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a new study bible! posted:Don't sleep on Washington. Everything but Philly's pass rush looked bad yesterday. I can't buy the Redskins winning the division after losing those receivers unless Cousins goes full  Brees numbers to spite Gilbert.
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I think it's a reaction to the fact that the teams aren't policing themselves, and if anything are hiring people to cover their players' asses. It's an ugly look, sure, but it's even uglier that Zeke keeps finding himself in the middle of these dumb situations and the Cowboys are just shrugging about it. The teams won't do anything about it, so the league will.
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Is Eli going to play tonight? I'll probably watch the first Giants drive then move over to the Bengals/Buccs once Eli goes in.
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a new study bible! posted:Is Eli going to play tonight? I'll probably watch the first Giants drive then move over to the Bengals/Buccs once Eli goes in. haven't heard anything today but heard yesterday eli/OBJ are sitting out e: https://twitter.com/buffalobills/status/896050905115537409
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Aug 11, 2017 17:50
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That's huh....I guess Agolhor was doing something then
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Ronald Darby is supposed to be good, isn't he?
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89 posted:Ronald Darby is supposed to be good, isn't he? I would be happy to get him.
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Certainly better than what they were starting before, yeah.
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Darby is pretty good. They got a pretty good CB from the Rams to replace him. Matthews is mediocre as poo poo Just collecting picks I guess.
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Aug 11, 2017 18:05
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OTOH this means more playing time for nelson agholor so i am excited
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Aug 11, 2017 18:06
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Darby is PFF's #5 rated rookie CB since they started grading in 2006. Also their 2015 rookie of the year. Had a sophomore slump last year. Also, lol Bills secondary after this and losing Gilmore.
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89 posted:Darby is PFF's #5 rated rookie CB since they started grading in 2006. Did you not read they traded for Gaines
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Aug 11, 2017 18:13
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So Ronald Darby and Sidney Jones should be cool
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Aug 11, 2017 18:14
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Looks like the Zeke suspension for six games is real. Also.... this letter. http://static.nfl.com/static/content/public/photo/2017/08/11/0ap3000000828569.pdf
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Aug 11, 2017 18:16
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So this year it's likely to be Darby/Mills/Robinson/Douglas (i could see Rasul getting the nod over Robinson) and then slot Sidney Jones into the outside with Darby next year? This could be REALLY awesome and shades of the early Andy Reid/Jim Johnson era secondaries
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Aug 11, 2017 18:20
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Last time we traded for a Bills D player it did not end well.. I'm going to be airing on the side of caution here.
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Aug 11, 2017 18:22
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Chip Kelly was a loving moron. And Darby was with Schwartz his rookie year. Lots of man & press coverage. Had a great year. Then, they moved to zone last year without Schwartz and he had a down year.
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Aug 11, 2017 18:28
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Awesome move by the Eagles!!! They have too much talent to go into the season with such a gaping hole at CB. They are obviously in win now mode.
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corn on the cop posted:haven't heard anything today but heard yesterday eli/OBJ are sitting out  if you had told me this time last year that we would trade our only good WR.This is good news though as we now might actually be able to stop the passing attack.
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Aug 11, 2017 18:34
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A much needed trade, that said I liked JMatt and will miss him. He was our only shining light in 2 years of absolute turgid wr play, was kinda looking forward to seeing him do it when he wasn't having to carry the load himself.
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Shinjobi posted:I think it's a reaction to the fact that the teams aren't policing themselves, and if anything are hiring people to cover their players' asses. It's an ugly look, sure, but it's even uglier that Zeke keeps finding himself in the middle of these dumb situations and the Cowboys are just shrugging about it. It's not about the teams policing themselves, it's that it's not the NFL's job to investigate and punish domestic abuse claims, that's the job of law enforcement. The NFL's only involvement should be to put pressure on law enforcement agencies to do their due diligence and do it right and tell teams to stay the gently caress out of it, not step in and run their own investigations and dole out punishment on their own terms. Ray Rice and Greg Hardy should have been unable to play because they were in jail, not because they were suspended. Same for Vick. Let teams decide who they want to employ (and take the associated blowback) and let law enforcement do their jobs. Every time the NFL exerts more and more authority in this process, it sets a new, worse precedent. In other news, that's a good trade by the Eagles. Darby should already be familiar with their system and it's clear the Bills are just in firesale mode.
