Alt-Right: HA-HA-HA-HAGHOOCH

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MizPiz: May 29, 2013; by Athanatos

Darkman Fanpage posted:

tbf i always saw grs as the trap it was. some saw it as sjw run amok. i saw it as a hook with a wriggly worm on it.

But it's just stuck their... squirming helplessly... on that shiny hook...

*Posts screed on why you're a racist for not supporting Gulluh-centered imperialism*

# ? Aug 10, 2017 19:06

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# ? May 30, 2024 14:11

fool of sound: Oct 10, 2012

in which ostensible leftists repeat right wing memes about how black people just pull the race card all the time

# ? Aug 10, 2017 19:11

Arcteryx Anarchist: Sep 15, 2007; Fun Shoe

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Identity politics reached its apotheosis within the last year through the Clinton campaign, and now the premature push to make Kamala Harris the 2020 nominee. It's a fundamentally liberal political formulation that is ironically shaped as a reaction to white supremacy and heteronormativity, that subsumes the individual within a group identity that confers a social privilege within its own in-group politics. It claims to value diversity, but flattens it within the narrow confines of pre-defined stereotypes. Which in the end, causes the symbolic to overtake the real.

The most important thing about Hillary Clinton was that she was a woman, and all of the symbolic values that carried. All misgivings about her past record of stated policies and ideology were dismissed as mere misogynies.

And Kamala Harris is all of those contradictory and self-defeating tendencies carried out to its logical conclusion. Supposedly Harris carries "progressive" bonafides just in the fact that she's a female poc, even though in reality she's a member of the professional bourgeois that directly profited from the carceral state which disproportionately persecutes minorities. As California AG she did more to persecute black and Hispanic people than any individual Republican voter could ever hope to do in an entire lifetime, and this is apparently supposed to be the progressive champion of Democratic politics. It's a transparent sham that absolves white liberals of the guilt of their privilege by performing the proper sacraments, and rewards middle class & bourgeois minorities for perpetuating the exploitative system.

Yet white, male, or hetero privilege is never even meaningfully challenged, because there is still a massive reactionary political formulation outside of the confines of identity politics which conveniently makes it impossible to challenge any of those oppressive cycles. Idpol folks are so obsessed with policing language and performing the correct deference, because their own internal politics are more important than reality. Democrats don't really care if they actually win, or are a party of power, because it's more important that they perform the role of a principled opposition. In reality, being able to overcome the opposition means having a willingness to engage in a discoursive dialectical process, that can realize an ideological synthesis which creates a greater liberationist politics. Otherwise you have to overthrow the system by force and make the opposition bend to the will of your agenda. Yet liberals reject the use of force out of hand, and they don't want to be discoursive because they know their ideology doesn't hold up under scrutiny. In any real sense they're politically impotent, but the result of that impotence is that white liberals get to have their cake and eat it too. They can keep benefiting from all of their race, sex, and class privileges while having the added benefit of being praised for claiming to oppose them.

Normal people can spot these contradictions, even if they lack the ability to articulate them. They can feel it. It's a political dead end.

# ? Aug 10, 2017 19:14

Admiral Ray: May 17, 2014; Proud Musk and Dogecoin fanboy

i actually kinda like tgrs, but i only read a few threads in there. it's not crazy active so it's p. easy to stay up to date with them.

# ? Aug 10, 2017 19:16

Terrorist Fistbump: Jan 29, 2009; by Nyc_Tattoo

The funniest and most tragic thing about the creation of tgrs was the cults of personality, the paranoia, the authoritarian police tactics, and the constant purges. It was like watching the formation of the worlds tiniest dictatorship.

# ? Aug 10, 2017 19:18

Darkman Fanpage: Jul 4, 2012

Montasque posted:

E: supposedly these two are protesting BIKE LOCK GUY outside his trail.

some top kek there

# ? Aug 10, 2017 19:21

Al!: Apr 2, 2010

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Identity politics reached its apotheosis within the last year through the Clinton campaign, and now the premature push to make Kamala Harris the 2020 nominee. It's a fundamentally liberal political formulation that is ironically shaped as a reaction to white supremacy and heteronormativity, that subsumes the individual within a group identity that confers a social privilege within its own in-group politics. It claims to value diversity, but flattens it within the narrow confines of pre-defined stereotypes. Which in the end, causes the symbolic to overtake the real.

