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tyler
Jun 2, 2014

E: wrong thread

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CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

Dead Reckoning posted:

Really, officer hazing is much more cerebral. Oh what fun we would have. Our deployed squadron commander made a man who was entrusted to command warplanes of the United States request a written waiver to policy so that the man could be in the same room as his wife with the door closed. On their anniversary. It was the most humiliating thing I have seen done to a husband since I watched Braveheart. Or that time we scheduled an extremely well performing Captain to deploy during the two weeks he had requested off for his wedding and honeymoon. He had already paid for tickets and hotel rooms on the assumption that no reasonable person would gently caress with his wedding just to avoid a deployment shortfall. You should have seen his face.

:stare:

Dead Reckoning posted:

They got me good one time: the Group security office didn't process my security clearance renewal, and when I asked why, they told me that they had lost my SF-86 and associated paperwork. Lost it! As though it was a pair of socks! And that it was my fault, because I had not been calling them regularly to make sure they were doing their job! My squadron leadership agreed that I was making them look bad by not being able to deploy, so they put me on a poo poo deployment with the worst Aircraft Commander in the squadron. Great prank, bro!

A few years later, I got a letter saying that OPM had lost my SF-86 *again*, and they didn't know who had it, but the joke was stale by that point.


No. I would have let my entire chain of command up to the CSAF piss in my mouth if it meant that they would have reassigned me to MC-130s or AC-130s.

:catstare:

Rekinom
Jan 26, 2006

~ shady midair gas hustler ~

~ good hair ~

~ colt 45 ~
Being an officer is a great stepping stone to something bigger and better. Have an exit plan. Like, go through OTS, get commissioned as a comm guy or something, be a dumb LT, get swole at the gym, gently caress a few female Lt's (or female SrA's if you like to live dangerously), and then bail after like 4 or 5 years for free GI-bill funded grad/law/med school. If you stay in past that, you will be stagnating in life. Unless you are a pilot, and only if your goal is to go airlines at some point. Honorable mention: become a ROTC instructor and get your masters at State U while creeping on low self esteem female cadets. Whatever you do, don't be one of those sad majors who retires after 20 years. And don't be the unhappily married/divorced Lt Col who stays for 20 and ends up going into civil service since they have no relevant skills in life other than being a government slave.

Being a career Air Force career is for political types. If you're an upper middle class kid who is ambitious and want to get face time with the boss and do dirt for them when it comes time to gently caress over other people, then stay for a career because you will do well. If you are a religious fundie, you should stay. If you are perpetually insecure and get erect at thought of having power over others, you should stay. If you are perpetually insecure and thrive on getting medals, rank, and recognition, and need military service to define yourself because your own personality is too weak and unimpressive, then you will do extremely well and should stay for 30 years. And if you're a hopeless virgin who wants to get pussywhipped by the first domineering wannabe girl whose life's ambition is to be one of the Real Officer Housewives of [insert base here] AFB, then you should stay in, too. Bonus points if you end up as swingers.

Wild T
Dec 15, 2008

The point I'm trying to make is that the only way to come out on top is to kick the Air Force in the nuts, beart it savagely with a weight and take a dump on it's face.
I mean you're 100% inevitably gonna become swingers eventually, the only question is whether you're in on it or not.

Arc Light
Sep 26, 2013



I enlisted to fulfill a proud family tradition of honorable wartime service. I expected a life of adventure and danger, surrounded by America's best and brightest.

After almost a decade, my current goal is to do no real work, and get paid to finance my off-duty hobbies. I have more than two brain cells, so despite zero effort, I'm somehow still a top performer.

It's working out better than I could possibly have anticipated.

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

Rekinom posted:

Being an officer is a great stepping stone to something bigger and better. Have an exit plan. Like, go through OTS, get commissioned as a comm guy or something, be a dumb LT, get swole at the gym, gently caress a few female Lt's (or female SrA's if you like to live dangerously), and then bail after like 4 or 5 years for free GI-bill funded grad/law/med school.

This appears to be the route I'm headed toward

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?

Rekinom posted:

Being an officer is a great stepping stone to something bigger and better. Have an exit plan. Like, go through OTS, get commissioned as a comm guy or something, be a dumb LT, get swole at the gym, gently caress a few female Lt's (or female SrA's if you like to live dangerously), and then bail after like 4 or 5 years for free GI-bill funded grad/law/med school. If you stay in past that, you will be stagnating in life. Unless you are a pilot, and only if your goal is to go airlines at some point. Honorable mention: become a ROTC instructor and get your masters at State U while creeping on low self esteem female cadets. Whatever you do, don't be one of those sad majors who retires after 20 years. And don't be the unhappily married/divorced Lt Col who stays for 20 and ends up going into civil service since they have no relevant skills in life other than being a government slave.

