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System Metternich posted:
Marx considered enclosure a good thing, as it was a necessary stage in the political-economic dialectic and the road to socialism
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cinci zoo sniper posted:It's pretty difficult, given the size of Texas: Texas ain't no small country y'all!
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Aug 9, 2017 04:10
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oldswitcheroo posted:Texas ain't no small country y'all! Not small, and not a country. 
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Aug 9, 2017 07:18
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steinrokkan posted:Pls don't steal signature jokes from 100% clean millenial comedian Dan Nainan. lmao
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Aug 9, 2017 08:54
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System Metternich posted:
Very interesting stuff, thank you
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Aug 9, 2017 08:59
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Tweezer Reprise posted:Not small, and not a country. them's fightin' words, boy
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Aug 9, 2017 09:15
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SaltyJesus posted:them's fightin' words, boy I thought "not small and went to war twice" were fightin' words around your parts
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Take the plunge! Okay! posted:I thought "not small and went to war twice" were fightin' words around your parts haha the "not small" version of these here parts is fightin' words alright
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Aug 9, 2017 11:13
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It's kinda of amazing how many real irl people genuinely think Texas is all sweltering desert (or all sweltering swamp, occasionally.) It's all sweltering at least some of the time, that much is correct.
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Aug 9, 2017 16:52
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Tweezer Reprise posted:Not small, and not a country. It was its own country which is more than most other states can say 
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Aug 9, 2017 17:23
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No Safe Word posted:It was its own country which is more than most other states can say I mean, the Republic of Vermont lasted 14 years, Texas Republic only lasted 9 years. Plus all the 13 colonies (which did not include Vermont)were effectively independent nations for most of the Revolutionary war. It makes stuff like the California Republic and its 45 day rule over Sonoma County just look like child's play though.
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:It's kinda of amazing how many real irl people genuinely think Texas is all sweltering desert (or all sweltering swamp, occasionally.) it's a sweltering cultural desert, is that close enough?
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Aug 9, 2017 17:53
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No Safe Word posted:It was its own country which is more than most other states can say Vermont was independent for longer.
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Aug 9, 2017 18:22
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Tree Goat posted:it's a sweltering cultural desert, is that close enough? Buddy Holly you piece of poo poo King of the Hill, maybe
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Aug 9, 2017 21:03
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Buddy Holly you piece of poo poo if you gave me a choice between "dying in a plane crash" or "living in lubbock," i'd smash that flight stick down so hard they'd think i was doing a 9/11 against the mole people
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Aug 9, 2017 21:32
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Tree Goat posted:if you gave me a choice between "dying in a plane crash" or "living in lubbock," i'd smash that flight stick down so hard they'd think i was doing a 9/11 against the mole people Do as you CFIT.
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Aug 9, 2017 23:02
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Aug 9, 2017 23:20
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fishmech posted:I mean, the Republic of Vermont lasted 14 years, Texas Republic only lasted 9 years. Plus all the 13 colonies (which did not include Vermont)were effectively independent nations for most of the Revolutionary war. All of the states that became the Confederacy first declared themselves independent countries upon secession. Republic of Alabama (from January 11 to February 4) Republic of Arkansas (from May 6 to May 18) Republic of Florida (from January 10 to February 4) Republic of Louisiana (from January 26 to February 4) Republic of Mississippi (from January 9 to February 8) North Carolina (from May 20 to May 21) Republic of South Carolina (from Dec 26 to February 8) Republic of Texas (from February 1 to March 2) Republic of Virginia (from April 17 to May 7)
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To my knowledge, none of the Confederate states, nor the Republic of Vermont (please correct me if I'm wrong), ever gained recognition from any foreign governments.
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Aug 9, 2017 23:37
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dublish posted:To my knowledge, none of the Confederate states, nor the Republic of Vermont (please correct me if I'm wrong), ever gained recognition from any foreign governments. Vermont was treated as not officially part of the US for those 14 years, although both New Hampshire and New York had claims to its territory, they did not have any effective control. The Vermonters also spent time negotiating with the British government in Quebec for admittance back into British control after initial rejection from joining the Union (because of New York complaints that they already owned all the land). So that's recognition from two governments foreign to it. Additionally, Vermont sent permanent envoys to the US, and had attempted to do some negotiations with European powers. In general, contact between the US and the various states/colonies before they joined the Articles of Confederation was conducted on the basis of the colony/state/whatever not being a part of the British domain anymore and not being part of the US yet, and being self-governing - so a foreign government. Vermont was under the same basis, only its joining took so long that it actually joined under the Constitution instead. In all this time though, the Vermonters never really wanted to be independent, they would have preferred to join up with the rest on a normal pace. It's just all the land conflicts prevented that.