The most important thing about Hillary Clinton was that she was a woman, and all of the symbolic values that carried. All misgivings about her past record of stated policies and ideology were dismissed as mere misogynies.

And Kamala Harris is all of those contradictory and self-defeating tendencies carried out to its logical conclusion. Supposedly Harris carries "progressive" bonafides just in the fact that she's a female poc, even though in reality she's a member of the professional bourgeois that directly profited from the carceral state which disproportionately persecutes minorities. As California AG she did more to persecute black and Hispanic people than any individual Republican voter could ever hope to do in an entire lifetime, and this is apparently supposed to be the progressive champion of Democratic politics. It's a transparent sham that absolves white liberals of the guilt of their privilege by performing the proper sacraments, and rewards middle class & bourgeois minorities for perpetuating the exploitative system.

Yet white, male, or hetero privilege is never even meaningfully challenged, because there is still a massive reactionary political formulation outside of the confines of identity politics which conveniently makes it impossible to challenge any of those oppressive cycles. Idpol folks are so obsessed with policing language and performing the correct deference, because their own internal politics are more important than reality. Democrats don't really care if they actually win, or are a party of power, because it's more important that they perform the role of a principled opposition. In reality, being able to overcome the opposition means having a willingness to engage in a discoursive dialectical process, that can realize an ideological synthesis which creates a greater liberationist politics. Otherwise you have to overthrow the system by force and make the opposition bend to the will of your agenda. Yet liberals reject the use of force out of hand, and they don't want to be discoursive because they know their ideology doesn't hold up under scrutiny. In any real sense they're politically impotent, but the result of that impotence is that white liberals get to have their cake and eat it too. They can keep benefiting from all of their race, sex, and class privileges while having the added benefit of being praised for claiming to oppose them.

Normal people can spot these contradictions, even if they lack the ability to articulate them. They can feel it. It's a political dead end.

woof

# ? Aug 10, 2017 19:21

Darkman Fanpage: Jul 4, 2012

MizPiz posted:

But it's just stuck their... squirming helplessly... on that shiny hook...

*Posts screed on why you're a racist for not supporting Gulluh-centered imperialism*

repeat after me: yo ho yo ho/near the hooks i'll never go

# ? Aug 10, 2017 19:22

Montasque: Jul 18, 2003; Living in a hateful world sending me straight to Heaven

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Identity politics reached its apotheosis within the last year through the Clinton campaign, and now the premature push to make Kamala Harris the 2020 nominee. It's a fundamentally liberal political formulation that is ironically shaped as a reaction to white supremacy and heteronormativity, that subsumes the individual within a group identity that confers a social privilege within its own in-group politics. It claims to value diversity, but flattens it within the narrow confines of pre-defined stereotypes. Which in the end, causes the symbolic to overtake the real.

The most important thing about Hillary Clinton was that she was a woman, and all of the symbolic values that carried. All misgivings about her past record of stated policies and ideology were dismissed as mere misogynies.

And Kamala Harris is all of those contradictory and self-defeating tendencies carried out to its logical conclusion. Supposedly Harris carries "progressive" bonafides just in the fact that she's a female poc, even though in reality she's a member of the professional bourgeois that directly profited from the carceral state which disproportionately persecutes minorities. As California AG she did more to persecute black and Hispanic people than any individual Republican voter could ever hope to do in an entire lifetime, and this is apparently supposed to be the progressive champion of Democratic politics. It's a transparent sham that absolves white liberals of the guilt of their privilege by performing the proper sacraments, and rewards middle class & bourgeois minorities for perpetuating the exploitative system.

Yet white, male, or hetero privilege is never even meaningfully challenged, because there is still a massive reactionary political formulation outside of the confines of identity politics which conveniently makes it impossible to challenge any of those oppressive cycles. Idpol folks are so obsessed with policing language and performing the correct deference, because their own internal politics are more important than reality. Democrats don't really care if they actually win, or are a party of power, because it's more important that they perform the role of a principled opposition. In reality, being able to overcome the opposition means having a willingness to engage in a discoursive dialectical process, that can realize an ideological synthesis which creates a greater liberationist politics. Otherwise you have to overthrow the system by force and make the opposition bend to the will of your agenda. Yet liberals reject the use of force out of hand, and they don't want to be discoursive because they know their ideology doesn't hold up under scrutiny. In any real sense they're politically impotent, but the result of that impotence is that white liberals get to have their cake and eat it too. They can keep benefiting from all of their race, sex, and class privileges while having the added benefit of being praised for claiming to oppose them.