Being a career Air Force career is for political types. If you're an upper middle class kid who is ambitious and want to get face time with the boss and do dirt for them when it comes time to gently caress over other people, then stay for a career because you will do well. If you are a religious fundie, you should stay. If you are perpetually insecure and get erect at thought of having power over others, you should stay. If you are perpetually insecure and thrive on getting medals, rank, and recognition, and need military service to define yourself because your own personality is too weak and unimpressive, then you will do extremely well and should stay for 30 years. And if you're a hopeless virgin who wants to get pussywhipped by the first domineering wannabe girl whose life's ambition is to be one of the Real Officer Housewives of [insert base here] AFB, then you should stay in, too. Bonus points if you end up as swingers.

This should be in the OP.

Softface
Feb 16, 2011

Some things can't be unseen

Arc Light posted:

I enlisted to fulfill a proud family tradition of honorable wartime service. I expected a life of adventure and danger, surrounded by America's best and brightest.

After almost a decade, my current goal is to do no real work, and get paid to finance my off-duty hobbies. I have more than two brain cells, so despite zero effort, I'm somehow still a top performer.

It's working out better than I could possibly have anticipated.

This is my exact story, except I enlisted due to sadbrains and having no other options with the expectation of not becoming the real life version of Charlie Kelly.

TurdReynolds
Aug 2, 2017
Some bullshit is going on in my shop right now.

My entire squadron has the same duty hours, 0700 to 1630, which I was pretty content with. Tired, but content.
Out of left field comes this idea for a split shift in my shop, a predetermined crew in the shop comes in at 1000 and then leaves at 1800. Those of us on the regular shift were all for it because we thought our hours would be cut to match the eight hour shift that the split shifters were getting. Nope.

We work the same amount of time as we used to, and some days split shift gets off at the same time as us. They get the full hour and half lunch. Not to mention they're not even technically doing the shop's mission, we still have to do all the pulls, restores, custody accounts, escort duties, call forwards that we regularly do but with half the manning.

When I first got to this shop (first base) things were pretty nice and I was satisfied but I can't comprehend how no one is raising any questions about why half the shop is getting hosed.


V/R

dscruffy1
Nov 22, 2007

Look out!
Nap Ghost

TurdReynolds posted:

Some bullshit is going on in my shop right now.

My entire squadron has the same duty hours, 0700 to 1630, which I was pretty content with. Tired, but content.
Out of left field comes this idea for a split shift in my shop, a predetermined crew in the shop comes in at 1000 and then leaves at 1800. Those of us on the regular shift were all for it because we thought our hours would be cut to match the eight hour shift that the split shifters were getting. Nope.

We work the same amount of time as we used to, and some days split shift gets off at the same time as us. They get the full hour and half lunch. Not to mention they're not even technically doing the shop's mission, we still have to do all the pulls, restores, custody accounts, escort duties, call forwards that we regularly do but with half the manning.

When I first got to this shop (first base) things were pretty nice and I was satisfied but I can't comprehend how no one is raising any questions about why half the shop is getting hosed.


V/R

Did you make this account just to make this post?

Anyway, good news, sounds like someone has identified a problem and can raise a question about why half the shop is getting hosed.

(it's you)

TurdReynolds
Aug 2, 2017

dscruffy1 posted:

Did you make this account just to make this post?

Anyway, good news, sounds like someone has identified a problem and can raise a question about why half the shop is getting hosed.

(it's you)

Essentially, yes. I've lurked here in the past and now that some bullshit has come to fruition figured it was time to join the circlejerk.

While I should be the one to step up and point this poo poo out, being a young one striper doesn't really carry much merit with my shop. Hell, they had me and another airman clipping five foot firebreaks around ventilators with scissors last week, nothing I say will be meaningful to the NCOs.

xsf421
Feb 17, 2011

TurdReynolds posted:


nothing I say will be meaningful to the NCOs.

Welcome to the USAF, enjoy your stay.

Clavavisage
Nov 12, 2011

xsf421 posted:

Welcome to the USAF, enjoy your stay.

:yeah:

Reverence
Nov 1, 2009

So PLEX works on AF networks for now. Seems to stream pretty well on our garbage network too.

