:25
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Tainen posted:Do ETBs trigger when things phase back? mfcrocker posted:It's like a million judges cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced
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Aug 9, 2017 17:25
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Tainen posted:Do ETBs trigger when things phase back? Either ETBs or LTBs, I forget which, did not trigger originally, but the rules were changed to have both trigger several years back E: vvv or the other way around apparently, my mistake vvv Elyv fucked around with this message at 17:31 on Aug 9, 2017 |
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Aug 9, 2017 17:26
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Tainen posted:Do ETBs trigger when things phase back? They're just treated as though they don't exist. Completely ignore them while they're phased out, and then remember that they're there again before you untap next turn. Elyv posted:Either ETBs or LTBs, I forget which, did not trigger originally, but the rules were changed to have both trigger several years back 702.25d The phasing event doesn’t actually cause a permanent to change zones or control, even though it’s treated as though it’s not on the battlefield and not under its controller’s control while it’s phased out. Zone-change triggers don’t trigger when a permanent phases in or out. Counters remain on a permanent while it’s phased out. Effects that check a phased-in permanent’s history won’t treat the phasing event as having caused the permanent to leave or enter the battlefield or its controller’s control.
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Aug 9, 2017 17:29
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Apparently there are some rules changes around phasing coming... https://twitter.com/tabakrules/status/895317535007981568
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Aug 9, 2017 17:32
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Looking forward to C17 not coming out on mtgo for 6 months after regular release because they can't figure out how to make this work.
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Aug 9, 2017 17:33
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uPen posted:Looking forward to C17 not coming out on mtgo for 6 months after regular release because they can't figure out how to make this work. They have phasing and protection from everything already, so it'll be a matter of the card having bugs instead of them just having no idea how to do it.
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Aug 9, 2017 17:35
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What world in this universe are the Kavu from? My friend has been clamoring for them to make a return for like 5+ years
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Aug 9, 2017 17:36
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80s James Hetfield posted:What world in this universe are the Kavu from? My friend has been clamoring for them to make a return for like 5+ years Dominaria. They were in hibernation for forever and then got woken up in Invasion, storywise. Then after apoc they vanished to never been seen again until TSP and then vanished again after that
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Aug 9, 2017 17:42
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Tainen posted:Apparently there are some rules changes around phasing coming... There's two options: 1. Get rid of the indirect phasing. There's no actual reason for Auras and Equipment to phase out with the creature other than that's what they wanted to do with Auras (Equipment didn't exist with phasing, remember) back in Mirage. If a creature phases out, everything falls off. This might be confusing to players because that's what happens when a creature leaves the battlefield, so they might think the creature is leaving the battlefield. 2. They could just let tokens phase out without going poof. Them ceasing to exist was just a carry-over from when it was an actual zone change.
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Aug 9, 2017 17:44
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The Shortest Path posted:The fuckin art 
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Aug 9, 2017 18:07
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https://twitter.com/valimarmtg/status/895331662929698816
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Aug 9, 2017 18:12
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Tainen posted:Apparently there are some rules changes around phasing coming... So much for Sapphire Charm being legacy playable!
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Does New Blood affect the type line? Does it affect the card name? If I steal a Goblin King does it become a Creature - Vampire called Vampire King that gives all other Vampires +1/+1 and mountain walk? Or just the last part? Does "text" just mean the contents of the rules text box?
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Aug 9, 2017 18:48
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Entropic posted:Does New Blood affect the type line? Does it affect the card name? If I steal a Goblin King does it become a Creature - Vampire called Vampire King that gives all other Vampires +1/+1 and mountain walk? Or just the last part? Does "text" just mean the contents of the rules text box? Pretty sure it only applies to the text box, as the type line and name are discrete parts of the card as far as the rules are concerned.
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Aug 9, 2017 18:52
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5/5 flier with kill a man stapled to it would be very solid on its own
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Well there you go https://twitter.com/tabakrules/status/895314692616314881 https://twitter.com/tabakrules/status/895349169593868288 https://twitter.com/tabakrules/status/895349592694243329
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