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Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004

Equeen posted:

not defending emoji movie (lol), but surely he could have called out its poorly executed "girl power!!!" message without bring up everyone's favorite buzzword.

It's good that they can't dog whistle their lovely ideas. And don't post that suggestion in a place where they might read it.

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Doktor Avalanche
Dec 30, 2008

the bitcoin of weed posted:

I don't know why I'm still listening to this speech if the dude's just making poo poo up, I can practically hear the parentheses around (((postmodernists)))
what a loving blowhard

to be fair, kermit doesn't strike me as antisemitic nor racist at all, not in the slightest
just insufferable

pillsburysoldier
Feb 11, 2008

Yo, peep that shit

Tokamak posted:

It's good that they can't dog whistle their lovely ideas. And don't post that suggestion in a place where they might read it.

They aren't exactly sophisticated or trenchant, nor do they offer particularly worthwhile criticism for most things.

Rhetorically, they're the equivalent of going "REALLY?" over and over again when confronting something. Often literally doing it, too, without much of a satisfactory explanation on anything, except "Gawl did you see that easily seen plot hole? What about that plot hole? That plot hole? I'm not a child!"

pillsburysoldier
Feb 11, 2008

Yo, peep that shit

Why do alt right people think jewish people control black people?

drilldo squirt
Aug 18, 2006

a beautiful, soft meat sack
Clapping Larry

pillsburysoldier posted:

Why do alt right people think jewish people control black people?

My theory is they see black people as a problem and also blame everything on the jews.

Admiral Ray
May 17, 2014

Proud Musk and Dogecoin fanboy

smug n stuff posted:

Thanks. Jesus Christ is this guy an idiot. He literally says we live in the "best of all possible worlds" holy poo poo.

he is not what you'd call a "philosophyer"

Admiral Ray
May 17, 2014

Proud Musk and Dogecoin fanboy

Ague Proof posted:

some idiot thought the Frankfurt School was an actual school

with teachers and desks and poo poo

it's where dr frankenfurter taught for decades u uncultured swine

Mermaid Autopsy
Jun 9, 2001

Notorious R.I.M. posted:

I'm not sure who started it, but Jordan Peterson seems to be one of the first. Here is him turning a basic cluelessness about Derrida into a random loving alt-right rant in 1 minute flat: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cf2nqmQIfxc&t=107s

"im not bitter im not bitter" 🌽

Proust Malone
Apr 4, 2008

pillsburysoldier posted:

Why do alt right people think jewish people control black people?

Jewish freedom riders.

Lindsey O. Graham
Dec 31, 2016

"We're not generating enough angry white guys to stay in business for the long term."

- The Chief

pillsburysoldier posted:

Why do alt right people think jewish people control black people?

because blacks are viewed as merely cattle, and if white america doesn't control em, the mythical stingy globalist jew does

meanwhile, i continue to cash defense checks, and america continues to vote in madmen

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Hodgepodge
Jan 29, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 225 days!

pillsburysoldier posted:

Why do alt right people think jewish people control black people?

the anti-semitic explanation for socialism is that it is a jewish plot to use black people against white people

Business Gorillas
Mar 11, 2009

:harambe:



Darkman Fanpage posted:

hoxha and bunkers are good

also in a lot of ways sa, at least with d&d, is sjw central. im not saying that as a good or bad thing they're just really obsessed woth id politics to the point that some threads are obnoxious as gently caress. at least in my experience. over emphasis on id politics can have a very corrosive effect on things. its why /pol/ is the way it is because they're obsessed with the defense of their whiteness against the horde of racial enemies they're convinced are bent on destroying white identity. it's why sections of tumblr are terrible because all white people are evil and only poc can be good. it's an obsession with something so shallow as the shade of one's skin instead of their character of who they are. liberal or conservative it doesnt matter they're both meaningless divisions.

just my view lol

reminder that the guy who got the race safe space or whatever its called created was a black dude that believed the American African was athletically superior to the white man because of hundreds of years of pedigree breeding for slaves

iirc he got banned for threatening to fight people and his forum pals self-segregated

Lindsey O. Graham
Dec 31, 2016

"We're not generating enough angry white guys to stay in business for the long term."

- The Chief

Darkman Fanpage posted:

hoxha and bunkers are good

also in a lot of ways sa, at least with d&d, is sjw central. im not saying that as a good or bad thing they're just really obsessed woth id politics to the point that some threads are obnoxious as gently caress. at least in my experience. over emphasis on id politics can have a very corrosive effect on things. its why /pol/ is the way it is because they're obsessed with the defense of their whiteness against the horde of racial enemies they're convinced are bent on destroying white identity. it's why sections of tumblr are terrible because all white people are evil and only poc can be good. it's an obsession with something so shallow as the shade of one's skin instead of their character of who they are. liberal or conservative it doesnt matter they're both meaningless divisions.

just my view lol



Business Gorillas posted:

reminder that the guy who got the race safe space or whatever its called created was a black dude that believed the American African was athletically superior to the white man because of hundreds of years of pedigree breeding for slaves

iirc he got banned for threatening to fight people and his forum pals self-segregated

the gang becomes alt-right

:munch:

Slim Jim Pickens
Jan 16, 2012

the bitcoin of weed posted:

i've never heard of this dipshit before this thread but he has 380,000 subscribers and a bunch of teenagers in the comments calling him daddy

what the gently caress happened to youtube

He made the news like a year ago because hate speech laws in Canada were being updated and he cried gulag. He's had a year of free publicity, and he was always moderately popular in reactionary circles because he's not personally heinous in some way. His fans are hilarious because they run around posting like choir boys and referring to him as "Dr. Peterson" and singing his praises.

