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NTRabbit posted:How did Ollie Wines only get a fine for leaving his feet to make a late bump to the head? Because we're getting to that point of the season where the AFL doesn't want to suspend major players in finals bound teams.
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# ? Aug 14, 2017 07:45 |
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So if someone kicks Greene in the head this week and say they were defending space then that's cool? Okay then, hopefully the Eagles know just how far they can take this then
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# ? Aug 14, 2017 07:50 |
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Testekill posted:So if someone kicks Greene in the head this week and say they were defending space then that's cool? Okay then, hopefully the Eagles know just how far they can take this then Time to redeem yourself in the eyes of the footballing public, Sam Mitchell
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# ? Aug 14, 2017 07:57 |
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The most confusing thing is that Greene was fined so clearly the AFL is saying that what he did wasn't in the rules. But clearly if it's only a fine then the AFL don't give a gently caress, If Dahlhaus was even an inch smaller or Greenes foot was an inch higher than Dahlhaus would have copped a stud in the eye. Ollie Wines getting a $1000 fine is also confusing. So he gets let off because he didn't injure the Collingwood player but he left the ground and hit the Collingwood player in the head with an elbow. If there's a high bump without an injury and the AFL suspends them then the AFL bangs on about it being all about the action and not the result. But this bump in particular had an obvious jumping action and he hit him high. The AFL always says that if you choose to leave the ground in order to bump someone and you catch them in the head then you cop a suspension.
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# ? Aug 14, 2017 08:09 |
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Testekill posted:The most confusing thing is that Greene was fined so clearly the AFL is saying that what he did wasn't in the rules. To me it looks like they're saying they wish what he did was in the rules because it was terrible optics, but it isn't, so they can't suspend him. The best they could do was fine him as a way of telling the public that it's not on, and that they'll be inserting a rule in the off season. The misconduct category basically exists for the AFL to punish players who break rules the AFL forgot to make before the season started.
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The AFL should appeal the case. In the Bachar Houli case it was graded by the appeals board as intentional because he intended to throw his arm back, they didn't need to establish he intended to injure.
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Solemn Sloth posted:The AFL should appeal the case. In the Bachar Houli case it was graded by the appeals board as intentional because he intended to throw his arm back, they didn't need to establish he intended to injure. Wouldn't bother. The fact that it was a misconduct fine means that his multiple fines for striking and rough conduct are ignored so he doesn't get an automatic week off. Yes it's just as ridiculous as it sounds
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# ? Aug 14, 2017 08:16 |
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I can see Greene getting a fine as teh ultimate in wishy-washy compromise, the truth is somewhere in the middle bullshit from the MRP. They fine him, (so they acknowledge he did something wrong to placate the "hang him high" group), but because it's only a fine they can also be seen to be trying to placate the "you should be able to kick people in the face. It's not netball" crowd. However, in practice what it does is neither. It infuriates both sides, and is neither punishment for the crime, nor validation that he did nothing wrong. And if we are to stay in the practical world, Toby Greene is a fucktard with anger and violence issues, so he's going to do something like this again no matter what you do to him. But I am more worried about the precedent set. Jumper Punch = suspension, Kick to the face = fine.
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# ? Aug 14, 2017 08:19 |
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Also Wines escapes suspension. All seems a bit backwards at the minute.
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# ? Aug 14, 2017 08:32 |
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Testekill posted:Wouldn't bother. The fact that it was a misconduct fine means that his multiple fines for striking and rough conduct are ignored so he doesn't get an automatic week off. I don't think the tribunal is bound to accepting the charge as laid and are free to re-examine on merits, I could be wrong though
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# ? Aug 14, 2017 08:59 |
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realbez posted:Saints supporters are so bitter. 1971 was a long time ago, I think we are over it by now.
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# ? Aug 14, 2017 11:46 |
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Watson Hodge Riewoldt Bob Murphy Gibson Mitchell Stevie J That's one hell of a list of big name retirees this year .. throw in the possibilities of Morris, Kelly, McVeigh, Jack, Montagna, Petrie, maybe even people like GAJ and Sandilands aren't out of the question. That would have to be the biggest possible list, or at least biggest in star power since ... 2007? (Hird, Buckley, Grant, Ruccito, Kouta, Darcy, Archer, Lappin, Whitnall, Licuria, Clement, Hamill, Camporeale, Chris Johnson, Pickett, Chris Scott, Wakelin, Montgomery etc.)
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# ? Aug 15, 2017 02:12 |
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One of Mackie and lonergan is done as well, book it
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# ? Aug 15, 2017 02:33 |
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"It wasn't something that really sat in the table or parameters," Bartel told RSN radio on Tuesday. If only there was some process they had for referring a case to another body where they feel the MRP system doesn't lead to a satisfactory outcome.
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thepokey posted:Watson Sandilands is signed up for next year
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# ? Aug 15, 2017 02:49 |
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thepokey posted:Watson Scott Thompson
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Spedman posted:Sandilands is signed up for next year True, that's why I say maybe, not like that's stopped people before if they think their bodies are hosed
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# ? Aug 15, 2017 03:35 |
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racing identity posted:Scott Thompson Who? Do you mean the gamenorth defender?
