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SHY NUDIST GRRL
Feb 15, 2011

Communism will help more white people than anyone else. Any equal measures unfairly provide less to minority populations just because there's less of them. Democracy is truly the tyranny of the mob.

zegermans posted:

I can't read "I didn't ask for this" without instantly switching to Adam Jensen in my head

Going from all caps to not for that line is so on the nose to break into the Jensen voice too

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Business Gorillas
Mar 11, 2009

:harambe:



Potato Salad posted:

What are your thoughts on putting the GOP to the wall if it meant your family got affordable and subsidized healthcare regardless of what some lovely state legislature wanted to intentionally hamstring?

What a stupid question to ask in the "The CHUDs are killing themselves and it fuckin owns" thread

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.

Business Gorillas posted:

What a stupid question to ask in the "The CHUDs are killing themselves and it fuckin owns" thread

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.
My main point is that the majority of Dem politicians do not support single payer and if you're not willing to make that consolation then you're my political enemy. And I won't work with those ghouls at all.

The liberals destroyed the left in this country we aren't allies and it's bullshit to pretend we need these people after November 8 BTTFO

H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse
Slippery Tilde
https://twitter.com/newcreationron/status/879851198161068032

Dixie Cretin Seaman
Jan 22, 2008

all hat and one catte
Hot Rope Guy

Dreddout posted:

My main point is that the majority of Dem politicians do not support single payer and if you're not willing to make that consolation then you're my political enemy. And I won't work with those ghouls at all.

The liberals destroyed the left in this country we aren't allies and it's bullshit to pretend we need these people after November 8 BTTFO

i don't really have any more polite ways to explain this. you know why Dem politicians are scared of targeting campaigns to young left-wing voters? because you dumbfucks consistently gently caress them over by not showing up to vote while the old racist grandpas watching fox news do nothing but vote vote vote every election for the worst assholes imaginable, and if you can't count on some goodwill support from your base you have to move to the center. it's not a grand conspiracy, it's not "some game theory". it's basic logic. and it never loving ends bc every 8 years its another cohort of college kids who think they know better just as the last one finally learned their lesson.

in 2000, holier-than-thou "Green Party" dipshits voted a protest vote in a swing state and got us 8 years of a torturing warmonger texas oilman instead of the candidate who is now famous for his environmental advocacy

in 2010, after 2 years of unprecedented legislative accomplishments, including crucial government stimulus spending, new financial regulations and a new CFPB, and the ACA, which is the largest new government entitlement program in 70 years, the young left-wing voters that elected obama sat out the midterm elections like they always loving do, grinding all progress to a halt, handing the House to the loving tea party, for 6 goddamned years of nothing but spending cuts and debt limit bullshit. the political narrative became that Dems lost bc they pushed a left-wing agenda down Americans' throats, which is bullshit, but after sticking their neck out and getting hosed, yeah, you tend to be a bit of a pussy about pushing a bold agenda again. we were 1 loving vote in the senate away from single payer in the form of a public option. joe lieberman was the holdout, and he wasn't even a loving democrat by then, he supported mccain. one of the 60 senate votes for healthcare loving dropped dead before the final vote and the dem base once again slept through the special election and let him be replaced by a shithead GOPer, in loving massachusetts of all places. and the dems still found a way to push things through. don't talk to me about what the majority of Dems support like you know poo poo.

hillary clinton is a lovely candidate? sure, that's how the upstart obama beat her in the 2008 primaries. so what's bernie's excuse?
bernie's the most popular national politician you say? he has yet to match the 2012 favorability ratings of...hillary clinton. funny how a slogging campaign and a bunch of ratfuck dirty tricks can do that. bernie hasn't been tested like that. you think trump would've played nice with the socialist?

we want the same ends. if you prove you can consistently show up, organize, and win some national elections, i guarantee Dem politicians will fall over themselves championing single payer for your votes.

got any sevens
Feb 9, 2013

by Cyrano4747
lol wrong

SHY NUDIST GRRL
Feb 15, 2011

Communism will help more white people than anyone else. Any equal measures unfairly provide less to minority populations just because there's less of them. Democracy is truly the tyranny of the mob.

