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Kilometers Davis posted:I know this is an odd question but is there anything that's like a Maschine but analog and not tied to a computer? Analog in what way? CV outs? Cirklon. Pyramid. Stuff like that.
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Aug 9, 2017 17:44
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It's an odd question because the Maschine is a controller and can't make its own sound.
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Aug 9, 2017 17:59
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Yeah. I guess I don't exactly know what I'm looking for. An analog, natural, "flawed" sounding machine with a focus on the rhythm section? That's the only way I can explain what I want.
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Aug 9, 2017 18:06
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By that description, what about the Maschine made you think you wanted something similar? Generally when you say "analog", you are talking about an actual instrument. The Maschine just plays samples and will make no sounds on its own. What sounds are you looking for? Percussion?
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Aug 9, 2017 18:10
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Anyone try out the new IK Multimedia Syntronik suite?
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Aug 9, 2017 18:15
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I guess it wasn't the best comparison example but something percussion focused. No keyboard. Depth but very accessible and tweakable. I guess I could be looking for some kind of analog drum machine with pads.
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Aug 9, 2017 18:17
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Kilometers Davis posted:I guess it wasn't the best comparison example but something percussion focused. No keyboard. Depth but very accessible and tweakable. I guess I could be looking for some kind of analog drum machine with pads. Admittedly I've never had either so i'm not really certain, but I suspect you're asking for something like an MPC, probably 1000, maybe the newer MPC Live. Other synthgoons probably know better than I though.
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Aug 9, 2017 18:20
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Kilometers Davis posted:Yeah. I guess I don't exactly know what I'm looking for. An analog, natural, "flawed" sounding machine with a focus on the rhythm section? That's the only way I can explain what I want. DSI Tempest sounds like what you're after, but a Rytm might be a better look.
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Aug 9, 2017 18:23
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Kilometers Davis posted:I guess it wasn't the best comparison example but something percussion focused. No keyboard. Depth but very accessible and tweakable. I guess I could be looking for some kind of analog drum machine with pads.
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Aug 9, 2017 18:28
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get a korg ea-1 or es-1 and learn to dub/multitrack
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Aug 9, 2017 18:41
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The only true analogue option is this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FlzATgziuY it's got tubes in it so it's objectively the best sound anyone may ever ask for. The only drawback I can see is that it don't have "Dicklicker-69" or something like that written on it, like most MS boxes. Cockmuncher-CCK. You know. Piss Galaxy GTR.
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Aug 9, 2017 18:51
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dj bobby bieber posted:DSI Tempest sounds like what you're after, but a Rytm might be a better look. Tempest is certainly a flawed machine waka waka waka E: I'd suggest rytm if the thing sampled on it's own. Give up the analog req and cop an mpc1k. Spend the savings on a modded korg volca beats
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Aug 9, 2017 18:53
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Been trying to put more audio stuff up again; also trying to actually get stuff sounding more structured as "songs" rather than "me playing with faders". Happy with how this one turned out. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLmpvPuTzAk though I should really start running this stuff through a better mastering chain. I really gotta bite the bullet and start using this alongside Ableton Live to get more sequence variety. Also I should get a MIDI/CV interface rather than relying on the Beatstep Pro to sorta work as one. Edit: chiming in to the above I love my RYTM but the inability to sample directly from on mk 1 is annoying. Really wish they could make that happen in firmware using the useless audio in jacks, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
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Aug 9, 2017 18:56
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dj bobby bieber posted:DSI Tempest sounds like what you're after, but a Rytm might be a better look. These are good suggestions. Keep in mind that what you are looking for tends to be fairly expensive (both of those are $1500+). MockingQuantum posted:Admittedly I've never had either so i'm not really certain, but I suspect you're asking for something like an MPC, probably 1000, maybe the newer MPC Live. Other synthgoons probably know better than I though. An MPC is not an instrument and doesn't make any sound of its own.