I get the impression that they've never encountered a humanities professor before in their lives. Which, may or may not be one of the causative factors of this whole mess imo.

Montasque
Jul 18, 2003

Living in a hateful world sending me straight to Heaven


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8HJrr4-7B8

PJW has been banned from Facebook and most of his videos have been demonetized by youtube.

Word is a lot of pro-Trump youtube has been hit with demonetization including Diamond and Silk.

I think we are heading into a scenario where some tech bro like Peter Thiel makes the right-wing equivalent of youtube.

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler
why do they make themselves look so bad in their own videos

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler
build the nazi YouTube Peter

Lindsey O. Graham
Dec 31, 2016

"We're not generating enough angry white guys to stay in business for the long term."

- The Chief

Montasque posted:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8HJrr4-7B8

PJW has been banned from Facebook and most of his videos have been demonetized by youtube.

Word is a lot of pro-Trump youtube has been hit with demonetization including Diamond and Silk.

I think we are heading into a scenario where some tech bro like Peter Thiel makes the right-wing equivalent of youtube.

this is probably already in development and ready to go at any time

Montasque
Jul 18, 2003

Living in a hateful world sending me straight to Heaven
I cant wait for FOXNEWS youtube!

Admiral Ray
May 17, 2014

Proud Musk and Dogecoin fanboy

logikv9 posted:

build the nazi YouTube Peter

Watch half of the Google engineers defect, too.

pillsburysoldier
Feb 11, 2008

Yo, peep that shit

Finally a place where I can get all survivalist and catheter ads I want

pillsburysoldier
Feb 11, 2008

Yo, peep that shit

Besides fox and One American News I mean

Uncle Wemus
Mar 4, 2004

Big nose google guy already hopping on the alt right wagon and has a tour lined up
http://nymag.com/selectall/2017/08/who-is-james-damore-fired-googler-talks-to-stefan-molyneux.html

W
Edit: where the gently caress did this avatar come from

Montasque
Jul 18, 2003

Living in a hateful world sending me straight to Heaven

Admiral Ray posted:

Watch half of the Google engineers defect, too.

They'll just replace them with coding serfs from the third world! CAPTAL WINS AGAIN!

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004

Montasque posted:

I think we are heading into a scenario where some tech bro like Peter Thiel makes the right-wing equivalent of youtube.

Good. It's funny when they make an attempt at an alternative, see the garbage users pile up, and then watch the platform catch fire and sink under its own weight.

The reason why they can't monetise the videos is because the advertisers don't want to be associated with them. Advertisers are the Youtube and Google's bread and butter, so if advertisers aren't buying on Google, they won't buy on the right wing alternative either. It's going to be hard to pay the server bills with right wing friendly businesses let along make content creators any money.

Proust Malone
Apr 4, 2008

where then will I advertise my Medicare covered colloidal silver survival prep kit ?

Montasque
Jul 18, 2003

Living in a hateful world sending me straight to Heaven

Tokamak posted:

Good. It's funny when they make an attempt at an alternative, see the garbage users pile up, and then watch the platform catch fire and sink under its own weight.

The reason why they can't monetise the videos is because the advertisers don't want to be associated with them. Advertisers are the Youtube and Google's bread and butter, so if advertisers aren't buying on Google, they won't buy on the right wing alternative either. It's going to be hard to pay the server bills with right wing friendly businesses let along make content creators any money.

The demonetization most likely had little to do with advertiser pressure on specific videos and more to do with Google's new broader policies to stem hate on their platforms.

But there's validity in your point - Advertisers desperately want that 15-35 male demo they're not reaching on TV anymore, problem is the platform where that demo tends to hang out is filled with Pepes. The last thing a major corporation wants is a nazi scandal.

Mermaid Autopsy
Jun 9, 2001

alt righters will see a nationalist Socialism is their only way forward once private enterprise has deemed their reactionary thought unprofitable

Lindsey O. Graham
Dec 31, 2016

"We're not generating enough angry white guys to stay in business for the long term."

- The Chief

Montasque posted:

They'll just replace them with coding serfs from the third world! CAPTAL WINS AGAIN!

capital always wins

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Lindsey O. Graham
Dec 31, 2016

"We're not generating enough angry white guys to stay in business for the long term."

- The Chief

Tokamak posted:

Good. It's funny when they make an attempt at an alternative, see the garbage users pile up, and then watch the platform catch fire and sink under its own weight.