When people don't show up to vote it's because they weren't really offered anything

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


Because God Forbid politicians try to make themselves appealing.

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler

SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:

When people don't show up to vote it's because they weren't really offered anything

damning critique of the bernie sanders campaign

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler
historical statistics show that young people never vote at rates as high as any other older age group. this has been true for decades upon decades

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



boy that sure is a great example of Trump voters getting owned by their past selves

hey

waaaait a second :thunk:

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler

Epic High Five posted:

boy that sure is a great example of Trump voters getting owned by their past selves

hey

waaaait a second :thunk:

sorry

imagine i posted that article about that dude who said "idk why i ever opposed obamacare, there must've been some black magic involved" and used the actual words "black magic" i think

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



logikv9 posted:

sorry

imagine i posted that article about that dude who said "idk why i ever opposed obamacare, there must've been some black magic involved" and used the actual words "black magic" i think

was mostly directed at Dixie for once again derailing massively

this is a thread for petty viciousness, anything more than 3 sentences is probably far surplus to requirements and is frankly suspicious

Dixie Cretin Seaman
Jan 22, 2008

all hat and one catte
Hot Rope Guy
sorry EHF, i saw some darn kids on my lawn and i stroked out there for a minute. feel free to get me probated if i slip up again, it's not accomplishing anything anyway

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.

Dixie Cretin Seaman posted:

i don't really have any more polite ways to explain this. you know why Dem politicians are scared of targeting campaigns to young left-wing voters? because you dumbfucks consistently gently caress them over by not showing up to vote while the old racist grandpas watching fox news do nothing but vote vote vote every election for the worst assholes imaginable, and if you can't count on some goodwill support from your base you have to move to the center. it's not a grand conspiracy, it's not "some game theory". it's basic logic. and it never loving ends bc every 8 years its another cohort of college kids who think they know better just as the last one finally learned their lesson.

in 2000, holier-than-thou "Green Party" dipshits voted a protest vote in a swing state and got us 8 years of a torturing warmonger texas oilman instead of the candidate who is now famous for his environmental advocacy

in 2010, after 2 years of unprecedented legislative accomplishments, including crucial government stimulus spending, new financial regulations and a new CFPB, and the ACA, which is the largest new government entitlement program in 70 years, the young left-wing voters that elected obama sat out the midterm elections like they always loving do, grinding all progress to a halt, handing the House to the loving tea party, for 6 goddamned years of nothing but spending cuts and debt limit bullshit. the political narrative became that Dems lost bc they pushed a left-wing agenda down Americans' throats, which is bullshit, but after sticking their neck out and getting hosed, yeah, you tend to be a bit of a pussy about pushing a bold agenda again. we were 1 loving vote in the senate away from single payer in the form of a public option. joe lieberman was the holdout, and he wasn't even a loving democrat by then, he supported mccain. one of the 60 senate votes for healthcare loving dropped dead before the final vote and the dem base once again slept through the special election and let him be replaced by a shithead GOPer, in loving massachusetts of all places. and the dems still found a way to push things through. don't talk to me about what the majority of Dems support like you know poo poo.

hillary clinton is a lovely candidate? sure, that's how the upstart obama beat her in the 2008 primaries. so what's bernie's excuse?
bernie's the most popular national politician you say? he has yet to match the 2012 favorability ratings of...hillary clinton. funny how a slogging campaign and a bunch of ratfuck dirty tricks can do that. bernie hasn't been tested like that. you think trump would've played nice with the socialist?

we want the same ends. if you prove you can consistently show up, organize, and win some national elections, i guarantee Dem politicians will fall over themselves championing single payer for your votes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37OWL7AzvHo

