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reignofevil posted:I actually dont buy the whole "The original was so good that no matter what a remake/sequel/unterseaboot would be hated" because when has that actually been true ever? The problem with "good things", especially in niche genre films like sci-fi adventure comedy, is that they don't make bank right away and may take years to find a cult audience. I don't think Ghostbusters performed that well at the box office, and it took a little bit before it reached total pop culture saturation. Modern studios don't have the balls to sit and wait for a movie to take-off and let the money they invested trickle back through merchandising and spin-offs. They want all the loving money, all upfront, and so they hire milquetoast writers and directors who will make the most Mediocre Consumer Product possible to have the widest mass appeal, then they hope for all the pieces to just fall into place after their massive marketing pre-hype push (or fake "backlash" in the case of GB2016). corn in the bible posted:idea for ghostbusters soft reboot: the ghostbusters, famous for saving new york decades ago, broke up due to the tragic death of egon. now ghosts are back and a new team of believers, inspired by their example, tries to deal with it unsuccessfully for a bit (insert some comedy here cause they're bad at the job?) but ultimately convinces venkman or ray to give them some secret of the technology that egon left in his notes so they can finish their new proton pack design and save the world. a remake of Stripes but instead of army boot camp it's ghost busting boot camp, headed by Ray Stantz with Peter Venkman as the drill sergeant who hits on the way-too-young women recruits
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King Vidiot posted:The problem with "good things", especially in niche genre films like sci-fi adventure comedy, is that they don't make bank right away and may take years to find a cult audience. I don't think Ghostbusters performed that well at the box office, and it took a little bit before it reached total pop culture saturation. Nope. The 1984 film was a monster hit, the second highest grossing film of the year, and the most successful comedy of the 80's.
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An homage to The Office but they're all minor workers in the Scranton branch of Ghostbusters Inc. Bill Murray cameos as the CEO who visits their office briefly and makes fun of their boss
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Aug 11, 2017 16:51
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A GLISTENING HODOR posted:And yeah, I basically have that Kevin Smith speech memorized. Yeah I mean, I'm definitely not sad that failed conman Paul Fieg got stomped, it's just that stupid executives annoy me much more in general And I mean... he's not even a very good conman because the only people he fooled were the dumbass execs and dopes who bought into the "you just hate this movie because sexism!" narrative Nobody else bought it, because well... nobody went to go see the movie lol
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corn in the bible posted:An homage to The Office but they're all minor workers in the Scranton branch of Ghostbusters Inc. Bill Murray cameos as the CEO who visits their office briefly and makes fun of their boss Somewhere Rainn Wilson is sadly sitting by his phone waiting for his agent to call.
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Aug 11, 2017 16:52
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Dmitri-9 posted:Neil Casey and Zach Woods are UCB improv people unless you meant the original UCB troupe. Well then they should've cast them better. Neil Casey would've made a fine villain had his character been a completely different character. I mean poo poo, if they're just gonna rip off the original whole cloth, Neil Casey could've been the rear end in a top hat EPA guy and Zach Woods would be his sniveling lackey who eventually turns on his boss and helps the Ghostbusters in the end. Also I'm pretty sure those two actors weren't given as much (or any?) leeway to improv like the main cast.
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Gammatron 64 posted:Yeah I mean, I'm definitely not sad that failed conman Paul Fieg got stomped, it's just that stupid executives annoy me much more in general Ironically that's not true either, because it made 200million at the box office. He just bloated the budget so much with stupid decisions that it still was a flop
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Aug 11, 2017 16:53
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the effects also look worse than those in a 33 year old flick.
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corn in the bible posted:Ironically that's not true either, because it made 200million at the box office. He just bloated the budget so much with stupid decisions that it still was a flop IIRC the shooting budget was 155M, but the studio spent something like 350M on marketing and miscellaneous poo poo, and you can basically cut the foreign box office take in half, plus American theaters kept X amount, so all told they lost something like 250M. On a comedy.
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Aug 11, 2017 17:02
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Wasn't the ghost busters movie too spooky for the Chinese market? Plus they would never laugh at ghosts.... To disrespectful to ancestors.
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KMART THE MOVIE posted:Wasn't the ghost busters movie too spooky for the Chinese market? Plus they would never laugh at ghosts.... To disrespectful to ancestors. It has skeletons in it so it can't be shown in China
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Aug 11, 2017 17:09
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So since they are ghosts, and since most of the "ghosts" in Ghostbusters are some type of creature, does that mean they're the ghosts of dead aliens, or ghosts of dead demons?
