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bamhand posted:All 2 lane maps are 1-4. 4v3 in one lane and 1v2 in another lane usually ends up having the 4v3 doing more damage than the 2v1, so it's generally better to go 1-4. Plus the "1" in the 2v1 lane is usually a dedicated solo lanes (azmo, nazeebo, sonya) at least in HL. So you're often trying to bully someone designed to farm quickly and safely
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bamhand posted:This one is awful and impossible to win as the attacker. Defending team can just AFK on spawn and still not lose. Just stomped as attacker. So, ya.
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Aug 11, 2017 19:18
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veedubfreak posted:Just stomped as attacker. So, ya. Is it changed from last time? The first time they had it the defending team would just spawn on top of the cart so you literally could never turn in.
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Aug 11, 2017 19:30
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bamhand posted:Is it changed from last time? The first time they had it the defending team would just spawn on top of the cart so you literally could never turn in. Dunno, but I just won my 2nd attacker game. First game was defend, won. Then 2 wins as attacker. Maybe they changed the spawn timers.
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Aug 11, 2017 19:31
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"We keep adding maps with a bunch of small monsters to kill and don't know why specialists don't get picked." -Blizzard PS: It's super cool watching a Kerrigan just mow down small monster piles with chain leaps.
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Aug 11, 2017 19:48
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No Wave posted:Seriously what's with the mid teamfights at level 1. They are completely pointless and I see both teams with a lane empty two minutes in for no reason in half my games. Mid minions arrive slightly faster than top/bottom, and there is nothing else going on. If you don't go mid and the other team does, there is a good chance they will be able to some damage to your towers or take one out. Basically you go mid to defend against the other team going mid.
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Aug 11, 2017 19:50
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Toshimo posted:"We keep adding maps with a bunch of small monsters to kill and don't know why specialists don't get picked." -Blizzard
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Aug 11, 2017 19:54
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No Wave posted:Did Blizzard say that? Also are specialists noticeably unpopular outside of like esports? Yes, my uncle at Blizzard said that.
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Aug 11, 2017 19:56
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Toshimo posted:"We keep adding maps with a bunch of small monsters to kill and don't know why specialists don't get picked." -Blizzard Garrosh's level 4 "In for the Kill" is good and fun, too
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Nazeebo and Sylvanas both still have the Generic Talent Fury of the Storm. The Talent is not identical because
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Midnightghoul posted:Greymane is one of those characters that is probably balanced fine and is in the meta but is in dire need of a talent rework. His best build is the same in nearly every situation and a lot of his talents are extremely bad. Yeah but then they might give him the Thrall treatment with a bunch of random quests and summary nerf to his poke strength.
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Aug 11, 2017 20:03
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bamhand posted:All 2 lane maps are 1-4. 4v3 in one lane and 1v2 in another lane usually ends up having the 4v3 doing more damage than the 2v1, so it's generally better to go 1-4. Grubby was talking about this is some random video. It used to always be 3 and 2 until someone started abusing a lane pushing 4v3, then everyone changed to 4 and 1. That said, I've seen some games where they have a very effective pair (say tass, illidan) and threesome (say guldan, auriel, tank) where they win the 2 lane and stalemate the 3 lane very well.
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Aug 11, 2017 20:16
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Toshimo posted:Those don't interact like that. They do since her talent rework, the free Q is affected by talents. Another reason why Sylvanas has the shittiest level 7 in the game balance wise, there's absolutely no reason to ever not go for the triple damage. e: nevermind, possession sylvanas + murky for bribe stacks, nazeebo for extra ritual stacks, azmodan for globe stacks, the stupid gimmicky comps are endless 
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Aug 11, 2017 20:20
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Thanks for the tips
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Eraflure posted:They do since her talent rework, the free Q is affected by talents. Another reason why Sylvanas has the shittiest level 7 in the game balance wise, there's absolutely no reason to ever not go for the triple damage. Uh, you'd be denying those stacks if you went for Possession. Unless the other character was on the enemy team.