Dixie Cretin Seaman
Jan 22, 2008

all hat and one catte
Hot Rope Guy

logikv9 posted:

imagine i posted that article about that dude who said "idk why i ever opposed obamacare, there must've been some black magic involved" and used the actual words "black magic" i think

lol, if u find this plz post it

Business Gorillas
Mar 11, 2009

:harambe:



Dixie Cretin Seaman posted:

i don't really have any more polite ways to explain this. you know why Dem politicians are scared of targeting campaigns to young left-wing voters? because you dumbfucks consistently gently caress them over by not showing up to vote while the old racist grandpas watching fox news do nothing but vote vote vote every election for the worst assholes imaginable, and if you can't count on some goodwill support from your base you have to move to the center. it's not a grand conspiracy, it's not "some game theory". it's basic logic. and it never loving ends bc every 8 years its another cohort of college kids who think they know better just as the last one finally learned their lesson.

in 2000, holier-than-thou "Green Party" dipshits voted a protest vote in a swing state and got us 8 years of a torturing warmonger texas oilman instead of the candidate who is now famous for his environmental advocacy

in 2010, after 2 years of unprecedented legislative accomplishments, including crucial government stimulus spending, new financial regulations and a new CFPB, and the ACA, which is the largest new government entitlement program in 70 years, the young left-wing voters that elected obama sat out the midterm elections like they always loving do, grinding all progress to a halt, handing the House to the loving tea party, for 6 goddamned years of nothing but spending cuts and debt limit bullshit. the political narrative became that Dems lost bc they pushed a left-wing agenda down Americans' throats, which is bullshit, but after sticking their neck out and getting hosed, yeah, you tend to be a bit of a pussy about pushing a bold agenda again. we were 1 loving vote in the senate away from single payer in the form of a public option. joe lieberman was the holdout, and he wasn't even a loving democrat by then, he supported mccain. one of the 60 senate votes for healthcare loving dropped dead before the final vote and the dem base once again slept through the special election and let him be replaced by a shithead GOPer, in loving massachusetts of all places. and the dems still found a way to push things through. don't talk to me about what the majority of Dems support like you know poo poo.

hillary clinton is a lovely candidate? sure, that's how the upstart obama beat her in the 2008 primaries. so what's bernie's excuse?
bernie's the most popular national politician you say? he has yet to match the 2012 favorability ratings of...hillary clinton. funny how a slogging campaign and a bunch of ratfuck dirty tricks can do that. bernie hasn't been tested like that. you think trump would've played nice with the socialist?

we want the same ends. if you prove you can consistently show up, organize, and win some national elections, i guarantee Dem politicians will fall over themselves championing single payer for your votes.

look at all of these words i wont read

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

nobody cares


Dixie Cretin Seaman posted:

i don't really have any more polite ways to explain this. you know why Dem politicians are scared of targeting campaigns to young left-wing voters? because you dumbfucks consistently gently caress them over by not showing up to vote while the old racist grandpas watching fox news do nothing but vote vote vote every election for the worst assholes imaginable, and if you can't count on some goodwill support from your base you have to move to the center. it's not a grand conspiracy, it's not "some game theory". it's basic logic. and it never loving ends bc every 8 years its another cohort of college kids who think they know better just as the last one finally learned their lesson.

in 2000, holier-than-thou "Green Party" dipshits voted a protest vote in a swing state and got us 8 years of a torturing warmonger texas oilman instead of the candidate who is now famous for his environmental advocacy

in 2010, after 2 years of unprecedented legislative accomplishments, including crucial government stimulus spending, new financial regulations and a new CFPB, and the ACA, which is the largest new government entitlement program in 70 years, the young left-wing voters that elected obama sat out the midterm elections like they always loving do, grinding all progress to a halt, handing the House to the loving tea party, for 6 goddamned years of nothing but spending cuts and debt limit bullshit. the political narrative became that Dems lost bc they pushed a left-wing agenda down Americans' throats, which is bullshit, but after sticking their neck out and getting hosed, yeah, you tend to be a bit of a pussy about pushing a bold agenda again. we were 1 loving vote in the senate away from single payer in the form of a public option. joe lieberman was the holdout, and he wasn't even a loving democrat by then, he supported mccain. one of the 60 senate votes for healthcare loving dropped dead before the final vote and the dem base once again slept through the special election and let him be replaced by a shithead GOPer, in loving massachusetts of all places. and the dems still found a way to push things through. don't talk to me about what the majority of Dems support like you know poo poo.

