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Concerned Citizen
Jul 22, 2007
Ramrod XTreme

Main Paineframe posted:

no. people were mad at the centrist party officials who used naral's complaints as an excuse to sink a progressive. the same party officials who furiously defended Tim Kaine's abortion record and told pro-choice groups to suck it up in the name of electability were suddenly drawing a line in the sand in abortion, and throwing Mello under the bus even though they'd made him the centerpiece of their #unity campaign just a day or two before

well first, mello was a centrist state legislator, not a progressive. but i don't really think party officials were responsible for sinking him, it was 3rd party liberal groups that created the circular omaha firing squad. perez, of course, was weak and made some asinine statement about the party never supporting pro-life candidates that he had absolutely no power at all to enforce. naral was totally fine with all of this as they really did not care who won the omaha mayoral race, but got a ton of free press and issue elevation out of the whole kerfuffle.

i don't dispute that some randos on twitter and poo poo took to deciding that mello was on the "wrong team" because bernie endorsed him and started using it as a way to attack sanders, but i don't really think that was the significant factor. i think it just took a lot of momentum out of his campaign.

anyway at some point you either are for the party doing any sort of litmus tests on candidates they support, or you're against it. i personally think it's a bad thing that has the potential to backfire - let the people of a district decide their candidate, some national group doesn't need to come in and tell people the candidate they like isn't good enough. i think they do that too often as it is, particularly the ia-sen race was galling to me when the dscc intervened against hogg and then proceeded to abandon their chosen candidate after they won the primary. if you think the party ought to be doing these litmus tests, then i don't think you should have a problem with naral et al purposefully sinking mello - in fact you should want more of that sort of thing in an effort to purge centrists from the party.

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Rand alPaul
Feb 3, 2010

by Nyc_Tattoo
There are a lot of Bad Dems on twitter and facebook shouting BUT HER EMAILS while posting pictures of nuclear bombs.

These same morons were applauding the Russian sanctions bill last week.

Main Paineframe
Oct 27, 2010

Concerned Citizen posted:

well first, mello was a centrist state legislator, not a progressive. but i don't really think party officials were responsible for sinking him, it was 3rd party liberal groups that created the circular omaha firing squad. perez, of course, was weak and made some asinine statement about the party never supporting pro-life candidates that he had absolutely no power at all to enforce. naral was totally fine with all of this as they really did not care who won the omaha mayoral race, but got a ton of free press and issue elevation out of the whole kerfuffle.

outside groups dont have the power to sink candidates

when progressives opposed DNC-backed candidates, the DNC told them to get hosed, criticized them for "political games", and demanded that they not endorse the candidate's competitors

when other groups opposed progressive-backed candidates, which Mello absolutely was, the DNC immediately put out a statement saying that they would never support that candidate

the thing is, there's always interest groups and single-issue voters pushing for things. sometimes the Dems bend, sometimes they tell the group to go die in a corner. and it's awful funny how it always seems to end up going against progressives. economically-progressive groups always seem to be the ones that the Dems just can't ever listen to

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006


oh wow at this rate y'all might win a seat at some point

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


zegermans posted:

oh wow at this rate y'all might win a seat at some point

:yeah:

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


Also congrats to this dude

https://twitter.com/TheDLCC/status/895120663064793090

Main Paineframe
Oct 27, 2010
lmao I found the Dems young voters outreach program

https://millennialvoicesinamerica.com

hope you're looking forward to decades of GOP domination

KomradeX
Oct 29, 2011

zegermans posted:

oh wow at this rate y'all might win a seat at some point

How many seats in government have the democrats lost over the last 8 years?

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

zegermans posted:

oh wow at this rate y'all might win a seat at some point

hey dude, gently caress you.

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


KomradeX posted:

How many seats in government have the democrats lost over the last 8 years?

lmao at taking anything zegs posts itt seriously

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

KomradeX posted:

How many seats in government have the democrats lost over the last 8 years?

I mean they theoretically had to win them first to lose them, maybe get past step 1 first

Serf
May 5, 2011


stop taking the bait

SHY NUDIST GRRL
Feb 15, 2011

Communism will help more white people than anyone else. Any equal measures unfairly provide less to minority populations just because there's less of them. Democracy is truly the tyranny of the mob.

zegermans posted:

oh wow at this rate y'all might win a seat at some point

It'll be a real upset for the party I know

UHD
Nov 11, 2006


Serf posted:

stop taking the bait

lol

KomradeX
Oct 29, 2011

zegermans posted:

I mean they theoretically had to win them first to lose them, maybe get past step 1 first

Now that doesn't Kwan poo poo if they didn't do anything with them in the first place. Over the past 8 years you've been clowned on by right wing jokes and the best you can do is go *heh least we used to win*

Your gimmick sucks and you should go back to real posting

GOOD TIMES ON METH
Mar 17, 2006

Fun Shoe
Millennial Voices in America is not your parents' political action committee.

