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The irony, as a Charger fan in Boise all I got was your crappy Seahawks cast 
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savesthedayrocks posted:The irony, as a Charger fan in Boise all I got was your crappy Seahawks cast You would have thought the feed was crappy regardless of which side it came from.
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Aug 14, 2017 04:16
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I'm so glad I don't give a poo poo about sports. Makes cord cutting a breeze.
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Aug 14, 2017 08:40
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Fuzz posted:I'm so glad I don't give a poo poo about sports. Makes cord cutting a breeze. Even if you do give a poo poo, you can get every game in HD/NFL Red Zone by downloading simple software and checking a couple sites.
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Aug 15, 2017 22:06
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I've had cable channels for I'd say about a month and Xfinity still hasn't cut it down to just the basic local like I'm supposed to so I still literally have all of their channels. Turns out my entire family and I prefer to watch TV just like don't have any cable. Streaming stuff is way more enjoyable than surfing 100s of channels with nothing on. If I want to watch Jeopardy I flip over to the OTA antenna because channel flipping on that is way faster than Xfinity's slow as poo poo guide. Basically we have cable and don't use it. So yay? gently caress 'em man. Still getting my internet cheaper than not getting any cable. That's weird.
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Aug 16, 2017 19:09
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Croatoan posted:
Not so weird if you just assume that providing "Internet" is super cheap and they are using the "double play" bundles to subsidize/ prop up cable subscription numbers.
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Aug 17, 2017 17:25
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DirectTV Now is bringing back the free AppleTV. Hilariously the offer is not available online (must go to a store or call them) and I don't think they're doing the lifetime of top tier for $35 part either. However, this is still cheaper than buying an AppleTV outright so if you're in the market and don't want to wait/can't wait for the (probably) new AppleTV, it's not a terrible way to get it.
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Aug 17, 2017 17:33
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Internet Savant posted:Not so weird if you just assume that providing "Internet" is super cheap and they are using the "double play" bundles to subsidize/ prop up cable subscription numbers. Right but I literally got only local. It's like this: 75Mbps internet only - $75.00/month 75Mbps internet with 10 local only channels - $65.00 I get that they'll get a bunch from people that choose a package bigger that the one I got, it just doesn't make sense to me that they don't exclude my cheap rear end teir.
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Aug 17, 2017 18:43
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Croatoan posted:Right but I literally got only local. It's like this: But if you add TV to the package, then they get to tack on a bunch of extra fees that go along with the TV service, and also depending on the locale, new taxes come into play. So with internet only, your bill may be exactly $75.. (At least in my state of Indiana, there is no sales tax on Internet service) But with TV added, it is likely to read like this: Internet + TV: $65 TV Franchise Fee: $5 TV Regulatory Recovery Fee: $2.50 Digital Adapter/Set top box Fee: $5 Local Broadcast Franchise Fee: $10 State Sales Tax: $7 Actual bill: $94.50 Edit: I was burnt this way before. I thought it sounded like a better deal too, but then failed to realize the additional fees and crap for the TV part wiped out any savings. stevewm fucked around with this message at 18:58 on Aug 17, 2017 |
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Aug 17, 2017 18:56
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Per the press release I just got: All Sinclair (full disclosure: they are my employer) owned stations are coming to Youtube TV once Youtube lights up the market. That's neat. They are also putting Comet on there at some point in the future, I assume once they work something out with MGM. I am not sure how Youtube is handling the broadcast networks but it sounds like if you have a Sinclair owned NBC, ABC, CBS, or Fox affiliate in your market it will be available. Also: ask me anything about Comet and Charge but not ASN, because it's dead. RIP, ASN.
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Aug 17, 2017 19:43
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You should work for a better company.
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Aug 17, 2017 19:57
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 I liked ASN. If I haven't seen this FCS football game, it's new to me!
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Aug 17, 2017 20:03
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I knew that would come up and I don't want to get into it. Content is not part of my job. TheScott2K posted:
I joined ASN last year and we were finally turning things around production wise but the first year's worth of poor management decisions and absolutely terrible contracts are what killed us. Stadium (the joint venture) seems like a much better model and I hope they do well. People want to watch those games but tying them to .2 (or .3s or .4s) SD subchannels makes them very, very hard to find and not really a good experience for the viewer. TheWevel fucked around with this message at 20:11 on Aug 17, 2017 |
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Aug 17, 2017 20:07
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stevewm posted:But if you add TV to the package, then they get to tack on a bunch of extra fees that go along with the TV service, and also depending on the locale, new taxes come into play. Aww gently caress.
