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punk rebel ecks posted:Why the gently caress do people keep bringing up what it means to be "American"? The reason why I don't support Nazis and authoritarianism isn't because I see myself as a "real American", it's because I am not a lovely human being. attempts to co-opt right-wing arguments and messaging in order to appeal to the other side of the aisle. in this case, by making it a matter of nationalism or patriotism rather than basic human decency the Dems try that all the time, and it never works
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Calibanibal posted:dont be so hard on urself LOL haha
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Nationalism should be opposed because you don't need to die decency to a national identity.
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zegermans posted:The town I currently live in has 3200 people. I was in a 10k pop 97% white town for a while, and while I know that it would all be trashpile garbage that votes for Trump, I know they'd also vote for someone that actually improved their quality of life. I see xenophobia and racism more as the default when there's nothing better on the table.
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Notorious R.I.M. posted:I was in a 10k pop 97% white town for a while, and while I know that it would all be trashpile garbage that votes for Trump, I know they'd also vote for someone that actually improved their quality of life. and here comes the hillary defenders! 
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what's always telling in these sorts of tweets is that you can kind of see why an israeli conservative would think that given that the left tends to be pro-palestine, but they exclusively present examples of alt-right discourse on the topic instead of leftist discussion and then handwave saying they're the same instead of presenting evidence of them being the same (because there is none)
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LGD posted:wrong again, the dude officially in charge of the BLM is this guy: I thought it was Nick Mullen.
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Jazerus posted:what's always telling in these sorts of tweets is that you can kind of see why an israeli conservative would think that given that the left tends to be pro-palestine, but they exclusively present examples of alt-right discourse on the topic instead of leftist discussion and then handwave saying they're the same instead of presenting evidence of them being the same (because there is none) There's always one or two antisemites on the Left that they'll pick out as an example, and then compare them to the far right's worst thought leaders, but the actual discourse within the Left and Right on Jews couldn't be more different. Leftists are constantly condemning antisemitism while it's all the far right ever talks about. It's conflating trickles with water falls. Bear Retrieval Unit posted:I thought it was Nick Mullen. You're thinking of the DSA.
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Notorious R.I.M. posted:I was in a 10k pop 97% white town for a while, and while I know that it would all be trashpile garbage that votes for Trump, I know they'd also vote for someone that actually improved their quality of life. in my experience they're equally willing to vote for someone who promises to bring everyone else's bar down to their imagined level.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:There's always one or two antisemites on the Left that they'll pick out as an example, and then compare them to the far right's worst thought leaders, but the actual discourse within the Left and Right on Jews couldn't be more different. Leftists are constantly condemning antisemitism while it's all the far right ever talks about. It's conflating trickles with water falls. i wasnt old enough to remember the south africa fight but i bet people who supported the end of apartheid were accused of supporting boerish genocide
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Al! posted:i wasnt old enough to remember the south africa fight but i bet people who supported the end of apartheid were accused of supporting boerish genocide They still act like black on white crime in SA is a white genocide.
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Al! posted:i wasnt old enough to remember the south africa fight but i bet people who supported the end of apartheid were accused of supporting boerish genocide you can't commit genocide against a fake ethnic group. Boers don't exist, dutch and british colonialists exist.
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zegermans posted:you can't commit genocide against a fake ethnic group. Boers don't exist, dutch and british colonialists exist. reddit jokes about white south africans and african americans etc. etc.
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zegermans posted:The town I currently live in has 3200 people. https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/wired-success/201408/is-there-limit-the-friendships-we-can-maintain 🤔
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lol http://rare.us/rare-news/across-the-u-s-a/trump-supporters-are-planning-the-mother-of-all-rallies-in-d-c-theres-just-one-problem/ quote:On Sept. 16, the Mother of All Rallies will descend on Washington, D.C., bathing the nation’s capital in red “Make America Great Again” hats and the rumble of probably more than a few motorcycles. The event is organized by Trump supporters who, according the website they’ve set up, are hoping to “send a message to congress the media and the world.” It’s being billed as an “all day and night rally for American culture,” and you’re urged to attend if “you believe in the founding fathers idea of America. If you believe we are the greatest country to ever exist.”
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Majorian posted:Apologies if this was already posted (I didn't see it), but Kos be Kos-ing: turns out "Crashing the Gate" was an unintentionally apt title for his old book getting inside the Dem establishment was the main thing he and a lot of the Bush-era netroots really wanted. yeah, they were against the Iraq war, which was obviously a Very Big Issue at the time, but one issue doesn't substitute for an actual, competing vision of politics
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Al! posted:i wasnt old enough to remember the south africa fight but i bet people who supported the end of apartheid were accused of supporting boerish genocide p much yeah
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Bernie:] come on youse peepul i aint getting young-*gesticulates*er, it is time to have garanteed helthcaar for awl 
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Lmao the Top Dog hog dog restaurant that the outed nazi worked at is located in Berkeley and run by outspoken libertarians, the walls inside are covered with libertarian leaflets and articles and sundry propaganda. Who could have foreseen that a white nationalist would find a home among libertarians....
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Vox Nihili posted:
the actions are not supported by Top Dog, but like everyone should be able to do what they like tbh -Top Dog, LLC
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Agnosticnixie posted:FWIW the wonks have been trying to emulate the tea party since the tea party happened. Throughout occupy there were probably 3 or 4 demoratic PACs that tried very hard to shape it into a democratic tea party and that was like a year or two after the birth of the Tea Party. too bad they didnt actually address any causes of ows! they were in bed with the banks we were railing against
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Vox Nihili posted:
top dog does NOT wish to create joinder —the mgmt, top dog
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SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:Well top dog is sort of endorsing everyone's right to ostracize the poo poo out Nazis Yeah. It's essentially: Top Dog has become aware that employee 0014 has become a substantial material liability to the company due to his political leanings. In order to maximize profit, his employment has been terminated. We support all beliefs except those which cost us money.
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i'm very angry a hot dog place didn't put out a harsh enough criticism of white nationalism
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Concerned Citizen posted:i'm very angry a hot dog place didn't put out a harsh enough criticism of white nationalism goondolances
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The Muppets On PCP posted:lol they gonna get juggalowned 
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Studio posted:my face when firing a nazi holy gently caress they stole my cartoon alter ego, porkpie dickins
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