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VulgarandStupid
Aug 5, 2003
I AM, AND ALWAYS WILL BE, UNFUCKABLE AND A TOTAL DISAPPOINTMENT TO EVERYONE. DAE WANNA CUM PLAY WITH ME!?




Evilreaver posted:

Just had a game where my teammate, with "two" alive, searched the play area for a minute before the play area collapsed again to zero and killed him. GOTY :mad:

He was underground.

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Hackan Slash
May 31, 2007
Hit it until it's not a problem anymore

Evilreaver posted:

Just had a game where my teammate, with "two" alive, searched the play area for a minute before the play area collapsed again to zero and killed him. GOTY :mad:

I wish the final circle was big enough for one person to stand in, to avoid it coming down to whoever has more medkits.

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

They can fight us
But they'll never Beetus

Hackan Slash posted:

I wish the final circle was big enough for one person to stand in, to avoid it coming down to whoever has more medkits.

If it ended on the bunkers then, you'd have a situation where two people could take it to a stalemate. One on top of the bunker and one in it. You're essentially looking for a solution to a problem that doesn't exist considering how little that happens in a typical game with people that aren't in the top .01% mmr wise.

Orv
May 4, 2011

Evilreaver posted:

Just had a game where my teammate, with "two" alive, searched the play area for a minute before the play area collapsed again to zero and killed him. GOTY :mad:


VulgarandStupid posted:

He was underground.

Yeah, this happened to one of our guys yesterday. There's a water plane underneath the whole map, and you can swim from one end to the other. It's almost impossible for the swimming person to win because when the final collapse comes they move so much slower than the people on the surface and can't be running boosts, but it needs to be addressed.

Orv fucked around with this message at 05:24 on Aug 14, 2017

Evilreaver
Feb 26, 2007

GEORGE IS GETTIN' AUGMENTED!
Dinosaur Gum

VulgarandStupid posted:

He was underground.


Nah

Edit: Unless there's a lot more underground than I thought

There was exactly enough room to squeak around that little wall into the courtyard, grenade the guy in the shack, and then spend 45 sec scouring the area for nobody.


VVV Weak VVV

Evilreaver fucked around with this message at 05:33 on Aug 14, 2017

Bill Barber
Aug 26, 2015

Hot Rope Guy

Evilreaver posted:

Edit: Unless there's a lot more underground than I thought
You can glitch to swim anywhere underground quite easily.

Verviticus
Mar 13, 2006

I'm just a total piece of shit and I'm not sure why I keep posting on this site. Christ, I have spent years with idiots giving me bad advice about online dating and haven't noticed that the thread I'm in selects for people that can't talk to people worth a damn.
they cant use first aid if they're swimming so you should probably have the edge if you have a first aid kit, no?

Orv
May 4, 2011

Verviticus posted:

they cant use first aid if they're swimming so you should probably have the edge if you have a first aid kit, no?

You die faster than you can kit but second tier or better boost will let you survive one more tick than someone underwater.

E: I guess you could time the kit really well, but it'd be real close.

CitizenKain
May 27, 2001

That was Gary Cooper, asshole.

Nap Ghost
Playing FPP mode, and I ran into an odd thing. I was near the blue wall and aiming at someone running at me, and the game mirror imaged the person running towards me. I'd never seen that happen before, and of course it didn't do that for the guy shooting at me.

tehinternet
Feb 14, 2005

Semantically, "you" is both singular and plural, though syntactically it is always plural. It always takes a verb form that originally marked the word as plural.

Also, there is no plural when the context is an argument with an individual rather than a group. Somfin shouldn't put words in my mouth.

underage at the vape shop posted:

kids have no concept of money + gambling is addictive + kids have no impulse control

nah

Depends on what you mean with kids. If they're under 14, then they shouldn't have access to money from places other than their parents, right? If they're older and they have access to money, then they probably have a job and have to make all sorts of decisions (don't spend all my money on crates in a game, don't get addicted to drugs, don't gently caress the wrong person and get an STI). I'm sorry that I don't see a cash grab by a company who's made an inexpensive game as a serious moral threat, or at least a serious threat that compares to the choices kids that age already have to make.

Will some kids get addicted to gambling from the loot crates? Maybe? Possibly? There's already a poo poo ton of other things that they can blow money on that are addictive -and many better options for gambling too. I'm not seeing the moral peril -relative to any of the other poo poo that kids can do or get addicted to- from $2.50 loot crates in a $30 video game. Heroin or craps this ain't.