Belgian Waffle
Jul 31, 2006

TurdReynolds posted:

Essentially, yes. I've lurked here in the past and now that some bullshit has come to fruition figured it was time to join the circlejerk.

While I should be the one to step up and point this poo poo out, being a young one striper doesn't really carry much merit with my shop. Hell, they had me and another airman clipping five foot firebreaks around ventilators with scissors last week, nothing I say will be meaningful to the NCOs.

You haven't mentioned your supervisor's take on this and that's kinda concerning. Have you not talked to them about this yet or are they part of the problem?

Anyways, if you're perceiving some favoritism going around with the schedule then that's a real problem. If you start asking questions, people will have to take it seriously regardless of your rank. If they can't give you meaningful answers, you push that poo poo up your chain until you get some answers.

Dead Reckoning
Sep 13, 2011

Belgian Waffle posted:

You haven't mentioned your supervisor's take on this and that's kinda concerning. Have you not talked to them about this yet or are they part of the problem?

Anyways, if you're perceiving some favoritism going around with the schedule then that's a real problem. If you start asking questions, people will have to take it seriously regardless of your rank. If they can't give you meaningful answers, you push that poo poo up your chain until you get some answers.

Enjoy your letter of counseling for wholly unrelated disciplinary issues.

milk milk lemonade
Jul 29, 2016
This is what you get for joining the military. O'er the wild blue yonder Airman. Chair Force all the way! Semper adipem

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
The reason your shop did that is so the flight chief could get a bullet and the reason none of the NCOs are objecting is either because they're on the no work shift themselves or because they're sharing the bullet. Or maybe they're about to get out. Or the worst case scenario for you, all three

dscruffy1
Nov 22, 2007

Look out!
Nap Ghost

Larry Parrish posted:

The reason your shop did that is so the flight chief could get a bullet and the reason none of the NCOs are objecting is either because they're on the no work shift themselves or because they're sharing the bullet. Or maybe they're about to get out. Or the worst case scenario for you, all three

I dunno, if I was about to get out I wouldn't give a single gently caress about ruffling feathers on a lovely work shift.

But then I don't give a single gently caress about doing that now so maybe I'm just resigned to never getting promoted again.

AkrisD
Sep 2, 2004
olololol '04 newb hurrrrrrr
Next time you cut a "fire break," test it out to make sure you did it right. Then, when they ask you why you're so stupid you can pick that moment to bring it up now you're brain is just so worn out from all the deep-dicking you're getting. Perhaps if we just gently caress everyone equally...

Rythe
Jan 21, 2011

I love my job so much at times, the hardest thing I had to do this week was knock out a medal package for one of my SrA. In a 40 hour work week I managed 2 hours of real work along with probably 6 hours of lunch breaks, man being on salary rocks alot of the time.

nullscan
May 28, 2004

TO BE A BOSS YOU MUST HAVE HONOR! HONOR AND A PENIS!

We spent about 3.5 hours playing 6 degrees of separation between different actors yesterday. It was nice having some time off from re fibering another office because they wanted to reorganize desks for the thousandth loving time.

Knives Amilli
Sep 26, 2014
Holy poo poo things move fast once your retraining package for 1b4 goes through. Ive been lamenting basically being in job limbo for a year until tech school. Earliest school dates were looking to be january/feb 2018 and I had finally gotten okay with that. :unsmith:

Get a loving phone call ten minutes to try and put me in the August 28 course. Guy even said the September course had an opening. :negative:

Fuckkkk no thats too soon! Id be setting myself up for (literal) failure in the course.

Gotta really start cramming now as I bet any money a course opening will occur in October-December.

zombieswithblenders
Nov 21, 2008

Knives Amilli posted:

Holy poo poo things move fast once your retraining package for 1b4 goes through. Ive been lamenting basically being in job limbo for a year until tech school. Earliest school dates were looking to be january/feb 2018 and I had finally gotten okay with that. :unsmith:

Get a loving phone call ten minutes to try and put me in the August 28 course. Guy even said the September course had an opening. :negative:

Fuckkkk no thats too soon! Id be setting myself up for (literal) failure in the course.

Gotta really start cramming now as I bet any money a course opening will occur in October-December.

