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Excellent Politico article about why the "there are no good options"trope is bullshit. https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10154809516826680&id=62317591679
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Sure we do, Congress hasn't declared war since the 40s, they're probably not going to start now barring NK doing something so stupendously horrendous that it results in China placing its military under US control to better coordinate the assault. Doesn't mean we won't invade NK, but there won't be a "war"
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Bicyclops posted:James Mattis came up with mean nuclear policy. Many dead. Not fair to Korea! Why no diplo option, Jimmy? Jimmy Nuka
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Or, as I like to call him mutually assured destruction Dog Mattis! /mugs the camera /is actually tweeting /poops
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^^^  Azhais posted:Sure we do, Congress hasn't declared war since the 40s, they're probably not going to start now barring NK doing something so stupendously horrendous that it results in China placing its military under US control to better coordinate the assault.  perhaps you ought to look more closely at the actual issue rather than the grammar of the language.
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coyo7e posted:^^^ He was being deliberately flippant.
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I still maintain that if Donald intended to actually declare war, or if Mattis/McMaster/Kelly thought that he was likely to, we would be seeing mobilization by now.
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Spiritus Nox posted:I still maintain that if Donald intended to actually declare war, or if Mattis/McMaster/Kelly thought that he was likely to, we would be seeing mobilization by now. If they did that north korea would attempt to pre-empt us.
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Spun Dog posted:Between this thread and the president, I don't get jokes anymore.  , but I'm not going to bother giving a drat, "all trash on the floor goes in the trashbin", as my grandmother used to say when she cleaned my room and my comics and toys got tossed if they weren't put away.. Perhaps more people ought to live like that.
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business hammocks posted:Looks like he owned up to not finishing the phd. Lying about that alone is enough to get yourself fired. Did he say he had one somewhere? I checked his linkedin when this debacle started and he doesn't say he has a PhD there. Not that I am defending this douchebag...
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Spiritus Nox posted:I still maintain that if Donald intended to actually declare war, or if Mattis/McMaster/Kelly thought that he was likely to, we would be seeing mobilization by now. Donny doesn't know what the word mobilization means.
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Stairmaster posted:If they did that north korea would attempt to pre-empt us. They literally can't actually fight without doing that
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I seriously expect a Trump war to start with a tweet declaring war, then a bunch of followup tweets annoyed at the army for not attacking yet.
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Aug 12, 2017 00:25
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the black husserl posted:I don't have the inherent disgust/hatred for Trump that some people have had since the very start of his candidacy (I just thought he was gross/dumb) but the more I've been exposed to him the more I've come to believe he is a truly despicable person. Yeah he's a whole different breed. I think he'd be a poo poo human regardless just like there are Warren Buffetts in the world that are obscenely rich but don't strike me as complete monsters
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Remember when Trump dodged any discussion of his strategy against ISIS or lack thereof by saying that any candidates who did talk about it were giving their plans away before the military has a chance to enact them? Well he's basically doing that now. Law of Trumpian Projection strikes again.
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the black husserl posted:I don't have the inherent disgust/hatred for Trump that some people have had since the very start of his candidacy (I just thought he was gross/dumb) but the more I've been exposed to him the more I've come to believe he is a truly despicable person. The dude's first venture into the public eye involved getting sued for not letting black people rent his properties. He's always been scum.
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Spiritus Nox posted:They literally can't actually fight without doing that They have a credible second strike in terms of hitting south korea at the very least.
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lol worlds biggest bully is now realizing he has worlds strongest military and is going to get us all eradicated by everyone getting super tired of the worlds biggest bully this is such a neat story
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Darth Walrus posted:The dude's first venture into the public eye involved getting sued for not letting black people rent his properties. He's always been scum. Oh totally, racist, con-artist, greedy landlord bully scum for sure. I guess I just didn't think it was...personal. Like, it's clear he enjoys keeping Americans in suspense and making them sweat over the threat of war. It's not just a means to covering up his ignorance, he seems to be genuinely enjoying the whole thing.