Shima Honnou
Dec 1, 2010

The Once And Future King Of Dicetroit

College Slice
Doesn't take but five seconds to slip into mom's purse.

BBJoey
Oct 31, 2012

tehinternet posted:

Will some kids get addicted to gambling from the loot crates? Maybe? Possibly? There's already a poo poo ton of other things that they can blow money on that are addictive -and many better options for gambling too. I'm not seeing the moral peril -relative to any of the other poo poo that kids can do or get addicted to- from $2.50 loot crates in a $30 video game. Heroin or craps this ain't.
how do you keep producing such excellent posts

abigserve
Sep 13, 2009

this is a better avatar than what I had before
if you want to complain about gambling in kids attack the sports gambling agencies running commercials in primetime or hell take aim at all the dads out there talking about putting a tenner down on the footy every weekend. Gambling is a disease but crates are like the most innocuous and easy-to-avoid form there is (hint: don't give your kids a debit card or tie one to your steam account)

tehinternet
Feb 14, 2005

Semantically, "you" is both singular and plural, though syntactically it is always plural. It always takes a verb form that originally marked the word as plural.

Also, there is no plural when the context is an argument with an individual rather than a group. Somfin shouldn't put words in my mouth.

BBJoey posted:

how do you keep producing such excellent posts

Great contribution, really making a great point. 5/5, loot crates are a danger for ARE CHILDREN!!!1

abigserve posted:

if you want to complain about gambling in kids attack the sports gambling agencies running commercials in primetime or hell take aim at all the dads out there talking about putting a tenner down on the footy every weekend. Gambling is a disease but crates are like the most innocuous and easy-to-avoid form there is (hint: don't give your kids a debit card or tie one to your steam account)

Exactly. This post could be about a million other things that kids are exposed to. Loot crates are a mile down the list, you guys sound like people who cry about weed being a gateway drug.

E:

Shima Honnou posted:

Doesn't take but five seconds to slip into mom's purse.

If a kid is stealing mom's debit card, they've already got a much bigger moral problem than gambling on a $2.50 loot crate.

tehinternet fucked around with this message at 07:27 on Aug 14, 2017

Taffer
Oct 15, 2010


If you want to complain about gambling in games, mobile games that force you to buy stuff to progress (or grind for countless hours) are way worse than games that let you buy some shiny clothes.

Jerkface
May 21, 2001

HOW DOES IT FEEL TO BE DEAD, MOTHERFUCKER?

Fallen Rib

abigserve posted:

if you want to complain about gambling in kids attack the sports gambling agencies running commercials in primetime or hell take aim at all the dads out there talking about putting a tenner down on the footy every weekend. Gambling is a disease but crates are like the most innocuous and easy-to-avoid form there is (hint: don't give your kids a debit card or tie one to your steam account)

Mobile gaming & F2P gaming are things that many kids will participate in, likely more than watching TV with ads on it or listening to a Dad :) Even if you want to discount the gambling training aspect of it, systems like this are terrible and worsen society. You know who mobile gaming companies bring in to setup systems like this? The same people who design casino games, slots, & lotteries. There are many, many adults out there addicted to this poo poo and its pretty bad.

They make the purchasing easy to do, add uncertainty to the results of your purchase, and make the amount low enough that it is deceptive. $2.50 doesn't sound like much but when you have a 1/100 chance of getting what you actually want you get people spending tons of money without realizing it. I don't know if that is better or worse than the people who will spend tons of money it and realize they are doing it.

Its a lovely system. Sucks that its in this game, which is otherwise great.

BBJoey
Oct 31, 2012

tehinternet posted:

Exactly. This post could be about a million other things that kids are exposed to. Loot crates are a mile down the list, you guys sound like people who cry about weed being a gateway drug.
there are starving children in africa, why should we care about normalising gambling in video games. thank you, wise poster.

Maluco Marinero
Jan 18, 2001

Damn that's a
fine elephant.
Yes, it's small potatoes compared to many other manifestations of gambling, however this is gambling that doesn't disclose odds, is not restricted in age usage, and is a perfect gateway to the documented addictive behaviours that lead to the gambling complex western society is propping up.

