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Quick question, that may have come up before. TLT and FCS? Do I get a TL every time I roll the dice? (Also, same thing but cluster missiles)
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You used to before last summer's FAQ. Now each dice roll is just part of the larger single attack. You get the target lock after you complete the whole (double) attack.
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So who's all playing at Gencon? I'll be in the Friday tournament.
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Slandible posted:So who's all playing at Gencon? I'll be in the Friday tournament. I'll be at the Friday Tournament too. I don't expect to make it to the second day, I just want to say I did it once. Speaking of which, is FFG still doing that Chuck-E-Cheese thing where you get tickets throughout the day and trade them in for erasures and finger puppets (alt art cards and tokens) at the end of the day?
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Yep, I'm Friday X-Wing as well at Gencon. Going to lose really hard at Imperial Assault Thursday as well, and probably Destiny on Saturday if anybody is doing those. Oh! Come find me on Saturday and I'll have the Krayt promos to hand out (Hot Copilot, Palpatine Shuttle, Fenn Rau, and some others). Should be the in black/white Carolina Krayts shirt, but if it happens to not be me they'll either have some for you or just point you to me. Still no idea what to play. Don't know if I can survive 7 rounds of biggs/jess/lowkjdlfhgdsfkjg/rex
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Bring 3+ PS5+ ships with assault missiles. If you can also get ruthlessness, do it. Your target is the Wookiee; bonus damage from Ruthlessness goes to Biggs unless you somehow miss one of the missiles. Be sure to kill Rex. You'll lose to everything that is not that Biggs list, but you'll roll those fuckers. If all three hit Rex is dead and everything else is one or two shots from dead too. If you had ruthlessness, Biggs is dead too.
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gently caress You, Biggs (96 points) (96) Captain Jonus (30) - TIE Bomber Ruthlessness (3), Assault Missiles (5), Guidance Chips (0) Gamma Squadron Veteran (27) - TIE Bomber Ruthlessness (3), Assault Missiles (5), Guidance Chips (0) Gamma Squadron Veteran (27) - TIE Bomber Ruthlessness (3), Assault Missiles (5), Guidance Chips (0) Academy Pilot (12) - TIE Fighter Block with the TIE. Nuke the Wookiee with the others. Win on the first round of shooting; turns two and three are cleanup.
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ConfusedUs posted:Bring 3+ PS5+ ships with assault missiles. If you can also get ruthlessness, do it. Your target is the Wookiee; bonus damage from Ruthlessness goes to Biggs unless you somehow miss one of the missiles. Be sure to kill Rex. Oh, no, I mean I don't think I can survive the boredom of playing WITH it for 7 rounds! And, I think this might be too all in. If I see three Gammas with ruthlessness or similar combos, there's nothing forcing me to deploy everything together - should you just dumpster the bombers with their single assault missile by just deploying separately?
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Aug 10, 2017 02:56
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Deploy separately and you lose every single benefit that list has. The other guy will just kill your ships one at a time, four on one each time.
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ConfusedUs posted:Deploy separately and you lose every single benefit that list has. I mean, I don't think three bombers that have a single assault missile stand a chance against your standard fair ship rebel deployed just outside range 1 of each other. Sure, one ship dies (presumably rex or biggs), but then the bombs are just straight dead weight against ships that aren't. I'm much more afraid of a single /D Vessery with ruthlessness sprinkled in than something as all in as the bomber swarm - especially because something like the bomber swarm is really only a risk during rounds 1-2 of swiss?
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Aug 10, 2017 03:30
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im not going to gencon because store champs drained my nerd fund. mail me a hot cop?
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Brunas posted:I mean, I don't think three bombers that have a single assault missile stand a chance against your standard fair ship rebel deployed just outside range 1 of each other. Sure, one ship dies (presumably rex or biggs), but then the bombs are just straight dead weight against ships that aren't. In theory, 2 TIEs are a perfect match for an X-Wing. That's the starter scenario, after all, and I've found it to be quite balanced. Three bombers and a TIE can take out any ship in that list, on its own. Especially when three of them can throw a heavily-modified four-dice attack. And it would be all four of them against 1 or 2 of the rebel ships at any given time, if they were spaced out enough to avoid assault missile/ruthlessness shenanigans.
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I like this version which drops the blocker for Cruise Missiles so you can still alpha strike against non-FairShip lists. Anti-Biggs Tech (99) Gamma Squadron Veteran (32) - TIE Bomber Ruthlessness (3), Assault Missiles (5), Cruise Missiles (3), Extra Munitions (2), Guidance Chips (0) Captain Jonus (35) - TIE Bomber Ruthlessness (3), Assault Missiles (5), Cruise Missiles (3), Extra Munitions (2), Guidance Chips (0) Gamma Squadron Veteran (32) - TIE Bomber Ruthlessness (3), Assault Missiles (5), Cruise Missiles (3), Extra Munitions (2), Guidance Chips (0)
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That Bernie Sanders* list is annoying as hell. I don't think I have ever seen it flat out win or lose; it just goes to time almost every round. I mean, if someone jousts it, yeah, their probably going to lose becaue of so many red dice. But no one does that...right? *I hate the name Fair Ship Rebels, it makes no sense. I always call it Bernie Sanders because 1) It redistributes everything, and 2) people REALLY into 'proper' naming of lists can't handle it when you use the 'wrong' name.