The reason why they can't monetise the videos is because the advertisers don't want to be associated with them. Advertisers are the Youtube and Google's bread and butter, so if advertisers aren't buying on Google, they won't buy on the right wing alternative either. It's going to be hard to pay the server bills with right wing friendly businesses let along make content creators any money.

yes, breitbart is in fact, a horrible dumpster fire of a failure

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Lindsey O. Graham
Dec 31, 2016

"We're not generating enough angry white guys to stay in business for the long term."

- The Chief

Mermaid Autopsy posted:

alt righters will see a nationalist Socialism is their only way forward once private enterprise has deemed their reactionary thought unprofitable

the far right has already come to this conclusion, yet, the alt right is vastly more successful while stubbornly refusing to come to the same conclusion
:thunk:

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Didn't Brietbart suffer a huge tanking in numbers after Trump won, with the strong possibility their views were inflated by bots?

Lindsey O. Graham
Dec 31, 2016

"We're not generating enough angry white guys to stay in business for the long term."

- The Chief

Inescapable Duck posted:

Didn't Brietbart suffer a huge tanking in numbers after Trump won, with the strong possibility their views were inflated by bots?

true
but, when it mattered, it was the biggest game in town besides 4chan, and pol, which are still humming along nicely by the way

also, Twitter is an unmitigated cesspool for racists, but no one likes to mention that

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Mermaid Autopsy posted:

alt righters will see a nationalist Socialism is their only way forward once private enterprise has deemed their reactionary thought unprofitable

They're slowly coming around to this already.

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004

Lindsey O. Graham posted:

yes, breitbart is in fact, a horrible dumpster fire of a failure

I had a look at their site and the ads are investment guides, online budget clothing, world of warships (in German), and antivirus software. I wonder if the business is even sustainable on those type of ads, and aren't relying on large donors. They don't seem like the type of ads that could support a streaming video platform and pay content producers a comfortable income. Besides, if you paid streamers like freelance bloggers, you couldn't produce enough videos to earn a living wage.

rudatron
May 31, 2011

by Fluffdaddy

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

They're slowly coming around to this already.
Honestly, I doubt.

Right-wing ideology can 'flirt' with the idea of economic change, and maybe in their pamphlets they try and make hay of it, for recruiting purposes.

But fundamentally, right-wing ideology apologizes and excuses oppression and domination. Income inequality (or more precisely, power inequality) is seen as a 'perk' and not a bug, might makes right, and morality simply stands in the way of the selfish, psychotic & psychosexual power fantasies, that form the subconscious foundation of far right ideology.

More likely, they're going to pick the goal of 'change what's profitable'.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

rudatron posted:

Honestly, I doubt.

Right-wing ideology can 'flirt' with the idea of economic change, and maybe in their pamphlets they try and make hay of it, for recruiting purposes.

But fundamentally, right-wing ideology apologizes and excuses oppression and domination. Income inequality (or more precisely, power inequality) is seen as a 'perk' and not a bug, might makes right, and morality simply stands in the way of the selfish, psychotic & psychosexual power fantasies, that form the subconscious foundation of far right ideology.

More likely, they're going to pick the goal of 'change what's profitable'.

You can poo-poo it all you like, but we're pretty close to seeing a Strasserite wing develop.

DOCTOR ZIMBARDO
May 8, 2006

pillsburysoldier posted:

Why do alt right people think jewish people control black people?

Long story short, the only organized group of non-Black people before WW2 who were interested in really fighting racism, ending segregation, bringing about political social and economic justice for Black people in America were Communists (who did not segregate their political activity and of course there were many Black communists in the USA as well). For instance, one of the questions used by the HUAC to determine if you were a Communist was if you believed the Red Cross blood supply should be desegregated, since only the Communist parties (and "affiliated" groups) held that belief (this was in the mid-50s). This was a long time before the modern stereotype of the white Bernie Bro.

Of course, for a very long time (at least since the Protocols of the Elders of Zion were published in English in 1917 during the first Red Scare), Bolshevism and Judaism had been conflated by reactionaries, conservatives, and even some liberals in the United States. So every time the Communists did something, according to these anti-Semites, it was because they were really Jews or Jewish agents. So when the anti-colonialist movement in Africa started kicking out the European powers (typically with Soviet support) it was a sort of international example of the idea.

Ever since then, it's a very popular idea with reactionaries and even some conservatives. You see it from Charles Manson to the Turner Diaries. Ultimately, its point is to discredit genuine solidarity across racial/national lines by using a conspiracy theory to posit that it's a catspaw for a specific racial group.

rudatron
May 31, 2011

by Fluffdaddy

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

You can poo-poo it all you like, but we're pretty close to seeing a Strasserite wing develop.
Yeah, but remember what actually ended up happening to the strasserites.

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Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

rudatron posted:

Yeah, but remember what actually ended up happening to the strasserites.

Yeah, and? Doesn't mean that it isn't happening. The Nazis never overthrew capitalism because they thought that Capital could be controlled in the interests of the Volk, and there's signs that parts of the alt-right are going to develop the early anti-capitalist character of the nascent Nazis.

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