We can complain about the poker halls and the massive gambling advertising presence too y'know, it's just concerning that vidya games, entertainment products primarily targeted at children, have completely unregulated forms of gambling (or if you wanna get pedantic, purchases with randomised results).

Zo
Feb 22, 2005

LIKE A FOX

Orv posted:

You die faster than you can kit but second tier or better boost will let you survive one more tick than someone underwater.

E: I guess you could time the kit really well, but it'd be real close.

what you do is full boost, let the wall hit you once while it's moving toward zero, then rush to the center (you run way faster than the wall moves) and kit. plenty of time to spare.

if you have a friend you can ask him to pop you once with a pistol or something but then you gotta time it well (can't do it in advance because you're at full boost and it'll just heal up)

Verviticus
Mar 13, 2006

I'm just a total piece of shit and I'm not sure why I keep posting on this site. Christ, I have spent years with idiots giving me bad advice about online dating and haven't noticed that the thread I'm in selects for people that can't talk to people worth a damn.
or just step out of the zone for three ticks and wait in the centre, hit boosts at 15 or whatever

DrGreatJob
Oct 3, 2006

we fuck each other very well and we have a lot of energy from eating plantfoods

Harry Potter on Ice posted:

haha probably. What a stupid thing to keep hidden

yeah, it's dumb. i don't know why anyone would care, though. It's not like changing your sensitivity to his sensitivity is going to make you a god. the only thing that makes you a god is how many stream snipers you get banned.

tehinternet
Feb 14, 2005

Semantically, "you" is both singular and plural, though syntactically it is always plural. It always takes a verb form that originally marked the word as plural.

Also, there is no plural when the context is an argument with an individual rather than a group. Somfin shouldn't put words in my mouth.

BBJoey posted:

there are starving children in africa, why should we care about normalising gambling in video games. thank you, wise poster.

You're such a poo poo poster -at least be funny if you're going to post worthless posts. I guess you're at least disingenuously representing my argument now?

Maluco Marinero posted:

Yes, it's small potatoes compared to many other manifestations of gambling, however this is gambling that doesn't disclose odds, is not restricted in age usage, and is a perfect gateway to the documented addictive behaviours that lead to the gambling complex western society is propping up.

We can complain about the poker halls and the massive gambling advertising presence too y'know, it's just concerning that vidya games, entertainment products primarily targeted at children, have completely unregulated forms of gambling (or if you wanna get pedantic, purchases with randomised results).

This is a good post that makes good and fair points. I still might not agree that it's a problem that you guys do, but I can at least respect the position now (not that that matters, but still, his argument holds water). Take notes, BBJoey! Maybe next time you can be less of an unfunny, zero content poster!

Studio
Jan 15, 2008



is your avatar a mudkip tubgirling itself?

The Mash
Feb 17, 2007

You have to say I can open my presents

tehinternet posted:

You're such a poo poo poster -at least be funny if you're going to post worthless posts. I guess you're at least disingenuously representing my argument now?


This is a good post that makes good and fair points. I still might not agree that it's a problem that you guys do, but I can at least respect the position now (not that that matters, but still, his argument holds water). Take notes, BBJoey! Maybe next time you can be less of an unfunny, zero content poster!

Yo shut the hell up, you're the one posting garbage. Noone owes you a detailed explanation of basic concepts that have been covered in the thread ten times over.


For content:

The devs could have easily made each special outfit set $2.50 to purchase outright and kept the boxes free and with a random chance to have any one piece of any outfit. People would still buy multiple outfits to mix-and-match or based on what map they were playing or whatever.

League of Legends have a setup pretty close to that and they're literally printing money (2015 numbers have it at 8 times the revenue of CS:GO and the game itself is F2P)

Redundant
Sep 24, 2011

Even robots have feelings!

tehinternet posted:

You're such a poo poo poster
:ironicat:

Ice Fist
Jun 20, 2012

^^ Please send feedback to beefstache911@hotmail.com, this is not a joke that 'stache is the real deal. Serious assessments only. ^^

:yikes:

tehinternet
Feb 14, 2005

Semantically, "you" is both singular and plural, though syntactically it is always plural. It always takes a verb form that originally marked the word as plural.

Also, there is no plural when the context is an argument with an individual rather than a group. Somfin shouldn't put words in my mouth.