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enigmahfc posted:That Bernie Sanders* list is annoying as hell. I don't think I have ever seen it flat out win or lose; it just goes to time almost every round. I mean, if someone jousts it, yeah, their probably going to lose becaue of so many red dice. But no one does that...right?
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So this looks kinda interesting. Looking forwards to following it's development also, side note, hopefully this Saturday will be teaching my gf how to play. I can't find my starter set thing, so basic match is two academies vs one rookie, and then game two is basic luke vs mithel and backstabber right?
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Talas posted:According to the official forums, the four TIE Bombers list with Unguided and Seismics won against that list at least twice. Yes. From a local guy about that tournament: quote:4 out of the 12 Imperial players made top 8. The final was against four ship rebels. Biggs ate 1 damage from all 3 bombs, and a single Seismic did 3 total damage in a turn. He essentially was able to joust with the bombers, poop out some bombs and then swing a 5K to get behind the ships. With the Target Locks and unguided rockets, he was able to shoot at not-Biggs whenever he felt like it He lost Wampa and a Bomber early, pretty much to the joust. Then his remaining 3 bombers made it all the way to the end, killing Rex next. Then killed Lowhhrick. Then Biggs. Then Jess. bunnyofdoom posted:So this looks kinda interesting. Looking forwards to following it's development This also looks interesting to me. I have been getting into some machine learning training at work, and I have thought it would be really cool to teach a bot to play X-Wing. With a platform like this, I think you could have bot vs. bot play hundreds of games in a short period of time and have them get pretty smart. Seems like it would be great training.
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Talas posted:According to the official forums, the four TIE Bombers list with Unguided and Seismics won against that list at least twice. I was meaning more as to whenever I have personally seen or played against it; I barely follow whatever happens at other locations/regions. Although, good to hear that Bombers brought it; I love it when an underused ship starts making waves.
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canyoneer posted:Yes. With the Target Locks and unguided rockets, he was able to shoot at not-Biggs whenever he felt like it
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official forums posted:I am just looking for Thrawn Crew, but the problem I see with him as a crew is what would his ability be? He is a tactical genius that studies his opponent and is able to accurately predict his next move and plan for it in advance. That being said his ability would have to be something like this:
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canyonero posted:Why is that? Unguided Rockets requirement is a Focus. Shouldn't that force them to have to shoot at Biggs? You're right, I was thinking of Synced Turret   , Intelligence Agent with no range restriction, and effectively allowing you to change all your dials after you see it.It might be balanced at 3 crew slots and 40 squad points canyoneer fucked around with this message at 21:43 on Aug 10, 2017 |
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STUPID LIST 98 points PILOTS Captain Nym (40) Scurrg H-6 Bomber (30), Veteran Instincts (1), Synced Turret (4), Bomblet Generator (3), Havoc (0), Fire-Control System (2), “Genius” (0) Constable Zuvio (29) Quadjumper (19), Cad Bane (2), Bomblet Generator (3), Pattern Analyzer (2), Veteran Instincts (1), Spacetug Tractor Array (2), Proximity Mines (3) Sunny Bounder (12) M3-A “Scyk” Interceptor (14), “Light Scyk” Interceptor (-2) Inaldra (17) M3-A “Scyk” Interceptor (15), Trick Shot (0), Pulsed Ray Shield (2) This is real dumb, but I am going to enjoy trying it.
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Bomblet generator is unique, amigo
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Ah. Well then. Hm, what should I replace it with then? (The list builder I used said it wasn't).
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This is fun, played a couple of games so far and it's working well. excited for more cards and ships
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League night report: tried using a fully-kitted out Kanan build with Kyle in the HWK: Kanan Jarrus (38) Accuracy Corrector (3) Autoblaster Turret (2) Recon Specialist (3) Rey (2) Tactical Jammer (1) Ghost (0) "Zeb" Orrelios (18) Phantom (0) Kyle Katarn (21) Adaptability (0) Twin Laser Turret (6) Recon Specialist (3) Moldy Crow (3) Total: 100 [url=https://geordanr.github.io/xwing/?f=Rebel%20Alliance&d=v4!s!156:107,120,-1,-1,38,201:25:14:;162:-1,-1:26:-1:;47:170,135,38  -1:&sn=*Kanan%20Zeb%20Kyle%20(TL)&obs=]View in Yet Another Squad Builder[/url]My reasoning was "if Kanan can get 3 Focus when he needs them, why not 4?" I was flying against Scum Nym with two Mist Hunters. So I had them fly around, building up ridiculous amounts of Focus tokens. Unfortunately, I ran over an asteroid with Kanan and Kyle got left behind, beyond the protective field of the TacJammer. He got blown to hell, and there went all 8 of his Focus tokens. Then I had Kanan K turn for more jousting, but he got hit with a torpedo for a ridiculous amount of damage, and then my opponent scored The Dream: two Direct Hits in a row. Completely trashed Kanan, and I completely forgot to deploy the Phantom afterwards, but who cares. Zeb probably wouldn't have survived anyways. Second game I decided No More Mister Nice Guy, and went with my meanest build: Kanan Jarrus (38) Reinforced Deflectors (3) Twin Laser Turret (6) Recon Specialist (3) Rey (2) Tactical Jammer (1) Ghost (0) "Zeb" Orrelios (18) Phantom (0) Lowhhrick (28) Selflessness (1) Total: 100 View in Yet Another Squad Builder Flew against a guy with Guri and Emon. Game ended after 8 turns. Completely wiped him out, took only 4 shields off of Kanan. I love the Gunship and its ridiculously wide firing arc. Also the Reinforced Deflectors are really nice to have, almost like a Big Ship version of R4-D6. IronSaber fucked around with this message at 08:35 on Aug 11, 2017 |
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oh yes oh god yes form the head FORM THE HEAD unghhhh...