Normal people can spot these contradictions, even if they lack the ability to articulate them. They can feel it. It's a political dead end.

Yeah, pretty much.

# ? Aug 10, 2017 19:22

Pener Kropoopkin: Jan 30, 2013; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
(and can't post for 29 days!)

fool_of_sound posted:

in which ostensible leftists repeat right wing memes about how black people just pull the race card all the time

It's actually more about white people pulling the race card on Nina Turner.

# ? Aug 10, 2017 19:23

Zerg Mans: Oct 19, 2006

Montasque posted:

E: supposedly these two are protesting BIKE LOCK GUY outside his trail.

is that different from based stick man

# ? Aug 10, 2017 19:26

Zerg Mans: Oct 19, 2006

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Identity politics reached its apotheosis within the last year through the Clinton campaign, and now the premature push to make Kamala Harris the 2020 nominee. It's a fundamentally liberal political formulation that is ironically shaped as a reaction to white supremacy and heteronormativity, that subsumes the individual within a group identity that confers a social privilege within its own in-group politics. It claims to value diversity, but flattens it within the narrow confines of pre-defined stereotypes. Which in the end, causes the symbolic to overtake the real.

The most important thing about Hillary Clinton was that she was a woman, and all of the symbolic values that carried. All misgivings about her past record of stated policies and ideology were dismissed as mere misogynies.

And Kamala Harris is all of those contradictory and self-defeating tendencies carried out to its logical conclusion. Supposedly Harris carries "progressive" bonafides just in the fact that she's a female poc, even though in reality she's a member of the professional bourgeois that directly profited from the carceral state which disproportionately persecutes minorities. As California AG she did more to persecute black and Hispanic people than any individual Republican voter could ever hope to do in an entire lifetime, and this is apparently supposed to be the progressive champion of Democratic politics. It's a transparent sham that absolves white liberals of the guilt of their privilege by performing the proper sacraments, and rewards middle class & bourgeois minorities for perpetuating the exploitative system.

Yet white, male, or hetero privilege is never even meaningfully challenged, because there is still a massive reactionary political formulation outside of the confines of identity politics which conveniently makes it impossible to challenge any of those oppressive cycles. Idpol folks are so obsessed with policing language and performing the correct deference, because their own internal politics are more important than reality. Democrats don't really care if they actually win, or are a party of power, because it's more important that they perform the role of a principled opposition. In reality, being able to overcome the opposition means having a willingness to engage in a discoursive dialectical process, that can realize an ideological synthesis which creates a greater liberationist politics. Otherwise you have to overthrow the system by force and make the opposition bend to the will of your agenda. Yet liberals reject the use of force out of hand, and they don't want to be discoursive because they know their ideology doesn't hold up under scrutiny. In any real sense they're politically impotent, but the result of that impotence is that white liberals get to have their cake and eat it too. They can keep benefiting from all of their race, sex, and class privileges while having the added benefit of being praised for claiming to oppose them.

Normal people can spot these contradictions, even if they lack the ability to articulate them. They can feel it. It's a political dead end.

*sniff sniff* grrrrrrr

# ? Aug 10, 2017 19:26

Montasque: Jul 18, 2003; Living in a hateful world sending me straight to Heaven

Magnify:

# ? Aug 10, 2017 19:28

temple: Jul 29, 2006; I have actual skeletons in my closet

The problem I have with tgrs is it comes off a people that are coming into awareness of their racial identity and want to use it get back at people over the internet. I've lived with with racism so long, I'm just tired. I understand where they come from but it really doesn't appeal to me to bash white people all day when people I know need food, education, and healthcare. Anger is a tool to articulate problems but it doesn't solve problems.

# ? Aug 10, 2017 19:29

Pener Kropoopkin: Jan 30, 2013; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
(and can't post for 29 days!)

Well, Sargon getting jerked off by a masseuse has more value than his arguments.