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Aug 11, 2017 20:40
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Great. Like all things Hanamura, gently caress this Brawl. Crashed in the middle. Half an hour later, still tells me game is in progress and forces a rejoin, but the rejoin crashes, and I can't cancel out. So, I guess I just can't play today. Thanks, Blizz.
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e: ^^^^^^^^^^ https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3724675 No Wave posted:Getting a kill level 1 in mid does basically nothing. You're not denying soak and you get negligible xp (like one minion's worth of xp). It's quest-related for me, for sure. I play a lot of Stukov and take his W quest at level 1. It leads to a huge increase in healing from level 7 on, and I usually net 30-40% of my progress off that initial fuckery mid. 2 SPOOKY fucked around with this message at 20:58 on Aug 11, 2017 |
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Aug 11, 2017 20:48
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MisterZimbu posted:meta for lane arrangements No Wave posted:you can do whatever as long as you soak all waves This is why I left League for HotS. That and I'm a shameless Blizzard fanboy.
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Shadowlyger posted:Uh, you'd be denying those stacks if you went for Possession. Unless the other character was on the enemy team. Exactly.
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Aug 11, 2017 20:59
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Hotfix huh.
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Aug 11, 2017 21:53
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veedubfreak posted:Hotfix huh. It fixed it so I can log in now. I'm ambivalent about that.
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Aug 11, 2017 22:02
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Level 1 5v5 mid brawls are also great for heroes who need quest stacks. I'm playing Azmo a lot in QM right now because global dunks are so fun, and the lvl1 fight usually lets me get 3-6 stacks on sieging wrath from my first two dunks, which is huge.
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All three of my brawl games had the attackers win. Seems completely based on who drafts better and has the team with fewer dumbasses on it, basically just like every other brawl ever.
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In my games it was 2 wins by the attackers and 1 by the defenders. The defender team was ETC, Malfurion (me), Kharazim, Auriel and Murky. Funny enough, half a minute in that match someone remarked that we might have gone too heavy on the supports and not enough damage. Nope, in the end sustain was king.
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Aug 11, 2017 23:32
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A lot of people also don't seem to understand that staying in the contest circle makes all the difference in this brawl.
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Still think that auriel pick was highly questionable
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John Murdoch posted:Seems completely based on who drafts better and has the team with fewer dumbasses on it, basically just like every other brawl ever. Should that not be the case?
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whalestory posted:Should that not be the case? No, that's how it should work. In the past it was basically the defenders game to lose.
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i want to play an e sport so that i can refuse attendance at family functions with the excuse that "Im training for the Blizzard Cup/Bowl"
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Sensual Simian posted:i want to play an e sport so that i can refuse attendance at family functions with the excuse that "Im training for the Blizzard Cup/Bowl" Just move 1000 miles away from your family, then you don't need excuses.
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whalestory posted:Should that not be the case? I wasn't clear. I'd rather matches not be decided by who has someone DC first or inevitably be one-sided stomps. (Granted, random draft makes the latter harder to achieve.) John Murdoch fucked around with this message at 01:46 on Aug 12, 2017 |
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Fun brawl. Malthiel is insane. Lost third one and the Chromie on our team had the lowest damage. Seriously wondering how that's possible.
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I actually like this brawl. Admittedly, escorting payloads sucks but the map totally makes up for that part. This map is loving awesome.
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They really captured the overwatch experience in this quite well - very exciting fights and a constant struggle to stop your team from trickling in.
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 wtf. We had a brawl where all 10 players had a pick between probius, probius, and probius. Side note, it turns out that you can blow up friendly probius's void zones.
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Aug 12, 2017 05:42
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Dietrich posted:
Cannon Rush the Brawl
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Dietrich posted:
There's a low% chance of everyone being forced into the same hero in most brawls.
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McTimmy posted:There's a low% chance of everyone being forced into the same hero in most brawls.
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100% Brightwing made me want to literally kill myself.
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