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Aug 17, 2017 20:08
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RevKrule posted:DirectTV Now is bringing back the free AppleTV. Hilariously the offer is not available online (must go to a store or call them) and I don't think they're doing the lifetime of top tier for $35 part either. Hmm... Might have to get my wife to sign up for this (I still have the original $35 with free HBO).
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Aug 19, 2017 03:22
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Alright, I could use some advice. I just got a Google Home, and I'm looking for a streaming device that will work with its voice commands. Right now I'm trying to decide between getting a Roku, or Chromecast. If the Chromecast had an interface like the Roku does (and better Amazon Video support), I'd go with that no question. But I don't like the idea of having to download a seperate app to my phone for basically every channel, and then having to have my boyfriend download all the apps on his phone when I'm not home and he wants to watch something. Our computer is across the apartment from the TV, so that would be even more inconvenient. I've heard mixed things about the Roku though. To be honest, most stuff I've heard is fine, but reading through this thread makes it seem like the Goon consensus is that it's sub-par. Basically, I'm just looking for something that's easy to use with multiple users, can be voice controlled by the google home, and works about on the level my PS4 streaming apps do. Any ideas?
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Aug 20, 2017 19:40
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My gut instinct is to first ask if you’ve checked out what voice capabilities there are with Home and both devices. Because, while I may be embarrassingly wrong, my guess is that you’ll probably be disappointed in what you can do with either. At least without something like a Harmony Hub also in the pipe. “Works with its voice commands” could mean a lot of things from (for example) just “pause” to “launch Amazon Video” to “watch season 3 of My Show on Hulu”.
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Aug 20, 2017 20:21
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WithoutTheFezOn posted:My gut instinct is to first ask if you’ve checked out what voice capabilities there are with Home and both devices. Because, while I may be embarrassingly wrong, my guess is that you’ll probably be disappointed in what you can do with either. At least without something like a Harmony Hub also in the pipe. Granted, I've only done about twenty minutes of research so far, but I was under the impression that Chromecast would do the whole "watch stranger things on Netflix" sort of thing. If that's wrong, please let me know.
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Aug 20, 2017 20:45
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I don’t know exact details since we use Amazon Dots, but I *think* that’s possible with Netflix and YouTube only — I’m sure some Home-owning goon can chime in. Mostly just expressing that imo a lot of the available voice command stuff sounds better in theory than in practice, I guess, and don’t want people to set themselves up for disappointment.
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Aug 20, 2017 21:00
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WithoutTheFezOn posted:I don’t know exact details since we use Amazon Dots, but I *think* that’s possible with Netflix and YouTube only — I’m sure some Home-owning goon can chime in. I got the Google Home for free so it's not like I'm out crazy amounts of money. I did just read through the past ten or so pages and saw the Harmony/IFTTT discussion, so I might go that rate if the Harmony ever goes on sale. Currently it's a bit too much for me to justify. But yea if anyone knows for sure let me know. I can't seem to find a solid answer anywhere online.
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Aug 21, 2017 06:38
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Soysaucebeast posted:I got the Google Home for free so it's not like I'm out crazy amounts of money. I did just read through the past ten or so pages and saw the Harmony/IFTTT discussion, so I might go that rate if the Harmony ever goes on sale. Currently it's a bit too much for me to justify. It's less than $80. Having a TV without a Harmony is like saying yeah, I bought a car but they just wanted too much for a steering wheel. I guess I should report back on that, now that you mention it. First off, you guys were right you really can put that thing anywhere and it works. I cannot believe it turns on the TV from inside the cabinet below it. Next, going from the 650 to the Hub has been... okay, I guess. The remote itself is way smaller than I thought it would be and I do miss the backlight and screen but so far, so good. The one source I really used the soft keys for I haven't been using so maybe I'll be more annoyed then but for right now I'm happy. The one thing I didn't think I'd use but use all the time is the Google Home > IFTTT > Harmony thing. I'd say it's pretty much every time I turn the stuff on or off with voice commands and the remote is only used for volume or DVR controlling. Using the "Talk to Harmony" command literally never works though, it turns up the volume every single time no matter what I say. Another thing that's confusing is to make an IFTTT command to turn things off, it would appear you have to pick an activity to end but that's not true. ANY activity selected in that dropdown will end ANY ongoing activity. Either way I'm glad I asked this thread for advice on the Hub. I never would've known the $80 pack was the same same as the $200 one, I never would've realized that IFTTT could be that useful, and I would not have been happy with my overpriced and underperforming purchase I would've made without your help. At $80 it's a no brainer. I mean everyone should have a Harmony anyway but at $80 there isn't a reason not to. Edit: I guess I could answer your original question. I typed up a reply when I first saw it but thought you'd get a higher content