# ? Aug 10, 2017 19:32

StashAugustine: Mar 24, 2013; Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

lol who doesn't use incognito mode

# ? Aug 10, 2017 19:33

Ague Proof: Jun 5, 2014; they told me
I was everything

do they think all massage parlours are like that
like in their porn

# ? Aug 10, 2017 19:34

Montasque: Jul 18, 2003; Living in a hateful world sending me straight to Heaven

Sargon spending all that KEKISTAN money handjobs and cam whores is the most on the nose thing possible.

Hack mother fucker.

# ? Aug 10, 2017 19:36

Notorious R.I.M.: Jan 27, 2004; up to my ass in alligators

I more see the extremely rigid moderation of TGRS as an inevitability of the nature of transgression: If you create a space where transgression is rigidly not allowed, people that are into transgression for transgression's sake are drawn to it. The only stable states for that sort of community are shitpiles of edgelords asking "Are Black People Are The Real Racists??" or tightly moderated places that have a significant false-positive rate for kicking out idiots.

I also read it regularly and don't see much if any white people bashing.

# ? Aug 10, 2017 19:36

Ague Proof: Jun 5, 2014; they told me
I was everything

Montasque posted:

Sargon spending all that KEKISTAN money handjobs and cam whores is the most on the nose thing possible.

Hack mother fucker.

this is like when they raided Bin Laden's hideout and found tons of porn

# ? Aug 10, 2017 19:38

Crowsbeak: Oct 9, 2012; by Azathoth; Lipstick Apathy

Terrorist Fistbump posted:

The funniest and most tragic thing about the creation of tgrs was the cults of personality, the paranoia, the authoritarian police tactics, and the constant purges. It was like watching the formation of the worlds tiniest dictatorship.

Just look at how many people have gotten bans from it. Seriously the palce is too much of a circlejerk for Sarah Lerner types.

Montasque posted:

Magnify:

My reaction?

# ? Aug 10, 2017 19:38

Admiral Ray: May 17, 2014; Proud Musk and Dogecoin fanboy

StashAugustine posted:

lol who doesn't use incognito mode

# ? Aug 10, 2017 19:39

Pener Kropoopkin: Jan 30, 2013; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
(and can't post for 29 days!)

Montasque posted:

Sargon spending all that KEKISTAN money handjobs and cam whores is the most on the nose thing possible.

Hack mother fucker.

Sargon has a wife, and a kid. :unsmigghh:

# ? Aug 10, 2017 19:40

DOCTOR ZIMBARDO: May 8, 2006

fool_of_sound posted:

in which ostensible leftists repeat right wing memes about how black people just pull the race card all the time

# ? Aug 10, 2017 19:46

the bitcoin of weed: Nov 1, 2014

Ague Proof posted:

do they think all massage parlours are like that
like in their porn

i learned from some GBS thread that there are websites dedicated to cataloguing which massage parlors will jerk you off and how good the jacking off is. they're actually really common

e: rubmaps iirc if you want to look up your local services

# ? Aug 10, 2017 19:46

Zerg Mans: Oct 19, 2006

fool_of_sound posted:

in which ostensible leftists repeat right wing memes about how black people just pull the race card all the time

weird that doesn't sound right leftists would never vomit right wing smears and memes to harm a liberal

# ? Aug 10, 2017 19:47

Montasque: Jul 18, 2003; Living in a hateful world sending me straight to Heaven

Oh... And Sargon got banned from twitter:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwi6Yl6p2Ek

# ? Aug 10, 2017 19:47

Zerg Mans: Oct 19, 2006

I've never had a handjob where I thought to myself "wow I couldn't have done a better job myself". Was I missing out or am I confident in my belief that given other sexual acts it's rather pointless

# ? Aug 10, 2017 19:48

Crowsbeak: Oct 9, 2012; by Azathoth; Lipstick Apathy

I think this was posted in the CTH thread but.

# ? Aug 10, 2017 19:48

Montasque: Jul 18, 2003; Living in a hateful world sending me straight to Heaven

Crowsbeak posted:

I think this was posted in the CTH thread but.

LOL

# ? Aug 10, 2017 19:50

Pener Kropoopkin: Jan 30, 2013; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
(and can't post for 29 days!)

zegermans posted:

I've never had a handjob where I thought to myself "wow I couldn't have done a better job myself". Was I missing out or am I confident in my belief that given other sexual acts it's rather pointless

Sounds like your cock is as numb as your brain.

# ? Aug 10, 2017 19:51