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bunnyofdoom posted:STUPID LIST So I modified it, for extra giggles MAKE THE QUADJUMPER GREAT AGAIN 99 points PILOTS Cartel Spacer (12) M3-A “Scyk” Interceptor (14), “Light Scyk” Interceptor (-2) Sunny Bounder (12) M3-A “Scyk” Interceptor (14), “Light Scyk” Interceptor (-2) Captain Nym (46) Scurrg H-6 Bomber (30), Veteran Instincts (1), Extra Munitions (2), Synced Turret (4), Thermal Detonators (3), Conner Net (4), Havoc (0), Fire-Control System (2), “Genius” (0) Constable Zuvio (29) Quadjumper (19), Cad Bane (2), Bomblet Generator (3), Pattern Analyzer (2), Veteran Instincts (1), Spacetug Tractor Array (2), (I feel like I should replace the synced turret with something else tbh) bunnyofdoom fucked around with this message at 17:09 on Aug 11, 2017 |
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Can another ship that doesn't have a target lock ability use Shara Beys target lock to reroll? For example a wookie liberator is within range 1 to 2 of Shara. Instead of using the wookie liberators target lock (which he never got since he can't target lock), he wouldn't be able to use Shara's?
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You don't have to have the Target Lock action to be granted a target lock, so it seems like the answer might be yes
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lazerus06 posted:Can another ship that doesn't have a target lock ability use Shara Beys target lock to reroll? Yes, they can. Ships without the target lock action can still get target locks via other means (fire control system, thread tracers, etc). They can still spend those locks. Shara lets others treat her lock tokens as if they were their own, meaning they can spend them.
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I'm going to say no, just to be different, even though it's the wrong answer. 
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Reminds me of an argument we had on a local group about how Targeting Synchronizer works with Omega Leader (spoiler, it doesn't) Omega Leader is right next to a Starkiller Base Pilot in an Upsilon with Weapons Engineer and Targeting Synchronizer. On the other side is Luke Skywalker and Biggs. Omega Leader has a lock on Biggs, Starkiller Base Pilot has a lock on Biggs and Luke. Omega Leader's ability reads "Enemy ships that you have locked cannot modify any dice when attacking you or defending against your attacks." Targeting Synchronizer reads "When a friendly ship at Range 1-2 is attacking a ship you have locked, the friendly ship treats the "Attack (target lock): header as "Attack:." If a game effect instructs that ship to spend a target lock, it may spend your target lock instead." If Omega Leader is attacking Biggs, Omega Leader can spend the Starkiller Base Pilot's target lock to reroll Omega Leader's attack dice. Maintaining Omega Leader's lock on Biggs means that Biggs cannot modify his defense dice with a focus. If Omega Leader was attacking Luke, whether or not Omega Leader chooses to spend Starkiller Base Pilot's target lock on Luke, Luke can still modify his own defense dice. Similarly, if Luke was shooting back at Omega Leader, he could still modify his own attack dice. Some people argued wrongly and passionately that in that case, nobody may mod when attacking or defending against O Leader. But Omega Leader only ever has one ship locked in this scenario (Biggs), even though Omega Leader can spend his buddy's target lock for a reroll on either ship, he only ever had Biggs locked.
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canyoneer posted:Reminds me of an argument we had on a local group about how Targeting Synchronizer works with Omega Leader (spoiler, it doesn't) Those people are dumb. Targ Synchronizer says "spend". You don't spend a lock for OL's ability. Ergo Targ Synchronizer doesn't work.
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$30 star wars product coming out for Force Friday. Hopefully it's a new core set with decent X-Wings 
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alg posted:$30 star wars product coming out for Force Friday. Hopefully it's a new core set with decent X-Wings Oh?
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alg posted:$30 star wars product coming out for Force Friday. Hopefully it's a new core set with decent X-Wings Anything linking it to X-Wing? FFG has a good amount of Star Wars games.
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My FLGS owner wouldn't spill any details.
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Core set type things are $40, its prob a big ship.
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banned from Starbucks posted:Core set type things are $40, its prob a big ship. So...resistance transport or bomber?
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Good bet although the trailer makes it look massive
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