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I liked FFXIII's approach to storytelling the first time I played it (Not the Datalog) Good or bad they gave each individual character a lot of screen time, something a lot JRPGs don't do
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CuddlyZombie posted:So, which re-translation is this? http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=14914.0 This one. It comes with a bunch of other mods too for convenience. If you're planning on replaying this game anyway I would actually recommend this whole package, even if the translation is not always good.
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Aug 14, 2017 19:27
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Another factor about Lightning being mad in the birthday scene that isn't obvious to the players is that Lightning already was mad at Snow in the past and told him to stay away from her sister the first time they met. So it'd suck to go from that to hearing that your sister is gonna marry this obnoxious dude. But you'd only get that from the prequel novel thing, so it's really dumb to have no context in the game. zedprime posted:Lightning's response is just a denial then anger response in the stages of grief. Replace lcie with a for real but rare terminal illness and you'd see the same argument about getting married. Well, sorta. A l'Cie is like that but you're also a magical spy agent for the fal'Cie, and also these spy agents/diseases haven't been seen in hundreds of years.
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Aug 14, 2017 19:44
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Amppelix posted:http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=14914.0 
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Aug 14, 2017 19:46
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This conversation reminds me of two things: That FFXIII is really stupid, and it's time to replay FFXIII.
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Aug 14, 2017 19:53
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exquisite tea posted:This conversation reminds me of two things: That FFXIII is really stupid, and it's time to replay FFXIII. Just play XIII-2 instead. Amppelix posted:http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=14914.0 I would recommend the New Threat Mod which totally overhauls and improves the battle system and was recently just completely finished after years of work and updates. (although I'm holding out for SC's FFVIII mod which I am very excited for)
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Aug 14, 2017 20:05
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For what it's worth FFXIII has slick visuals, UI and the music is legitimately good. I think the battle system generally succeeds at what it's trying to do: fast paced battles that require you to shift strategy to keep up with enemies
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Aug 14, 2017 20:06
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I love the 13 battle theme
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Aug 14, 2017 20:10
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Norns posted:I love the 13 battle theme 
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Aug 14, 2017 20:21
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Is that Blinded by Light?
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Aug 14, 2017 20:34
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Yeah it owns https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfu0XBf8kmk
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Aug 14, 2017 20:35
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I remember when the first trailer came out and had that song in it, I really hoped it would be the random battle theme. Was not disappointed. I mean, I was disappointed by a lot, but not the music.
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Aug 14, 2017 20:39
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idk... i never really cared for it. it kinda reminds me of ffx's boss theme, which i also didn't care for, but it makes sense why because they were composed by the same person
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Aug 14, 2017 20:40
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The White Dragon posted:idk... i never really cared for it. it kinda reminds me of ffx's boss theme, which i also didn't care for, but it makes sense why because they were composed by the same person Shut up
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Aug 14, 2017 20:43
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Norns posted:Shut up im sorry you can't cope with other people disliking a thing
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Aug 14, 2017 20:46
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Hey I'm trying to listen to good music here keep it down
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Aug 14, 2017 20:51
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The White Dragon posted:idk... i never really cared for it. it kinda reminds me of ffx's boss theme, which i also didn't care for, but it makes sense why because they were composed by the same person Do you mean this ffx boss theme? That was actually composed/arranged by Junya Nakano and not Hamauzu. Though Nakano did do a couple arrangements on 13, including this boss song that sounds very similar as that FFX song. Hamauzu did do the other boss battle theme in FFX, the one for Seymor Flux and Yunalesca, and that's actually my favorite FFX battle theme  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XFlR4MQaQI Ventana fucked around with this message at 21:03 on Aug 14, 2017 |
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Aug 14, 2017 21:01
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Worst part of XIII's battle theme is that by endgame you end popcorn encounters fast enough that you don't get to hear the DOO doo DOOdoo DOO doo dooDOO part. e: according to that youtube link to the track from the OST it's 0:58 in, that's just sad 
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Aug 14, 2017 21:05
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Ventana posted:Do you mean this ffx boss theme? That was actually composed/arranged by Junya Nakano and not Hamauzu. Though Nakano did do a couple arrangements on 13, including this boss song that sounds very similar as that FFX song. oh yeah i guess so that one that said i don't really care for challenge, either  ffx's soundtrack... most of it was a miss with me but what can you do?
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Aug 14, 2017 21:11
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As critical as I am with FF13, Blinded by Light loving owns and is probably one of the best regular battle themes in the series.
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Aug 14, 2017 21:13
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Mega64 posted:As critical as I am with FF13, Blinded by Light loving owns and is probably one of the best regular battle themes in the series. Agreed. Right up there with 2 and 7.
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Aug 14, 2017 21:16
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Well I think that settles it. After I'm done with FF12 I was going to play FF9 because I never played it before (and I still am) but after that I'm replaying FF13. It's been 10 years jeez.
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Aug 14, 2017 21:23
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My favorite battle theme will always be the FF7 battle theme. It's so good.