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x-post from the main N/V thread: In happier Philly news, Doug Pederson not only wants to go for it on 4th down more often, he also wants to go for 2 all the time. http://www.phillyvoice.com/doug-pederson-stays-aggressive-preseason-opener/ Philly Voice posted:Pederson said that the feedback that he received from Paganetti and Halaby was that he should have perhaps gone for it on fourth down even more than he did last season. Dougie P's Mild Ride is everything we were promised by the False Prophet and Defiler C*** K*** TheChirurgeon posted:In other news, that's a good trade by the Eagles. Darby should already be familiar with their system and it's clear the Bills are just in firesale mode. Come home Shady. Please come home.
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Blount and Matthews for Shady straight up who says no? Probably the Bills but gently caress 'em, I want to have a jersey for a current player again.
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euphronius posted:Is it possible to go 4-0-16? listen I know Eagles fans post a lot of jokes about 19-0 or whatever but you know the season is only 16 games right?
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TheChirurgeon posted:listen I know Eagles fans post a lot of jokes about 19-0 or whatever but you know the season is only 16 games right? Maybe for your team it is. 
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TheChirurgeon posted:listen I know Eagles fans post a lot of jokes about 19-0 or whatever but you know the season is only 16 games right? Playoffs are up to 4 games
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TheChirurgeon posted:It's not about the teams policing themselves, it's that it's not the NFL's job to investigate and punish domestic abuse claims, that's the job of law enforcement. The NFL's only involvement should be to put pressure on law enforcement agencies to do their due diligence and do it right and tell teams to stay the gently caress out of it, not step in and run their own investigations and dole out punishment on their own terms. Ray Rice and Greg Hardy should have been unable to play because they were in jail, not because they were suspended. Same for Vick. Let teams decide who they want to employ (and take the associated blowback) and let law enforcement do their jobs. Every time the NFL exerts more and more authority in this process, it sets a new, worse precedent. Maybe the NFL thinks it would be easier and more fruitful now to go after the players tarnishing their image, than it would be to somehow cleanse the justice system of inefficiency and corruption. Do you realize how insane that sounds? Do you think the owners want that? gently caress no, they want to keep sweeping poo poo under the rug. I totally get being pissed about this ruling when other wife beaters and other heinous criminals went unpunished. It's maddening, but I'd rather the NFL get it right eventually than them ignore the problem forever. I don't trust team owners to do the right thing, I don't think the justice system is going to magically unfuck itself (I live two hours away from Baylor,  ), so I'm ultimately fine with the NFL taking matters into its own hands.
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euphronius posted:Playoffs are up to 4 games so you're asking if it's possible for a team to go 0-0-16 and then make the playoffs and run the table no, I uh, I don't think that's very likely Shinjobi posted:Maybe the NFL thinks it would be easier and more fruitful now to go after the players tarnishing their image, than it would be to somehow cleanse the justice system of inefficiency and corruption. Do you realize how insane that sounds? Do you think the owners want that? gently caress no, they want to keep sweeping poo poo under the rug. The problem is that the NFL taking matters into its own hands further fucks the justice system by creating an avenue for them to go "gently caress it, the NFL will handle this" when players are involved in issues of domestic violence or other criminal matters. And that's before you consider that the NFL or its organizations are often complicit in tampering with the original investigations in the first place. It's not "The NFL getting it right," it's "the NFL taking the power away from the justice system" which, even if the justice system is hosed, still has boundaries laid out in the constitution and isn't an arbitrary process with punishments decided by one guy based on how badly the alleged crime will hurt ticket sales.
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So you are saying it's possible?? I wish this to happen.
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euphronius posted:So you are saying it's possible?? I think for it to even be possible, every team would have to tie every game. Or at least 11 teams in the same conference, which could somehow lead to the 0-0-16 team getting a wildcard spot on tiebreakers. but for 11 teams in a conference to go 0-0-16, it probably requires that the whole league do it because of schedule dependencies I'm not going to investigate
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Wouldn't the 0-0-16 team just be a regular 8-8 team. Plenty of them have been wild cards.
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euphronius posted:Wouldn't the 0-0-16 team just be a regular 8-8 team. Plenty of them have been wild cards. Yeah ties are 'half of a win and half of a loss', so, you'd just have to tie every game while in a division where every other team has a losing record, and you could even have a home playoff game in the Wildcard round.
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grah posted:Yeah ties are 'half of a win and half of a loss', so, you'd just have to tie every game while in a division where every other team has a losing record, and you could even have a home playoff game in the Wildcard round. Ah, fair enough. I forgot that the NFL does half-and-half and not win% for standings so yeah I guess it's more likely, but still not going to happen
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