The Mash posted:

Yo shut the hell up, you're the one posting garbage. Noone owes you a detailed explanation of basic concepts that have been covered in the thread ten times over.


For content:

The devs could have easily made each special outfit set $2.50 to purchase outright and kept the boxes free and with a random chance to have any one piece of any outfit. People would still buy multiple outfits to mix-and-match or based on what map they were playing or whatever.

League of Legends have a setup pretty close to that and they're literally printing money (2015 numbers have it at 8 times the revenue of CS:GO and the game itself is F2P)

Truly, I'm posting garbage when I'm explaining why I think what I do -in good faith- which is then responded to with useless one liners from shitposters who have never been involved with goons who actually play this game.

Is expecting parents to be involved enough to keep their kids from getting addicted to "gambling loot crates" wrong? Honest to loving Christ I cannot believe that's a sentence I've actually written now. Are we going to start banning this game for encouraging violent behavior? Are we going to be upset that this game takes place on a Soviet island and maligns Russia? Because each of those are as crazy as the opinion that loot crates will get people addicted to gambling.

Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Dec 22, 2005

GET LOSE, YOU CAN'T COMPARE WITH MY POWERS
I think the idea that the game encourages violence is a lot more tenuous than the one where having a literal lottery for $300 game clothes encourages gambling because that's literally what it is. If I had a button to make the world how I want it, it certainly would not be legal - it's a downright parasitic business model that disproportionately hurts those least able to see it for what it is.

Chard
Aug 24, 2010




Studio posted:

is your avatar a mudkip tubgirling itself?

I hate that you've made me look enough to see this

tehinternet
Feb 14, 2005

Semantically, "you" is both singular and plural, though syntactically it is always plural. It always takes a verb form that originally marked the word as plural.

Also, there is no plural when the context is an argument with an individual rather than a group. Somfin shouldn't put words in my mouth.

Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:

I think the idea that the game encourages violence is a lot more tenuous than the one where having a literal lottery for $300 game clothes encourages gambling because that's literally what it is. If I had a button to make the world how I want it, it certainly would not be legal - it's a downright parasitic business model that disproportionately hurts those least able to see it for what it is.

That's a fair position. I can see what you're saying and can respect that.

Point taken, thanks for being a decent person about it rather than a goon.

odiv
Jan 12, 2003

Friend of mine with a better PC was trying to play this with me over the weekend and kept having problems. I asked him if he had shut down everything else that was running and he said yeah, but it turns out his gaming machine is also his plex server and when he plays video games his wife watches TV on it. Yeah, I'd say transcoding and streaming video could put a little bit of a crimp in your game performance.

mechaet
Jan 4, 2013

Insufferable measure of firewood

odiv posted:

Friend of mine with a better PC was trying to play this with me over the weekend and kept having problems. I asked him if he had shut down everything else that was running and he said yeah, but it turns out his gaming machine is also his plex server and when he plays video games his wife watches TV on it. Yeah, I'd say transcoding and streaming video could put a little bit of a crimp in your game performance.

This is the only area I've found the Ryzen to be better than the i7 at. Plex burbles right along, pubg is unaffected.

Mister Fister
May 17, 2008

D&D: HASBARA SQUAD
KILL-GORE


I love the smell of dead Palestinians in the morning.
You know, one time we had Gaza bombed for 26 days
(and counting!)

odiv posted:

Friend of mine with a better PC was trying to play this with me over the weekend and kept having problems. I asked him if he had shut down everything else that was running and he said yeah, but it turns out his gaming machine is also his plex server and when he plays video games his wife watches TV on it. Yeah, I'd say transcoding and streaming video could put a little bit of a crimp in your game performance.

So shutting down everything is a necessary step for this game? I noticed my computer locked up when i had like 70 chrome pages open + playing pubg. Doesn't happen with overwatch. I have 16 GB ram too. (Edit: i5-2500k cpu oc'd to 4.2 ghz for reference)

Hockles
Dec 25, 2007

Resident of Camp Blood
Crystal Lake

Mister Fister posted:

So shutting down everything is a necessary step for this game? I noticed my computer locked up when i had like 70 chrome pages open + playing pubg. Doesn't happen with overwatch. I have 16 GB ram too. (Edit: i5-2500k cpu oc'd to 4.2 ghz for reference)

There is some memory leak issues, I believe. When I leave Firefox on in the background, my game will crash.

odiv
Jan 12, 2003

Mister Fister posted:

So shutting down everything is a necessary step for this game?
I do that because my PC isn't super. I asked him if he did that because if you're having trouble with a game it's not a bad first thing to check. :shrug:

Transcoding/streaming can be pretty demanding, so I was a bit surprised, is all.

lohli
Jun 30, 2008

tehinternet posted:

Truly, I'm posting garbage when I'm explaining why I think what I do -in good faith- which is then responded to with useless one liners from shitposters who have never been involved with goons who actually play this game.