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FrensaGeran posted:So since they are ghosts, and since most of the "ghosts" in Ghostbusters are some type of creature, does that mean they're the ghosts of dead aliens, or ghosts of dead demons? "Yes! Ghost aliens!" --Paul Feig
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corn in the bible posted:"Yes! Ghost aliens!" As read by Mike
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I always just assumed a lot of the ghosts were demons or something. But now I know the truth....theres actually no ghosts, they are just special effects
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corn in the bible posted:"Yes! Ghost aliens!" "Those were some of the most - and I'm not exaggerating - some of the most talented ghost aliens I have ever had the privilege to work with."
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A GLISTENING HODOR posted:IIRC the shooting budget was 155M, but the studio spent something like 350M on marketing and miscellaneous poo poo How? Why? Could any movie made in 2015 recoup that amount of money? These idiots sell their soul to Papa John's and Krispy Kream and they still come out at a loss. The Hollywood business model is stupid.
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Aug 11, 2017 17:33
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hard counter posted:uncomfortable truth: when i talk to regular people irl jack is more frequently loathed than josh, most people simply just find josh fantastically mild and unworthy of further consideration Regular people irl don't have opinions on the RLM crew
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Aug 11, 2017 17:34
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i hope stallone wins his lawsuit so hollywood accounting can die.
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KMART THE MOVIE posted:Wasn't the ghost busters movie too spooky for the Chinese market? Plus they would never laugh at ghosts.... To disrespectful to ancestors. China's official censorship guidelines technically prohibit movies that "promote cults or superstition"
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lol i clicked on corn's probation avatar to see what that was about and saw the ghostbusters thread it's the cd rlm thread all over again there's a bunch of people who actually dislike ghostbusters 2016 but the entire thread is right now arguing with misterbibs and corn got probated for calling misterbibs an idiot. Why the gently caress is misterbibs protected there for derailing entire threads with trolling/stupidity and calling him out is punishable. 
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Hemingway To Go! posted:lol i clicked on corn's probation avatar to see what that was about and saw the ghostbusters thread This is why I avoid most subforums.
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Hemingway To Go! posted:lol i clicked on corn's probation avatar to see what that was about and saw the ghostbusters thread Because that forum is bad and we gotta wait for whoever is in charge to go 'ok enough' and swap out the leadership. The same sort of stuff happened in some other forum where people were talking about drinking animal fat as a weight loss diet and then someone developed diabetes because of it, came back to the thread and told everyone that his doctor said it was because of this diet and then the poster got probated. For telling people actual facts lmao
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King Vidiot posted:The problem with "good things", especially in niche genre films like sci-fi adventure comedy, is that they don't make bank right away and may take years to find a cult audience. I don't think Ghostbusters performed that well at the box office, and it took a little bit before it reached total pop culture saturation. Ghostbusters was the highest grossing movie (in the US) of 1984 at around $250 million which was insanely good back then. The previous year was Return of the Jedi with around $310 million. Irradiation fucked around with this message at 18:29 on Aug 11, 2017 |
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Hemingway To Go! posted:lol i clicked on corn's probation avatar to see what that was about and saw the ghostbusters thread lol yeah dude what did I say, never post in CD, not even once MisterBibs is one of the dumbest people on earth and he's like the baseline for discussion there
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KakerMix posted:Because that forum is bad and we gotta wait for whoever is in charge to go 'ok enough' and swap out the leadership. Classic. Dude was like 21 years old and his doctor put him on loving statins because his diet of cheese and bacon was literally killing him. He was beyond lethargic, his liver was shutting down, and his heart was entirely made of plaque. He was perfectly healthy before the "diet". The Watch & Weight mod banned anyone who said this was a bad thing. Replace keto diets with SMG and MisterBibs and that's how CD operates. (see also: the TCC mod who was telling heroin junkies to do acid)
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This site is hosed up.