one than I had written so I didn't post. I have a very small house, a Google Home in every room and a Chromecast on every TV. I find the Google Home useful in a lot of ways but I think the thing you're specifically asking about just isn't going to be what you're imagining. I don't have my phone next to me but you should see in the Home app different services you can tie to your Assistant. Like WithoutTheFezOn said, I think it's probably just Netflix and YouTube but the thing he said that you really should pay attention to is the "better in theory than in practice" part. Even if you could find the thing you want to watch purely by voice (and I've never even tried but I really doubt you could) controlling it that way would be horrible. In short, you should pick a streaming doohickey based on other criteria other than voice command integration with Google Home. I don't use Chromecasts for what you appear to want to use them for (sitting down and watching a show), I mostly use them to have podcasts or music just playing in multiple rooms all at once which means I don't need a controller or UI. I start either on my MacBook or play a station/playlist with a voice command on Home and just let it do its thing. If I was picking out what episode of what show I was going to watch I'd probably want more of an interface than a Chromecast is going to give me (i.e. none). Does that answer your question or at least help? Like I said, I love my Google Homes but this is just not a task they do well or willingly in my experience. ClassActionFursuit fucked around with this message at 07:25 on Aug 21, 2017 |
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Aug 21, 2017 07:07
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LastInLine posted:Does that answer your question or at least help? Like I said, I love my Google Homes but this is just not a task they do well or willingly in my experience. Actually that helps me a lot! It's given me some stuff to think on, but I appreciate all the input. Thanks guys!
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Aug 21, 2017 08:44
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Wait, you have to use IFTTT? Can’t the Home talk directly to the Harmony Hub to fire activities?
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Aug 21, 2017 09:27
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WithoutTheFezOn posted:Wait, you have to use IFTTT? Can’t the Home talk directly to the Harmony Hub to fire activities? It can but it's really awkward. You have to say "Okay Google talk to the Harmony" as a preface to commands and even then like i was saying I can't get it to do anything except increase the volume. I'll admit I've never tried to use it to do things like Pause because saying "Okay Google talk to the Harmony Pause" is so long and awkward that I'll just use the remote, thanks. At least with IFTTT it works reliably for launching and quitting activities even if I do have to use exact phrasing.
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Aug 21, 2017 15:49
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Kinect is still the best way to control your TV with your voice, which says all you need to know about voice commands.
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Aug 21, 2017 15:51
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TheScott2K posted:Kinect is still the best way to control your TV with your voice, which says all you need to know about voice commands. It sure is! 
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Aug 21, 2017 15:53
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TheScott2K posted:Kinect is still the best way to control your TV with your voice, which says all you need to know about voice commands. I've had a lot of luck using the Apple TV remote, but I do need to use my hands, I guess. But drat, has that made searches easier than having to type out using a tiny remote, like previous Apple TV generations.
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Aug 21, 2017 16:03
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Before I moved, I had TV with a Harmony, a Windows HTPC, a receiver with a ton of HDMI inputs, cable, a Bluray player, and a ton of cables. When I moved I mounted my TV, connected my Chromecast and never bothered to do anything else. The TV regular remote works find with the Chromecast for pausing, volume, etc, and I can shout at the Google Home to do whatever. I don't watch sports, and I have netflix, prime and Plex, so all old A/V stuff sits unused. I'm going to buy a soundbar with Chromecast built in when I find one on sale, but other than that I don't even miss the harmony.
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Aug 21, 2017 16:36
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LastInLine posted:It can but it's really awkward. You have to say "Okay Google talk to the Harmony" as a preface to commands and even then like i was saying I can't get it to do anything except increase the volume. I'll admit I've never tried to use it to do things like Pause because saying "Okay Google talk to the Harmony Pause" is so long and awkward that I'll just use the remote, thanks.
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Aug 21, 2017 17:49
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So not that anyone cares really, but I decided to go with the Chromecast. I got my Google Home today and after spending a few hours just playing with it, I decided to get the Chromecast to keep up with the ease of voice commands. I really only played around with Netflix, Sling, Spotify and YouTube, but I can launch them, pause, resume, stop, and play random playlists verbally. That's honestly good enough for me. It's weird not having a remote or my PS4 controller to control things, but I'll adjust. I honestly don't like Sling much though. I figured for a paid service there would be minimal (if any) commercials, but there were way more than I expected. It's been about six years since I've had cable but have there always been that many advertisements in a show? But that coupled with them not having a good on demand selection means I basically cancelled my subscription about two hours after signing up.