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Aug 14, 2017 21:33
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NikkolasKing posted:Just play XIII-2 instead. Nah play either of the ones that are less dumb and better designed.
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Aug 14, 2017 21:41
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I enjoyed FFXV and its DLC a lot, but the Jared thing is the most inexplicable thing I've seen in a Square game. Including Xenogears and Kingdom Hearts.
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Aug 14, 2017 21:48
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Gologle posted:My favorite battle theme will always be the FF7 battle theme. It's so good. My man. I like all the main battle themes except for 8's. Man With The Machinegun is sooooo much better.
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Aug 14, 2017 21:50
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ROFL Octopus posted:My man. Laguna should've been the protagonist, and therefore Man with the Machine Gun the main battle theme.
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Harrow posted:Laguna should've been the protagonist, and therefore Man with the Machine Gun the main battle theme. 
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Aug 14, 2017 21:58
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:Nah play either of the ones that are less dumb and better designed. Both of XIII's sequels were better designed by virtue of actually being fun to play rather than just proceeding down various hallways so you could get to the next cutscene. XIII-2 might be easier but I'll play it again all day everyday because I can actually do stuff besides random battles.
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Aug 14, 2017 22:25
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:Nah play either of the ones that are less dumb and better designed. Look I can't argue with less dumb but flan with sunglasses is the best design of anything ever
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Aug 14, 2017 22:26
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Blinded by Light is a good song but a bad battle theme
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Aug 14, 2017 22:54
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NikkolasKing posted:Both of XIII's sequels were better designed by virtue of actually being fun to play rather than just proceeding down various hallways so you could get to the next cutscene. XIII-2 is real bad in comparison to XIII mostly because everything that isnt the concept of "there are npcs to talk to at all times" is strictly worse than something in XIII
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DACK FAYDEN posted:Worst part of XIII's battle theme is that by endgame you end popcorn encounters fast enough that you don't get to hear the DOO doo DOOdoo DOO doo dooDOO part. That's why Lightning Returns, in its myriad of things it did right, remixed Blinded By Light and put the doots first. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqoeVm5fZuQ
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Aug 14, 2017 23:09
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Elephant Ambush posted:This is a really good one too. My little 12 year old self was like The temple of ordeals did suck a bit. Especially that 2nd floor with the pillar puzzle. Fighting the zombie dragon was a cool boss though, and he was repeatable for more experience.
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Barudak posted:XIII-2 is real bad in comparison to XIII mostly because everything that isnt the concept of "there are npcs to talk to at all times" is strictly worse than something in XIII Are we still talking strictly gameplay here? Because while I was no fan of the puzzles, I liked the time travel mechanics and non-linearity and multiple endings. But aside from that, I also prefer XIII-2 in terms of music and having a villain with some presence.
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NikkolasKing posted:Both of XIII's sequels were better designed by virtue of actually being fun to play rather than just proceeding down various hallways so you could get to the next cutscene. Eh, I don't mind hallways as long as the battle systems is fun. 13-2 does give a bit more freedom beyond hallways, but I don't feel it does anything spectacularly well with it in comparison (outside of like, academia 400 I guess). That + the worse balance + the battle system not being quite as good is why I'll take 13-1 over 2 anyday.
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I've been staring at Vaan's job select screen for like 20 minutes. I have total paralysis. In theory it would be cool to use every job once, since you get 12 now and that would mean there's zero equipment I can't use, but there's also some jobs I don't give a flying gently caress about. Like how bad is it to have two White Mages or two Knights instead of bringing an Archer? Is Machinist just garbage for dealing damage bc guns were pretty unreliable in vanilla FF12 but I have no clue if they've changed any mechanics, added any broken endgame weaponry, etc Help
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I'm surprised no one mentioned Galuf shattering a crystal with sheer willpower, then surviving being on the receiving end of Exdeath's magic to beyond 0 health, and he doesn't die until after the battle because his granddaughter and friends still needed protecting. That and the destruction of Home in X are my two favorite moments in the series.
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wizard on a water slide posted:I've been staring at Vaan's job select screen for like 20 minutes. I have total paralysis. In theory it would be cool to use every job once, since you get 12 now and that would mean there's zero equipment I can't use, but there's also some jobs I don't give a flying gently caress about. Pick whatever it doesn't matter as long as you don't make like 6 white mages or something and even then you'd probably be okay if you picked something sensible for the second job
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wizard on a water slide posted:I've been staring at Vaan's job select screen for like 20 minutes. I have total paralysis. In theory it would be cool to use every job once, since you get 12 now and that would mean there's zero equipment I can't use, but there's also some jobs I don't give a flying gently caress about. All jobs are good, and you get two. Machinist is probably the "worst" class but it's still not going to ruin you. Archer is ok because there is some synergy with the burning bow and Red Mage, but if you don't care, just play how you want. e: I like doing all the classes between my 6 characters and I'm just rolling through everything. I guess if you have too many of one class you might be thin on the really good equipment later on, but two knights sounds fine to me.
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