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Aug 9, 2017 18:57
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MrSargent posted:
Uh, what? Any of them can sample and amplify their own internal noise and do weird no input stuff, so you're not even technically right here
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Aug 9, 2017 18:59
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Kilometers Davis posted:Yeah. I guess I don't exactly know what I'm looking for. An analog, natural, "flawed" sounding machine with a focus on the rhythm section? That's the only way I can explain what I want. Analog rytm. they're incredible. I've had mine for 2 months or so and love it. it's pretty much exactly what you're describing, the sequencing on it is great and the sounds are all effortlessly huge. The new one that will be available in 6 weeks or so can sample now too. https://www.elektron.se/analog-rytm-mkii/ if it's too expensive then just save up. i wish i'd got mine sooner (or later, i missed the mk2 announcement by 30 days... and a huge drop in resale price) MK1's are often on sale second hand for around $850 now since the mk2 was announced. that'll probably creep back up towards $1k a bit once mk2 hype & people planning to upgrade eases off. edit: looks like they're already creeping back up to $950 second hand. Saw a couple go for $800 just as the mk2 announcement happened. anyway if you're not afraid of second hand gear it's a great option. cubicle gangster fucked around with this message at 19:08 on Aug 9, 2017 |
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Aug 9, 2017 19:02
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JamesKPolk posted:Uh, what? Sorry, I misspoke. I meant that its a sampler and not the "drum synth" that this guy is looking for.
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Aug 9, 2017 19:04
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dont spend tons of money on new things get a yamaha rx5 or a ry10
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Aug 9, 2017 19:16
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Startyde posted:E: I'd suggest rytm if the thing sampled on it's own. Give up the analog req and cop an mpc1k. Spend the savings on a modded korg volca beats The new one does, apparently!
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Aug 9, 2017 19:20
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nord drum and that midi thing that turns it into a poly synth
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Aug 9, 2017 19:22
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Ok now I think I might be an idiot and confusing things. The MPC does not have audio out so I always thought that meant it doesn't produce its own sound. I wouldn't really consider "sampling internal noise" as producing your own sound but maybe I am wrong.
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Aug 9, 2017 19:32
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Kilometers Davis posted:Yeah. I guess I don't exactly know what I'm looking for. An analog, natural, "flawed" sounding machine with a focus on the rhythm section? That's the only way I can explain what I want. seems like you want a steel drum?
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Aug 9, 2017 19:45
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MrSargent posted:Ok now I think I might be an idiot and confusing things. Hrm...  Are you maybe thinking of one of the semi-recent shite-tier controller-dongle MPCs that needed to be connected to a computer? Anyway, take a gander at the Sequential Circuits Studio 440, OP, for some true vintage (12 bit) analogue (filter) drum computer flawed-but-awesome sequencing power. I'll likely be buried with mine. Alternative suggestion: Yamaha RS7000. Another unit that'll have to pried from my cold, dead fingers.
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Aug 9, 2017 19:52
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Considering I want to keep my analog beat machine under like $500 I think the drumbrute is going to be my best option. Some of the others mentioned look amazing but I waste enough money on gear as is. Anything I should know about the brute before bumping it up to the "poo poo I'm def gonna blow money on soon" list?Clavavisage posted:seems like you want a steel drum? Nailed it
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Aug 9, 2017 19:59
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ynohtna posted:Hrm... Of course, the first MPC1000 I looked at on Google only had MIDI In/Out and USB which is the poo poo-tier I think you are referring to. Ignore me.
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Aug 9, 2017 20:00
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Kilometers Davis posted:Considering I want to keep my analog beat machine under like $500 I think the drumbrute is going to be my best option. Some of the others mentioned look amazing but I waste enough money on gear as is. Anything I should know about the brute before bumping it up to the "poo poo I'm def gonna blow money on soon" list? As someone who recently spent months going down a very similar rabbit hole, the only thing I would recommend in general is definitely do not shackle yourself to the limitation of needing something analog or strictly drum synths. I was very anti-MPC when I started out because I felt like I wanted to craft my own drum sounds rather than "rely" on samples, but nowadays I find I spend too much time loving around with drum synths and not really enjoying it. If you get your hands on a Drumbrute and really enjoy the experience, then great, it's probably what you're looking for. I would say absolutely don't buy one without trying it first. When I borrowed one from a friend it was fun for the first couple hours, then when I got deeper into it I found it wasn't what I was looking for at all.