Is expecting parents to be involved enough to keep their kids from getting addicted to "gambling loot crates" wrong? Honest to loving Christ I cannot believe that's a sentence I've actually written now. Are we going to start banning this game for encouraging violent behavior? Are we going to be upset that this game takes place on a Soviet island and maligns Russia? Because each of those are as crazy as the opinion that loot crates will get people addicted to gambling.

These sorts of payment models are usually supported by dysfunctional people who can't help but spend a poo poo ton of money, and if you look at what happened with TF2 and CS:GO you had multiple levels of gambling with people having to pay for a chance at a hat/skin and then another explicit culture of gambling with all the sites that let people bet their hats.

I don't really have a problem with random rewards for special events like contributing to a tournament prize pool or whatever as long as the available stuff is all sort of worth it, I think there's a meaningful difference between the available rewards all being quite desirable and there being a 99% chance that you're going to get another set of grey pants, and I think that's a good place to draw the line between gambling and a blind goody-bag.
Edit:

Mister Fister posted:

So shutting down everything is a necessary step for this game? I noticed my computer locked up when i had like 70 chrome pages open + playing pubg. Doesn't happen with overwatch. I have 16 GB ram too. (Edit: i5-2500k cpu oc'd to 4.2 ghz for reference)

You don't need to shut everything down but in that guy's case he shouldn't expect to be able to transcode video in real time without affecting gameplay unless he's got a cpu with hella cores. But people have said that upgrading from 8-16GB fixed some of their performance problems and 70 tabs is a lot, chrome is using about 1GB for me with only about a dozen open, so I wouldn't be surprised if freeing up some of that memory helps you out.

You could always just monitor ram usage while you're playing and see if that's the problem though.

lohli fucked around with this message at 16:34 on Aug 14, 2017

Danyull
Jan 16, 2011

Is there a bug that stops you from being able to run, or maybe some button I'm fat fingering to cause it? It seems to happen every couple games now where I get stuck walking at normal speed. It seems to randomly fix itself after a minute or so, but when it happens at 12 left with two of my teammates downed and shots flying over my head it kind of fucks me.

Hockles
Dec 25, 2007

Resident of Camp Blood
Crystal Lake

Danyull posted:

Is there a bug that stops you from being able to run, or maybe some button I'm fat fingering to cause it? It seems to happen every couple games now where I get stuck walking at normal speed. It seems to randomly fix itself after a minute or so, but when it happens at 12 left with two of my teammates downed and shots flying over my head it kind of fucks me.

Did you just try to hold your breath while shooting at someone? If you empty your lungs, you have no air to sprint with. If it's not that, then I don't know.

Kamikaze Raider
Sep 28, 2001

lohli posted:

These sorts of payment models are usually supported by dysfunctional people who can't help but spend a poo poo ton of money, and if you look at what happened with TF2 and CS:GO you had multiple levels of gambling with people having to pay for a chance at a hat/skin and then another explicit culture of gambling with all the sites that let people bet their hats.

I don't really have a problem with random rewards for special events like contributing to a tournament prize pool or whatever as long as the available stuff is all sort of worth it, I think there's a meaningful difference between the available rewards all being quite desirable and there being a 99% chance that you're going to get another set of grey pants, and I think that's a good place to draw the line between gambling and a blind goody-bag.

It's weird to see all these people get worked up and upset about "gambling" loot boxes when baseball cards, MTG, pokemon, etc. have been around for longer than video games have even been a thing, and I don't recall ever seeing many people get this bent out of shape about those over the years.

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lohli
Jun 30, 2008

Hockles posted:

Did you just try to hold your breath while shooting at someone? If you empty your lungs, you have no air to sprint with. If it's not that, then I don't know.

Oh my god I had no idea holding breath was a thing in this game.

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