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I love our dead gay forums
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Irradiation posted:Ghostbusters was the highest grossing movie of 1984 at around $250 million which was insanely good back then. The previous year was Return of the Jedi with around $310 million. not saying ~230 mill wasn't insanely good back then but beverly hills cop was the highest grossing movie that year, it was an r-rated movie with half the budget of gb84 with next to no marketing but still spent a long stretch of time as the #1 film that week thanks to excellent word of mouth, that year also had police academy and gremlins do pretty well, doing like ~150 mill and ~80 mill the whole argument that it took an unrepeatable arcane recipe to catch lightning in a bottle and make gb84 both the perfect film and critical & financial successes is probably the hardest part of the plinkett review to accept, like if gb84 wasn't marketable to kids and had toys, cartoons and later on games and stuff it'd be getting buried in the sands of time too along with the other decent films, it's weird having the praise be so shameless to the point where you couldn't make a successful film with proton packs, sfx ghosts and a new cast without pulling off the exact same blood ritual gb84 did, like all you'd really need is a director worth a drat who'd know good improv from bad and who didn't also write a script so bad there was nothing to fall back on to at least mike did start ragging on bill murray, now that's the kind of cynicism i respect, hail hydra
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wikipedia on Beverly Hills Cop posted:It earned $234 million at the North American domestic box office, making it the highest-grossing film of 1984 in the U.S. wikipedia on Ghostbusters posted:It received a positive response from critics and audiences and grossed $242 million in the United States 242 > 234 wikipedia Also Beverly Hills cop took 18 weeks to hit $200 mil and Ghostbusters only took 15. The point is that Ghostbusters did very well.
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What exactly is your point? 4 of the most brilliant and talented directors made 4 comedies at the same time that all ranged from successful to literally one of the most beloved films on earth. So it can't be lightning in a bottle if someone made more money? It can't be a beloved masterpiece that is one of the most recognized and cherished films in the world because at release another comedy did better? Are you saying Pitch Perfect 2 is more popular and well regarded and will endure for decades because its lowly piece of poo poo competitor Fury Road made a few less dollars on initial release? Are you MisterBibs? 🤔
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A GLISTENING HODOR posted:Classic. This is the most hosed up thing I've ever read on this website.
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HIJK posted:This is the most hosed up thing I've ever read on this website. my favorite is the tcc phenatyl thread. people explaining how they took a small dose(like a single grain of sand), blacked out for 2 weeks, maxed out every form of credit available to them, destroyed their entire house/apartment and nobody in their family will acknowledge their existence anymore and mild rashes are starting to turn into open sores. posters replying AFTER that are like: "cool so my order came in, how do u cut the grain of sand in half???" lmao
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^ lmaoHIJK posted:This is the most hosed up thing I've ever read on this website. Wait til you hear about the goon slave camp in Hawaii that tried to prevent their tree-uprooting construction equipment from being stolen by tying said tree remover to a tree.
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there's more than one way to make a successful film and maybe there was too much focus on gb16 making different decisions from gb84 than there was on gb16 making bad decisions, like the whole gimmick of there only being tightly written sci fi/comedy with no room for improv is a separate thing to say from fegi just being a con artist who whiffed hard on a film or the film having horrible technical issues in editing, and the kind of commentary that gb84 only happened thanks to a perfect storm didn't need to be included because you can dissect that travesty without saying unnecessary poo poo if that's a misterbibs' tier comment then i gotta say maybe he's maligned for no reason but i really don't want to loving say that
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bring back old gbs posted:my favorite is the tcc phenatyl thread. people explaining how they took a small dose(like a single grain of sand), blacked out for 2 weeks, maxed out every form of credit available to them, destroyed their entire house/apartment and nobody in their family will acknowledge their existence anymore and mild rashes are starting to turn into open sores. posters replying AFTER that are like: "cool so my order came in, how do u cut the grain of sand in half???"  A GLISTENING HODOR posted:^ lmao I am disgusted yet intrigued. Please expand?
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bring back old gbs posted:my favorite is the tcc phenatyl thread. people explaining how they took a small dose(like a single grain of sand), blacked out for 2 weeks, maxed out every form of credit available to them, destroyed their entire house/apartment and nobody in their family will acknowledge their existence anymore and mild rashes are starting to turn into open sores. posters replying AFTER that are like: "cool so my order came in, how do u cut the grain of sand in half???" Phenazepam. It's not like it's hard to get a Xanax script anyway.
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I kinda feel bad that TCC has provided so much comedy at the expense of human lives.
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Dmitri-9 posted:Phenazepam. It's not like it's hard to get a Xanax script anyway. yesssssssssss lmao i knew it started with a Ph thats just one thread, theres a back-patting heroin thread, all sorts of terrible life choices but its ok because 50 other people are slightly worse off
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Jose Oquendo posted:I kinda feel bad that TCC has provided so much comedy at the expense of human lives. I'm loving delighted every time I'm reminded of it
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