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Aug 9, 2017 20:10
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There's some major limitation to Drumbrute that I don't quite remember. Can it be that it doesn't have automation/parameter locking or whatever you call it, or am I confusing it with something? Also it sounds unexciting, and there's no cowbell which to some may be a positive, but I like cowbell unironically. The all women trio that performed on one or two of the new Twin Peaks episodes used a Drumbrute. The Arturia logo was right on the screen, or that may have been another *brute, but that girl seemed to be in charge of drums. On the other hand everyone needs a 909/808 something.
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Aug 9, 2017 20:12
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That was a Minibrute on Twin Peaks. I've turned into the kind of person who, when there's a synth on screen in a show, immediately loses the plot until he's figured out what model.
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Aug 9, 2017 20:18
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Get a Rhythm Wolf and a hang drum.
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Aug 9, 2017 20:21
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My Lovely Horse posted:That was a Minibrute on Twin Peaks. I've turned into the kind of person who, when there's a synth on screen in a show, immediately loses the plot until he's figured out what model. Ah, I noticed a synth brute during one of the shots but though maybe they had both. Arturia guys are chuffed about this I'm sure, and well deserved. Yeah, Drumbrute lacks automation. Since even Volcas have it, it seems a big omission, but tweaking a drum machine by hand is also fun. A Volca Beats and Sample combo is another option. Just a Sample is also good, it has a lot of classic drum machine sounds preloaded, and you can load anything onto it. Volca Beats is full on analogue. loga mira fucked around with this message at 20:51 on Aug 9, 2017 |
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Aug 9, 2017 20:47
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loga mira posted:Ah, I noticed a synth brute during one of the shots but though maybe they had both. Arturia guys are chuffed about this I'm sure, and well deserved. That was my gripe about it. I wanted something that would get me away from a computer screen and give me a chance to just throw together beats and grooves. There's lots out there that'll do that, but Drumbrute isn't it. It's great for what it is, but I felt like I'd still be pretty closely tied to a DAW to get much use out of it.
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Aug 9, 2017 20:51
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Did anyone here end up getting a matrixbrute/hearing much about them? They are still very appealing to me but nobody in any synth related fb group, website or here seems to talk about them. I saw a lot of people saying that they were excited to hear about the build quality, then it came out and nothing.
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Aug 9, 2017 20:52
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cubicle gangster posted:Did anyone here end up getting a matrixbrute/hearing much about them? I know of one person who has it and he absolutely loves it. I know of five or six that got to try it through work/a friend's studio/a dealer connection and they all kind of said "I get the appeal but it's huge and I can't see myself using it regularly." I think it's the kind of thing that if you really really want it, you'd probably find a lot of reasons to use it. It's by no means a must-have synth. I will have one some day, dammit Edit: One of the people I talked to said he wasn't wild on it in general, given that it's a gigantic MockingQuantum fucked around with this message at 21:16 on Aug 9, 2017 |
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Aug 9, 2017 21:11
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you're just going to end up buying 3 more synths this year don't get too hung up on it
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Aug 9, 2017 21:35
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Oldstench posted:Get a Rhythm Wolf and a hang drum. TomCat was the drum machine, with Toms where Rhythm Wolf had
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Aug 9, 2017 21:57
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One tone is just about what they have
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Aug 9, 2017 22:03
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magiccarpet posted:you're just going to end up buying 3 more synths this year don't get too hung up on it Amazingly, I'm downsizing. No idea how.
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Aug 9, 2017 22:05
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MockingQuantum posted:Amazingly, I'm downsizing. No idea how. Like, you are only buying smaller footprint gear? Otherwise I don't understand.
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Aug 9, 2017 23:49
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I think I'm going to grab a Volca Beats. It's cheap, sounds good, looks very fun and is ~~analog~~. Nothing else comes close pricewise and I like the small footprint a lot. I wish it was a little more knobby but what can ya do.
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magiccarpet posted:you're just going to end up buying 3 more synths this year don't get too hung up on it yeop (new thread title pls)
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