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Aug 23, 2017 08:47
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Soysaucebeast posted:So not that anyone cares really, but I decided to go with the Chromecast. I got my Google Home today and after spending a few hours just playing with it, I decided to get the Chromecast to keep up with the ease of voice commands. I really only played around with Netflix, Sling, Spotify and YouTube, but I can launch them, pause, resume, stop, and play random playlists verbally. That's honestly good enough for me. It's weird not having a remote or my PS4 controller to control things, but I'll adjust. If your TV supports CEC, which most do, the TV or receiver remote can still pause/resume/ff/rew the Chromecast, since it also supports CEC.
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Aug 23, 2017 09:03
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Soysaucebeast posted:So not that anyone cares really, but I decided to go with the Chromecast. I got my Google Home today and after spending a few hours just playing with it, I decided to get the Chromecast to keep up with the ease of voice commands. I really only played around with Netflix, Sling, Spotify and YouTube, but I can launch them, pause, resume, stop, and play random playlists verbally. That's honestly good enough for me. It's weird not having a remote or my PS4 controller to control things, but I'll adjust. Commercials have been increasing over the years. Not that you were watching this, but I read a while back that without commercials, an episode of Big Bang Theory is about 18 minutes. Which is loving crazy. Not all shows are that bad. But it's bad all over. It's why, if I watch any network shows, it's on Hulu the next day, because I have the ad free Hulu.
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Aug 23, 2017 15:28
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Yeah my rule of thumb always used to be around 29 mins for a BBC half hour, 25 for a UK commercial tv half hour, and 22 for a US one. Always Sunny has some frighteningly short episodes too as well from memory. I once put Colbert on to catch a guest I wanted to see, and in one 13 minute timeslot there was literally 2 minutes of content. It was insane.
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Aug 23, 2017 16:39
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thrawn527 posted:Commercials have been increasing over the years. Not that you were watching this, but I read a while back that without commercials, an episode of Big Bang Theory is about 18 minutes. Which is loving crazy. Some reruns of old shows are even being broadcast faster than originally aired to fit more commercial time in.
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Aug 23, 2017 20:18
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Neon Belly posted:Some reruns of old shows are even being broadcast faster than originally aired to fit more commercial time in. Yeah, which is mainly noticeable by a slightly higher pitch in the actors. Rachel in Friends on TV Land repeats is the most notable example I've seen. She sounds like a chipmunk, way more than if you watch on Netflix.
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Aug 23, 2017 20:37
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Due to NTSC > PAL conversion, US shows shown in Europe/Australia have the same level of discomfort. Malcom in the Middle was always really evident, due to the kids having already high pitched voices.
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Aug 23, 2017 20:46
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It's crazy that we still have to deal with this stuff in the day and age of digital displays. Let's tie ourselves to the cycle of AC power even though everything runs on DC now and theatrical films are 24fps!
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Aug 23, 2017 20:53
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Can anyone here tell me if the YouTube app on Roku Premiere and above can do 1080p60 on supported videos? I'm currently on the current gen Amazon Fire TV and I'm like 95% happy with it for the most part but I watch YouTube on the daily and it can't do 1080p60. A picture of the stats for nerds window would be really beneficial.
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Aug 23, 2017 23:50
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Talk me out of buying a Shield TV...I like shiny new things too much I have a KS8000/XBone S/Roku 3/Home Theater 5.1.2 Atmos Setup setup right now, and have generally been using the TV apps because they worked good at one time and have 4k/HDR...now they're starting to a get a little long in the tooth so I end up switching to the apps on the non 4k Roku 3 (because most stuff isn't even in 4k anyways) when they start acting up. Now I see most of the apps on the XBox One S support 4k/HDR (Amazon,Netflix, VUDU) but is missing Google Play which I occasionally use. Basically does the Shield work better than the XBox One S device; or is it just going to be a glorified Kodi/Google Play machine over what I already have? I do have a gaming PC with an Nvidia card so I guess I could do that in home streaming thing if it works worth a poo poo...
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If you have an Xbox One S and don't have a very specific codec-oriented reason to need a Shield (or a desire to have your STB serve as your Plex server), just use the Xbox One S. If you have Google Play purchases you can play them through the Youtube app or MyTube. Failing that, put a Chromecast in the HDMI passthru.
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