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# ? Aug 15, 2017 04:04 |
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Redpath challenging his suspension, arguing that he shoved Davis in the chest with insufficent force. Considering that Davis is now an renowned stager it'll be interesting if he gets called out on it.
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# ? Aug 15, 2017 04:13 |
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hiddenmovement posted:Who? Do you mean the gamenorth defender? Nah he played a few games for Melbourne but must have been in the VFL or something since
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# ? Aug 15, 2017 04:41 |
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International cup had a big day today with most teams playing today at royal park. Two games still livestreaming Ireland V GB Womens: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRIUA2Knx6g Japan vs Croatia mens: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4pvy0WAwtU I missed it (being tuesday) but apparently the USA V Canada womens game was called early after a US players was taken from the field in an ambulance. Canada won the game at 3QT and will face the winner of GBv Ireland in the grand final as the curtain raiser for Carlton v Hawks on Saturday. drunkill fucked around with this message at 07:29 on Aug 15, 2017 |
# ? Aug 15, 2017 07:26 |
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I'm going to miss Joshie (although he had not had a good season so the time was right) and I'm going to miss Bob.
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# ? Aug 15, 2017 08:10 |
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Sucks that Bob missed out on the Grand Final last year
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# ? Aug 15, 2017 08:46 |
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drunkill posted:
Croatia 66 to Japan 1 at full time.
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# ? Aug 15, 2017 09:06 |
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Well that didn't go to plan. I guess they figured they were fairly slim chance to make finals without him so missing round 1 next year doesn't really matter or something?
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# ? Aug 15, 2017 10:58 |
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The MRP is a loving joke.
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V for Vegas posted:Croatia 66 to Japan 1 at full time. PNG 17.16 113 - South Africa 0.4 4 Mens GF is PNG vs NZ at the MCG
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# ? Aug 15, 2017 12:11 |
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Interestingly, Jordan Lewis of all people said that what Greene did was not acceptable and that the AFL should have made a statement since any resulting injury would have been incredibly severe. Murphy & Jack Riewoldt also said the same thing but the only player that would have shocked me more would be if Hodge said so.
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I would love to see stats on how many times Hodge is mentioned in posts itt. No farewll for Gibson, his groin is still stuffed apparently. Everyone knew it was coming but his retirement still saddens me. Best and fairest in two premiership years. A gun.
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Testekill posted:Interestingly, Jordan Lewis of all people said that what Greene did was not acceptable and that the AFL should have made a statement since any resulting injury would have been incredibly severe. Murphy & Jack Riewoldt also said the same thing but the only player that would have shocked me more would be if Hodge said so. I don't think Lewis ever complained when he got suspended. He generally knew he'd done something wrong Edit: I'm going to miss Gibbo a lot. Absolute champion of our club. 2 Crimmins medals in premiership years.
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spamman posted:Edit: I'm going to miss Gibbo a lot. Absolute champion of our club. 2 Crimmins medals in premiership years. I definitely see Gibbo in the media. I'm gonna miss him on the field, but there's a lot of "I'm gonna miss <insert here> on the field" going on.
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spamman posted:I don't think Lewis ever complained when he got suspended. He generally knew he'd done something wrong Hah, when he clotheslined Goldstein a couple years back he got pretty salty when Robbo had the nerve to ask him about it on 360. I mean, I don't expect him to come out and say 'Yeah I wanted to smash their most important player in the head', but he absolutely trotted out all the 'Nah it's a fast game, clearly trying to spoil the ball' nonsense. Sad to see Murphy go, especially the way the year has gone for the Dogs, with some players just falling off the cliff after the premiership. Goes through all the rehab and pain at his age and there's a real chance they won't even make finals.
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realbez posted:I would love to see stats on how many times Hodge is mentioned in posts itt. Counting down the days until Jake Lever decides his heart is with the newly vacated third defender spot at Hawthorn, the team with no first round pick to trade, and only the GWS second round pick in the 40s to trade. NTRabbit fucked around with this message at 14:53 on Aug 15, 2017 |
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Schlesische posted:I definitely see Gibbo in the media. I'm gonna miss him on the field, but there's a lot of "I'm gonna miss <insert here> on the field" going on. Has he done any media at all in his career? I can't recall much if any
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# ? Aug 15, 2017 14:50 |
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Modelling mostly
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NTRabbit posted:Counting down the days until Jake Lever decides his heart is with the newly vacated third defender spot at Hawthorn, the team with no first round pick to trade, and only the GWS second round pick in the 40s to trade. I'm confident, too 😊
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# ? Aug 15, 2017 16:01 |
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Cheers, Bob. As far as footballers go, he's quite eloquent. Would be nice to see him write about the game more
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# ? Aug 15, 2017 21:39 |
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Grumio posted:Cheers, Bob. Write? What are ya, a bloody communist? Everyone knows that to truly be a footballer in the media you need to dress up as a awoman and complain about Political Correctness.
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# ? Aug 15, 2017 23:51 |
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Bennell is going to get his first game for Freo this weekend (he did play a few pre-season games). I just hope his calves don't explode.
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and from The Scum quote:In official AFL figures seen by the Herald Sun, Collingwood has leapfrogged Hawthorn with 75,879 paid-up members as total AFL memberships rose 3.7 per cent. drunkill fucked around with this message at 07:32 on Aug 16, 2017 |
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