hillary clinton is a lovely candidate? sure, that's how the upstart obama beat her in the 2008 primaries. so what's bernie's excuse?
bernie's the most popular national politician you say? he has yet to match the 2012 favorability ratings of...hillary clinton. funny how a slogging campaign and a bunch of ratfuck dirty tricks can do that. bernie hasn't been tested like that. you think trump would've played nice with the socialist?

we want the same ends. if you prove you can consistently show up, organize, and win some national elections, i guarantee Dem politicians will fall over themselves championing single payer for your votes.

Lets not forget that Scalia presented liberals and the left with a once or twice in a loving lifetime opportunity for progress and solidification of himan rights for women and gays plus an opportunity to actually start dismantling the new jom crow from the top down by dying in his sleep.

Even this was apparently not enough.

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

nobody cares


SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:

When people don't show up to vote it's because they weren't really offered anything



Potato Salad posted:

Lets not forget that Scalia [died] in his sleep.

Even this was apparently not enough.

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

nobody cares


Let the record state that I'm furious with Obama for failing to beat the bully pulpit to get Merrick Garland into the supreme court. My ire for the left-that-wants-to-separate-from-the-dems is nowhere as deep as that for the real evil here, which is the GOP and their brilliant and divisive messaging that gets the middle and working classes to infight about wedge issues.

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



hello Dixie has disavowed that post and I think we should all respect their wishes

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011
Probation
Can't post for 3 days!

Dixie Cretin Seaman posted:

lol, if u find this plz post it

These Americans Hated the Health Law. Until the Idea of Repeal Sank In

quote:

“I can’t even remember why I opposed it,” said Patrick Murphy, who owns Bagel Barrel, on a quaint and bustling street near Mr. Brahin’s law office here in Doylestown.

He thought Democrats “jammed it down our throats,” and like Mr. Brahin, he worried about the growing deficit. But, he said, he has provided insurance for his own dozen or so employees since 1993. “Everybody needs some sort of health insurance,” Mr. Murphy said. “They’re trying to repeal Obamacare but they don’t have anything in place.”

Five years ago, people here could barely turn on their televisions without seeing negative ads warning that the Affordable Care Act would lead to rationed care and bloated bureaucracy. The law’s supporters, meanwhile, including the president whose name is attached to it, were not making much of a case. To win support, Democrats were emphasizing that little would change for people who already had coverage; President Barack Obama famously promised that you could keep your plan and your doctor, even as a few million people’s noncompliant plans that did not offer all the law’s required benefits were canceled as the law was rolled out. “The best way to get something passed was to argue it was small change,” said Stanley Greenberg, a veteran Democratic pollster. “It was only when Republicans got control that people then on their own discovered that this is what the benefits are.”

quote:

“I can’t even remember why I opposed it,” said Patrick Murphy


quote:

I can’t even remember why I opposed it

quote:

I can’t even remember why I opposed it

I can’t even remember why I opposed it
I can’t even remember why I opposed it
I can’t even remember why I opposed it
I can’t even remember why I opposed it

:psyduck:

DARPA
Apr 24, 2005
We know what happens to people who stay in the middle of the road. They get run over.
Not as bad as this aspiring amputee from the same article

quote:

“If I had to pay a penalty, it’s still less than I have to pay for having health care all year,” Ms. McMahon said. At 52, she has diabetes and says the strips to test her blood sugar are so expensive that sometimes she tests once a month rather than daily. She has not looked into whether she might qualify for the Medicaid expansion; she was not aware Pennsylvania had expanded the program.