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No Safe Word posted:It was its own country which is more than most other states can say Texas is as much of a country as Salzburg is, then.
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Tree Goat posted:if you gave me a choice between "dying in a plane crash" or "living in lubbock," i'd smash that flight stick down so hard they'd think i was doing a 9/11 against the mole people Same here and I was born in lubbock
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Aug 10, 2017 04:50
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Tweezer Reprise posted:Texas is as much of a country as Salzburg is, then.
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Aug 10, 2017 10:06
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When has anyone ever claimed that Mozart was German?
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Aug 10, 2017 11:01
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German people have. They are wrong, but so are the people claiming he's Austrian. Austrians have more claim to Tesla.
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Aug 10, 2017 11:03
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cebrail posted:When has anyone ever claimed that Mozart was German? There's literally a wikipedia article about it since 2013.
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Aug 10, 2017 11:04
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Mozart, like all Austrians, was a German.
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Aug 10, 2017 11:07
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Mozart, like all Austrians, was a German.
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Aug 10, 2017 11:16
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Unreal_One posted:There's literally a wikipedia article about it since 2013. Yes, and it's dumb. And, of course, only in the english wikipedia. But at least it has a map. 
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Aug 10, 2017 11:18
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Mozart, like all Austrians, was a German.
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Aug 10, 2017 11:36
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What's the next step in this bizarre campaign of revisionism, claiming that the dastardly Prussian is German??Cat Mattress posted:Do as you CFIT. Nice!
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Aug 10, 2017 14:17
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Germany isn't a real country. It's just Eastern Frenchmen with delusions of grandeur.
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Aug 10, 2017 14:34
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A miserable little pile of bishoprics.
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Aug 10, 2017 14:37
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Guavanaut posted:A miserable little pile of bishoprics. More like bishop pricks LMAO
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Aug 10, 2017 14:40
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Guavanaut posted:A miserable little pile of bishoprics. It's so beautiful 
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Aug 10, 2017 14:50
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The Holy Roman Empire. Questionably holy, Roman, or an empire, but unquestionably a clusterfuck.
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Aug 10, 2017 15:32
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System Metternich posted:It's so beautiful 
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frankenfreak posted:All those holdings outside of their diocese borders... Sad that they ignored all the other ecclesiastical holdings by the various abbeys, it would have "enlivened" the whole shebang even more. But we mustn't forget that all these tiny ecclesiastical states had the reputation of being super chill places to live in ("Unter'm Krummstab ist's gut leben", "You live well beneath the crozier") where the prince-bishops were by design unable to rule absolutely and were bound by their spiritual vows to care for the poor instead; also the peasants living there got to enjoy way more holidays than elsewhere and had to work much less for their lieges (if they even had any). There are a also lot of accounts by Protestant writers and travellers appalled by all the poor people and beggars they saw in the ecclesiastical territories who in many cases had come from far away to settle here - but in my eyes this is more a sign that the bishops, abbots and abbesses were the only ones to actually tend to them instead of simply throwing them out of the country.
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System Metternich posted:Sad that they ignored all the other ecclesiastical holdings by the various abbeys, it would have "enlivened" the whole shebang even more. But we mustn't forget that all these tiny ecclesiastical states had the reputation of being super chill places to live in ("Unter'm Krummstab ist's gut leben", "You live well beneath the crozier") where the prince-bishops were by design unable to rule absolutely and were bound by their spiritual vows to care for the poor instead; also the peasants living there got to enjoy way more holidays than elsewhere and had to work much less for their lieges (if they even had any). There are a also lot of accounts by Protestant writers and travellers appalled by all the poor people and beggars they saw in the ecclesiastical territories who in many cases had come from far away to settle here - but in my eyes this is more a sign that the bishops, abbots and abbesses were the only ones to actually tend to them instead of simply throwing them out of the country.
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Inescapable Duck posted:The Holy Roman Empire. Questionably holy, Roman, or an empire, but unquestionably a clusterfuck. I've never understood the "neither holy, roman or empire". Like, what are the objective criteria to pass judgment on those categories.
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