WTH, im still waiting for my 422a. Its been one month since I requested it.

xaarman
Mar 12, 2003

IRONKNUCKLE PERMABANNED! READ HERE
Oh hell yeah

http://www.airforcetimes.com/news/2017/08/10/chelsea-manning-shows-off-her-swimsuit-bod-for-vogue/

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


I'm happy this is as much as she's attention whored this far. The FAS probably keeps that in check.

milk milk lemonade
Jul 29, 2016
Smacked the mother loving poo poo out of my dick to that hot babe

gently caress war crimes, we should all cum together

BadOptics
Sep 11, 2012

Arc Light posted:

I enlisted to fulfill a proud family tradition of honorable wartime service. I expected a life of adventure and danger, surrounded by America's best and brightest.

After almost a decade, my current goal is to do no real work, and get paid to finance my off-duty hobbies. I have more than two brain cells, so despite zero effort, I'm somehow still a top performer.

It's working out better than I could possibly have anticipated.

:same:

Arc Light
Sep 26, 2013



Overseas assignments are dropping. I just found out I'll be escaping my purgatory and taking a trip to South Korea next year.

I'll need to extend for PCS retainability. Problem is, I'm TDY for NCO Academy and I won't be back at my home station for another few weeks.

I know we had an MPF goon here for a while. Does anybody know if extension and/or reenlistment paperwork can be done up at a TDY location, or if it needs to originate with the home MPF? I have seven days to get retainability, and there's zero chance I'll be back at my base by then.

I'll call the MPF on Monday to check, but I figured someone here might have a clue.

BadOptics
Sep 11, 2012

Arc Light posted:

Overseas assignments are dropping. I just found out I'll be escaping my purgatory and taking a trip to South Korea next year.

I'll need to extend for PCS retainability. Problem is, I'm TDY for NCO Academy and I won't be back at my home station for another few weeks.

I know we had an MPF goon here for a while. Does anybody know if extension and/or reenlistment paperwork can be done up at a TDY location, or if it needs to originate with the home MPF? I have seven days to get retainability, and there's zero chance I'll be back at my base by then.

I'll call the MPF on Monday to check, but I figured someone here might have a clue.

ROK assignment signing in! :):respek::)

Not a MPF goon, but I think you still have to process that sort of stuff through your home unit; we had a guy in my NCOA class a few months ago that had to work with his home MPF to get the year of retainability so he could graduate the course.

Edit: Also, good luck on your PLDPs! :v:

BadOptics fucked around with this message at 22:35 on Aug 19, 2017

Wild T
Dec 15, 2008

The point I'm trying to make is that the only way to come out on top is to kick the Air Force in the nuts, beart it savagely with a weight and take a dump on it's face.
Yeah that's extremely doable and not that uncommon. Just contact your home station MPS and they'll get the ball rolling.

nullscan
May 28, 2004

TO BE A BOSS YOU MUST HAVE HONOR! HONOR AND A PENIS!

Really should do a meetup when everyone gets here,seeing as I'll be here forever.

whatspeakyou
Mar 3, 2010

no fucks given.

nullscan posted:

Really should do a meetup when everyone gets here,seeing as I'll be here forever.

Considering we met back in 2009 and you're still loving there, I'm starting to believe this is true.

nullscan
May 28, 2004

TO BE A BOSS YOU MUST HAVE HONOR! HONOR AND A PENIS!

This tour is 3 years, probably extend out to retirement in 2022. Fukkit. Maybe by then we won't have a curfew.

Cenen
Apr 7, 2011
S. Arc Light

Arc Light
Sep 26, 2013



Cenen posted:

S. Arc Light


BROTHER.

Rythe
Jan 21, 2011

What is the chance of commissioning with a Music History/music teaching bachelors?

Cenen
Apr 7, 2011
lol just lol at this guy underestimating just how many people the Air Force has out singing around the world to boost moral. For real not the worst chance in the world but someone is probably going to follow up with a better answer.

Fake edit: still sore I watched the the AFCENT band while Primus and Clutch toured through my home station.

Prop Wash
Jun 12, 2010



The answer is it doesn't matter, nothing matters, you will be doing the exact same thing with your degree as a mechanical engineer or psychology major would. Sell yourself as a put-together person with People Skills and emphasize whatever teaching/leadership skills you have (do you run a club, etc.) or whatever. There are bands, and maybe they have a specialized hiring process for people that have demonstrable musical skills, but they are primarily enlisted positions. Accept that, even if you get accepted to OTS, it may be a year or more before you ever see a government dime. Or better yet, don't join the military!

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Ceiling fan
Dec 26, 2003

I really like ceilings.
Dead Man’s Band
If they haven't changed things, you need to take the GRE. If you score high enough, nobody cares what your degree is in.

Prop Wash posted:

Or better yet, don't join the military!

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