No idea what this women needs, but diabetes test strips can be had for $15 for a 100 pack.

Volcott
Mar 30, 2010

People paying American dollars to let other people know they didn't agree with someone's position on something is the lifeblood of these forums.
oww oof my blood sugar

Dixie Cretin Seaman
Jan 22, 2008

all hat and one catte
Hot Rope Guy
https://twitter.com/clayaiken/status/897605240706527233

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

nobody cares



Look at his activity since that post. He's eating poo poo HARD for the potential appearance of having supported Trump (he never did).

I'm hoping there is a lesson that is being learned by or will soon be learned by people waking up to the Actual Nazi President of the United States Mr Donald J Trump: don't play both sides, don't be a wet noodle on potential fascists.

SHY NUDIST GRRL
Feb 15, 2011

Communism will help more white people than anyone else. Any equal measures unfairly provide less to minority populations just because there's less of them. Democracy is truly the tyranny of the mob.

I'm sure the both siders will learn the wrong lesson

https://twitter.com/joeprince___/status/897677912341712896

Philthy
Jan 28, 2003

Pillbug

I'm trying to figure out how he could have thought this to begin with. When Trump got the nom his butler of 17 years made the news because all he said was the N word constantly and wanted Obama dead. Trump not giving a care in the world about this pretty much shows where he stands.

Lindsey O. Graham
Dec 31, 2016

"We're not generating enough angry white guys to stay in business for the long term."

- The Chief

lmfao!!!

Lindsey O. Graham
Dec 31, 2016

"We're not generating enough angry white guys to stay in business for the long term."

- The Chief
wrong thred

Lindsey O. Graham has issued a correction as of 08:24 on Aug 16, 2017

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



Lindsey O. Graham posted:

let's loving do this
:guinness:

Plz let us do not do this here

Lindsey O. Graham
Dec 31, 2016

"We're not generating enough angry white guys to stay in business for the long term."

- The Chief

Epic High Five posted:

Plz let us do not do this here

oh, um
ok

Only registered members can see post attachments!

Lindsey O. Graham
Dec 31, 2016

"We're not generating enough angry white guys to stay in business for the long term."

- The Chief
yet again, wrong thred

nm
Jan 28, 2008

"I saw Minos the Space Judge holding a golden sceptre and passing sentence upon the Martians. There he presided, and around him the noble Space Prosecutors sought the firm justice of space law."
I like to imagine lindsay graham getting drunk and posting here.

Steve Yun
Aug 7, 2003
I'm a parasitic landlord that needs to get a job instead of stealing worker's money. Make sure to remind me when I post.
Soiled Meat
Christopher Cantwell, who shot to fame yesterday for bragging about being ready for violence in the Vice report on Charlottesville, has now been told that he has a warrant out for his arrest and is worried that law enforcement is going to kill him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAk6szYQ-bM

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 4 hours!

Steve Yun posted:

Christopher Cantwell, who shot to fame yesterday for bragging about being ready for violence in the Vice report on Charlottesville, has now been told that he has a warrant out for his arrest and is worried that law enforcement is going to kill him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAk6szYQ-bM

why is he called cantwell if he has no trouble welling up tears

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC

Steve Yun posted:

Christopher Cantwell, who shot to fame yesterday for bragging about being ready for violence in the Vice report on Charlottesville, has now been told that he has a warrant out for his arrest and is worried that law enforcement is going to kill him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAk6szYQ-bM

I think he's lying. Keene police say there's no warrant issued for his arrest that they're aware of.

Edit: whoops forget out the "no" in there.

OhFunny has issued a correction as of 17:18 on Aug 17, 2017

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



OhFunny posted:

I think he's lying. Keene police say there's warrant issued for his arrest that they're aware of.

I think they told him that they couldn't confirm but to check with a magistrate in person as a way to get him to turn himself in

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Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 4 hours!

OhFunny posted:

I think he's lying.

that doesn't sound like a nazi's MO

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