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Your Taint posted:Excellent Politico article about why the "there are no good options"trope is bullshit. hey gently caress you for this link http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/07/24/how-to-take-down-kim-jong-un-215411?cmpid=sf
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the black husserl posted:Oh totally, racist, con-artist, greedy landlord bully scum for sure. I guess I just didn't think it was...personal. If there's one thing Donny loves most, it's ratings. That's why he brings up his EC win so much, it's the ultimate proof that he brings in the numbers.
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pokie posted:Did he say he had one somewhere? I checked his linkedin when this debacle started and he doesn't say he has a PhD there. Not that I am defending this douchebag... He did not complete his PhD.
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the black husserl posted:Oh totally, racist, con-artist, greedy landlord bully scum for sure. I guess I just didn't think it was...personal. it's quite literally narcissistic gaslighting this is what sociopaths do in personal relationships. he now gets to control an entire country with the same tactics. it is a narcissistic wet dream
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farraday posted:https://twitter.com/barbarastarrcnn/status/896152426977280000 Lol DoD thought the quote was from an entirely different president
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I'm honestly baffled... what is the implied rationale behind a possible military action in Venezuela? Like was Trump just confused about what country they were talking about?
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skylined! posted:it's quite literally narcissistic gaslighting Thats how I've come to see it and a lot of people still seem curiously okay with it or think he's going to adapt to the office rather than expecting it adapting to him.
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Sandeep posted:I'm honestly baffled... what is the implied rationale behind a possible military action in Venezuela? Like was Trump just confused about what country they were talking about? "Me big toughy guy." "Fox say... Venezuela? Venezuela... Venezuela!" "We're considering military options for Venezuela."
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skylined! posted:it's quite literally narcissistic gaslighting I don't disagree with the thesis, but I also don't think gaslighting means what you think it means.
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Sandeep posted:I'm honestly baffled... what is the implied rationale behind a possible military action in Venezuela? Like was Trump just confused about what country they were talking about? We probably just ended up in the Mercenaries timeline somehow, no big deal
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Arglebargle III posted:hey gently caress you for this link Oh poo poo. Apologies for subjecting everyone to racist facebook comments.
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Sandeep posted:I'm honestly baffled... what is the implied rationale behind a possible military action in Venezuela? Like was Trump just confused about what country they were talking about? Go read the entire Venezuela thread.  I'm against US military action there, but "authoritarian hellscape" misses a few notes of what makes current Venezuela uniquely horrifying.
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Ague Proof posted:Not to get all 4d chess but Trump does disguise a lot of that malevolence as blunders. That detail makes me think of the guy at the end of Hannibal where that dude is trying to insult Julianne Moore while Anthony Hopkins is eating pieces of his brain and it comes out all garbled. The idea that he practiced that line communicates his malevolence and sheer incompetence.
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GreyjoyBastard posted:I don't disagree with the thesis, but I also don't think gaslighting means what you think it means. nah he's gaslighting everyone he can lies projects attempts to flatter denies saying things he's on tape saying is clearly wearing us down over time actions and words rarely sync is literally telling the nation everyone but him is a liar what is your definition for gaslighting
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Sandeep posted:I'm honestly baffled... what is the implied rationale behind a possible military action in Venezuela? Like was Trump just confused about what country they were talking about? Maybe he thinks the US can take the oil.
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So this guy thinks we're in sweeps week or Like it's not building excitement and good tension, he's building existential dread and horror
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This is it boys. Mueller's getting the axe.
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GreyjoyBastard posted:Go read the entire Venezuela thread. No, I understand that things are awful there and it's only going to get worse. But there are no American interests there and there is no threat to American interests there. And outside of those two cases, America doesn't really intervene in another country's internal affairs. Especially not militarily. I don't think there is any constituency here or in Venezuela or anywhere in the world that is recommending a military intervention here. It's way crazier than Grenada.
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