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Shear Modulus posted:The GA-6 special election was a useful exercise in proving that the Dems would be much better served running literal empty suits like Stooksbury instead of figurative empty suits like Ossoff. Now that I think about it they already seem to be acting on this lesson in the Texas governor race
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zegermans posted:but like who's brother mouzone tho Ellison, duh.
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zegermans posted:but like who's brother mouzone tho Jill Stein
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Lastgirl posted:Jill Stein Ah poo poo, that's the right one.
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Matt Zerella posted:Ellison, duh. lol also, turns out The Wire zegermans is somehow worse than Star Trek zergemans. Keep your garbage opinions to yourself dude.
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Matt Zerella posted:Ellison, duh. oh right that makes sense in multiple ways
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I saw all the bright people, In imposing flocks they landed, And they got what they demanded, And they scratched at the ground. Then they flew, and the field grew as sweetly for the flightless, Who had longing yet despite this, They could hear every sound.
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Main Paineframe posted:they ain't learned a thing hahaha the democrats should be beaten with sacks of feather quills they're supporting progressives who will fight for them? don't they know what they're doing?! why are they playing political games instead of advocating for lives of people*? how dare the peasant filth accost us with their calls for healthcare that covers them? we have political strategy to do. *: wall street financiers, k street lobbyists, suburban republicans
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If "Voted for bush twice" Northarm can support full legal weed than other dems can too lol
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so have there been any DSA folks trying to primary Joe Manchin? Seems like a pretty easy task.
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Main Paineframe posted:they ain't learned a thing 
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zegermans posted:so have there been any DSA folks trying to primary Joe Manchin? Seems like a pretty easy task. I think the DSA is currently struggling with having elected someone from a police union
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zegermans posted:so have there been any DSA folks trying to primary Joe Manchin? Seems like a pretty easy task. Yeah there's one lady who already declared
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gradenko_2000 posted:I think the DSA is currently struggling with having elected someone from a police union Was he a member of the people's front of Judea or the Judean people's front?
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zegermans posted:so have there been any DSA folks trying to primary Joe Manchin? Seems like a pretty easy task. That's not really what they do. They endorse candidates that align with their beliefs. Like El Yateem in Brooklyn. He's not a "DSA folk" but they're mobilizing for him. Also they seem to be focusing more on local and state govt right now. I'm sure if someone cool and good throws their hat in the ring they'll get behind him or her.
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zegermans posted:so have there been any DSA folks trying to primary Joe Manchin? Seems like a pretty easy task. the DSA is not a political party but a cool local lady has already declared against him
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the bitcoin of weed posted:the DSA is not a political party but a cool local lady has already declared against him http://i.imgur.com/OffEJTR.gifv
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I know its a foreign concept to a democrat but they mobilize people! Crazy right?
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Main Paineframe posted:they ain't learned a thing lol gently caress off Reid you're retired
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is manchin still melting down about the primary because that was funny as poo poo
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zegermans posted:Was he a member of the people's front of Judea or the Judean people's front? he decided to hide/downplay his work with them and no one found out until after he was elected so people are mad
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Who is "Stooksbury"?
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I think he was a sham congressional candidate from Texas whose campaign HQ was his u-store shack
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Main Paineframe posted:sure, the Dem won those counties in 2009, 2010 (a massive Republican wave year), 2012, and 2014 (another massive Republican wave year), but the district was totally super competitive. I'm sure that district, which held blue even when Dems elsewhere were losing seats in massive numbers and consists mainly of counties that haven't elected the GOP to their seat in decades, was totally a victory snatched right from the Republicans' grasp again the gop routinely targets this seat, and given the dem party's usual problems in special elections it's a pretty good win to have, especially with a 10 point margin in an open seat. this isn't a takeover so it's not a sign of some democratic wave, but it's good that dems are actually winning these state leg specials since in the past we routinely bled them. performance by year-wise, 2016 was actually much worse for iowa dems than 2014, and the state has arguably undergone a permanent red-leaning realignment as rural america flees to the gop. and anyway, it seems absurd to try and portray a trump +22 district as a democratic stronghold. it just isn't. quote:as for GA-06, the Dems spent record amounts of money and didn't get any more votes than the 2016 candidate that didn't even bother to campaign. it was a huge disaster, and previous Congressional races were very predictive of the result, as the numbers there almost exactly matched those of the last couple elections for that seat - Ossoff got about as many votes as Stooksbury did in 2016, while Handel's vote number was just a bit below Price's 2014 turnout. the only reason that seat was even in play was because the Republicans totally mismanaged the primary, and Ossoff still couldn't swing the win he needed there are you seriously trying to use "number of votes" as a metric? the turnout was dramatically different in those elections. the actual margin is a vastly more interesting and relevant statistic, and in that case ossoff almost matched clinton's performance making it the single most predictive measurement in that race. and in any case, the idea that a race that was within a few points wasn't actually "in play" is really dumb. the outcome was not pre-ordained in the stars. like yes, handel's vote number was just a bit below price in 2014 price, but overall turnout was dramatically higher in 2017 and the dem massively outperformed that year's candidate. yes, ossoff was below the 2016 candidate's vote total but there were also over 100,000k more overall votes in that race. you're mixing and matching election results between midterms and presidential years to try and prove your point, and it just doesn't make sense.
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Venom Snake posted:If "Voted for bush twice" Northarm can support full legal weed than other dems can too lol But what about the Pharmaceutical companies and their profits? 
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punk rebel ecks posted:Who is "Stooksbury"? The Democratic candidate for GA-06 in the actual 2016 election was a mannequin wearing sunglasses named Rodney Stooksbury who did not campaign, raised no money, could not be reached for comment when someone sought him out afterward (the neighbors of his listed address had never heard of him), and received almost exactly as many votes as Jon Ossoff would a year later
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stooksbury is basically a pretty dramatic example of how difficult it is for down ballot campaigns to get attention in a presidential year. he performed about as well as an active campaign would have in that district.
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loquacius posted:The Democratic candidate for GA-06 in the actual 2016 election was a mannequin wearing sunglasses named Rodney Stooksbury who did not campaign, raised no money, could not be reached for comment when someone sought him out afterward (the neighbors of his listed address had never heard of him), and received almost exactly as many votes as Jon Ossoff would a year later This is really telling... What will it take for Democrats to realize that third way isn't the erm... way?
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punk rebel ecks posted:What will it take for Democrats to realize that third way isn't the erm... way? lol it ain't happening
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The Resistance https://twitter.com/aidnmclaughlin/status/894945988137320448
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Matt Zerella posted:GORRRRKAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA [Hungarian Rhapsody intensifies]
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punk rebel ecks posted:This is really telling... As long as the money is rolling in they won't They'll just keep on fiddling with details no one cares about and acting as scandalized as possible at the GOP because surely that'll work this time until the heat death of the universe If the Left wants control over the "left" in this country they're gonna have to actively seize it, like they almost did last year lol I only know Gorka from Chapo context but this was hilarious
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Agean90 posted:[Hungarian Rhapsody intensifies] *dances
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I just love that MSNBC, our liberal saviors, are interviewing literal vampires because it matches the network's godawful foreign policy.
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