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

KomradeX posted:

Now that doesn't Kwan poo poo if they didn't do anything with them in the first place. Over the past 8 years you've been clowned on by right wing jokes and the best you can do is go *heh least we used to win*

Your gimmick sucks and you should go back to real posting

I would like to know more about Kwan poo poo as Asian figure skating scat porn happens to be my fetish.

Gene Hackman Fan
Dec 27, 2002

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

GOOD TIMES ON METH posted:

Millennial Voices in America is not your parents' political action committee.

it's your lame tryhard youth pastor's political action committee

GOOD TIMES ON METH
Mar 17, 2006

Fun Shoe

zegermans posted:

I would like to know more about Kwan poo poo as Asian figure skating scat porn happens to be my fetish.

Stop posting

Serf
May 5, 2011


KomradeX posted:

Now that doesn't Kwan poo poo if they didn't do anything with them in the first place. Over the past 8 years you've been clowned on by right wing jokes and the best you can do is go *heh least we used to win*

Your gimmick sucks and you should go back to real posting

it helps if you don't engage

SHY NUDIST GRRL
Feb 15, 2011

Communism will help more white people than anyone else. Any equal measures unfairly provide less to minority populations just because there's less of them. Democracy is truly the tyranny of the mob.

My parents don't have a pac, pacs are younger than me

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006


nah

ThndrShk2k
Nov 3, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo
Bread Liar
We all know the fidget spinner PAC is gonna be huge

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Main Paineframe posted:

lmao I found the Dems young voters outreach program

https://millennialvoicesinamerica.com

hope you're looking forward to decades of GOP domination

the world millenials is so cringe worthy...

I lolled how my work had series of articles acting like each age group acts like a massive hive mind,

punk rebel ecks
Dec 11, 2010

A shitty post? This calls for a dance of deduction.

Is he...good?

Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012

ThndrShk2k posted:

We all know the fidget spinner PAC is gonna be huge

dab pac

ThndrShk2k
Nov 3, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo
Bread Liar
http://peoplespolicyproject.org/2017/08/09/massive-rise-of-top-incomes-is-mostly-driven-by-capital/

Good article

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008



http://ktvo.com/news/local/house-82-candidates-explain-their-platform

base of this id say he's alright.

Rand alPaul
Feb 3, 2010

by Nyc_Tattoo

Main Paineframe posted:

lmao I found the Dems young voters outreach program

https://millennialvoicesinamerica.com

hope you're looking forward to decades of GOP domination

Haha what the gently caress is this? I can't even watch the video.

GOOD TIMES ON METH
Mar 17, 2006

Fun Shoe
Try downloading the Millennial Voices in America PAC App on your favorite iOS or Android device

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



GOOD TIMES ON METH posted:

Try downloading the Millennial Voices in America PAC App on your favorite iOS or Android device

is this boyko's newest hustle

Feldegast42
Oct 29, 2011

COMMENCE THE RITE OF SHITPOSTING

Them Millennials these days with their Bernard Sanders and their craft beers and their interwebs and their wild sex orgies that I never get invited to and their wokeness

Iron Twinkie
Apr 20, 2001

BOOP

gradenko_2000 posted:

I thought it was sort of excessive to call it a cult of personality, but

https://twitter.com/joeprince___/status/895166374787633153

If you ask questions or want change you are a racist. There's no room for a better world down in the #KHole.

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007

zegermans posted:

I mean they theoretically had to win them first to lose them, maybe get past step 1 first

So you mean, it is actually the dems who threw the seats? :thunk:

UHD
Nov 11, 2006


khive is probably the dumbest thing I've heard all year that isn't from trump's doughy mouth

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007
dangerous donald

The Nastier Nate
May 22, 2005

All aboard the corona bus!

HONK! HONK!


Yams Fan
#khive sounds like a thing where old rich white dudes pay "millienial consultants"to meme their annoitned candidates.

Who the gently caress is gonna get excited about a first term senator that's not running for president

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

UHD posted:

khive is probably the dumbest thing I've heard all year that isn't from trump's doughy mouth

Agreed but otoh, "when they go low, kick 'em in the face" is the kind of rhetoric I can get behind.

Wraith of J.O.I.
Jan 25, 2012


Iron Twinkie posted:

If you ask questions or want change you are a racist. There's no room for a better world down in the #KHole.

Every cretin who has spread this meme needs to reckon with how it uses "#KHole," a rape culture and homophobic term popular among dudebros.

@SenSanders when will you denounce this?

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MizPiz
May 29, 2013

by Athanatos

The Nastier Nate posted:

#khive sounds like a thing where old rich white dudes pay "millienial consultants"to meme their annoitned candidates.

Who the gently caress is gonna get excited about a first term senator that's not running for president

You know how Roman Emporers made a big show about how "they don't want power, but the people are demanding that they become the new leader?" The Dems want nothing more than to bring that back.

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