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You could just have them roll a Luck stat (3d6 or 4d6 drop lowest).
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I'd just use proficiency.
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Aug 15, 2017 05:28
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Proficiency sounds good, though I'm not even sure you need it. Unless I'm mistaken, don't DCC luck stats only have a chance of affecting critical rolls?
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Nickoten posted:Proficiency sounds good, though I'm not even sure you need it. Unless I'm mistaken, don't DCC luck stats only have a chance of affecting critical rolls? Yes, it does. A level 1 DCC Thief rolls a [d10 + Luck modifier] on Crit Table II, and the tables go up to 20+, so I was thinking that perhaps keeping the Luck modifier might be good so that you can still get an 11 result even as a level 1. But I think proficiency should do it.
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Aug 15, 2017 14:47
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Merge STR and CON, add Luck in as the sixth stat.
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Aug 15, 2017 14:59
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As per the official D&D facebook page, D&D Beyond is now live.
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Aug 15, 2017 22:19
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That's cool. Even if you don't own the products you can still get most of the monster art off Beyond. Edit: Huh this is interesting. You can buy individual parts of books.
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P.d0t posted:As per the official D&D facebook page, D&D Beyond is now live. Speaking of which, my group is getting back together soon after Summer break. One of our members wants to bring along a new player, which I've okayed (now up to six people). Would it be a good idea to start the new person off at the same level as the rest of my players or should there be some disparity? I'm thinking just to start them off at parity (level 10), but more than one of my players have expressed that it's somewhat unfair for them to have had to work to that level and this new player gets it right away. Panderfringe fucked around with this message at 23:04 on Aug 15, 2017 |
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Aug 15, 2017 22:55
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MonsterEnvy posted:That's cool. Even if you don't own the products you can still get most of the monster art off Beyond. You can buy the rules for individual spells for 2 bucks a pop. EDIT: "Get the 58 spells from Player's Handbook for use on D&D Beyond. You may also purchase individual spells." Cool Dad fucked around with this message at 23:07 on Aug 15, 2017 |
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Aug 15, 2017 23:00
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Panderfringe posted:Well, that's near useless on the basic level. I tried making a variant human and the only feats I could take were grappler and svirfneblin magic. You can only choose one of the paths for your character, like if you don't want to be a life domain cleric you're sol. Yeah thats the OGL stuff. You need to buy the PHB to get the rest of the options. For people that don't own the PHB this could be useful. For those who do own the PHB this is another 20 dollars you have to throw on the thing which is understandable but still sucks. (If you do want to buy it get it now, as the stuff is going to go up to 30 dollars in like a week.)
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Aug 15, 2017 23:01
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Enola Gay-For-Pay posted:You can buy the rules for individual spells for 2 bucks a pop. Same for monsters. Not really worth it unless you are only interested in one monster or spells and not the others. All monsters / spells togeaher for a certain thing are the more reasonable 5 to 7 dollars. (Or 12 dollars in the case of buying all the volo's monsters.)
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Enola Gay-For-Pay posted:You can buy the rules for individual spells for 2 bucks a pop. Hahahaha gently caress this.
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Enola Gay-For-Pay posted:You can buy the rules for individual spells for 2 bucks a pop. You can also buy all the spells from the PHB for $5. Also any money you spend on the individual components gives a dollar-for-dollar discount on the full book.
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esquilax posted:You can also buy all the spells from the PHB for $5. Ok that is fair. So if you ever do want the full book, and have bought individual parts of it before you don't have to pay full price for it.
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esquilax posted:You can also buy all the spells from the PHB for $5. All 58 of them I guess? I'm no good at math but... 
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Pretty much the only things indivdually I can see people paying for are for stuff like Tiamat and Demon Lord stat blocks. Other then that they would ether get the whole adventure or all the start blocks for a much more sensible price.
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Enola Gay-For-Pay posted:All 58 of them I guess? I'm no good at math but... I am guessing it means the 58 spells that were not included in the OGL.
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Panderfringe posted:
Maybe start like the level below. But level him faster until he catches up?
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Panderfringe posted:I'm thinking just to start them off at parity (level 10), but more than one of my players have expressed that it's somewhat unfair for them to have had to work to that level and this new player gets it right away.
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MonsterEnvy posted:Pretty much the only things indivdually I can see people paying for are for stuff like Tiamat and Demon Lord stat blocks. Other then that they would ether get the whole adventure or all the start blocks for a much more sensible price. Guessing a lot of PC stuff would be worthwhile to purchase. If a player wants Bugbear in the app they can unlock it for $2 instead of buying the whole of Volo's, or if they get a magic item in a campaign they can buy the specific one instead of a whole book.
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I'm just not hot on buying the books all over again. Far as I'm concerned character generator equal to Orc Pub (with access to all options) should be completely free. Then yeah you can buy additional books and then those are searchable and PDF downloads. Aside from something like that I just don't see this as a valuable service.
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esquilax posted:Guessing a lot of PC stuff would be worthwhile to purchase. If a player wants Bugbear in the app they can unlock it for $2 instead of buying the whole of Volo's, or if they get a magic item in a campaign they can buy the specific one instead of a whole book. doctor 7 posted:I'm just not hot on buying the books all over again. Far as I'm concerned character generator equal to Orc Pub (with access to all options) should be completely free. Then yeah you can buy additional books and then those are searchable and PDF downloads. Aside from something like that I just don't see this as a valuable service. I am not ether. Would be much better if they had a thing to somehow check if you own one of the physical books. Still this device could be useful for buying books in the future. It looks like it would appeal more to people that don't already own the books.
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MMAgCh posted:More than one of your players are weird. Yes. I think I'll just make them suck it up.
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MonsterEnvy posted:If I had a choice though I would buy all the character options in that case. At minimum allowing complete character creation would get people to use it more and maybe buy poo poo on it
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Panderfringe posted:Yes. Do people like this realize that they'll be responsible for babysetting a level 1 through a bunch of encounters with archdemons or head cultists or whatever?
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Caphi posted:Do people like this realize that they'll be responsible for babysetting a level 1 through a bunch of encounters with archdemons or head cultists or whatever? Yeah just start them 1 level lower tops. Otherwise they will be getting one-shot by everything, fail every check and be useless. They won't have fun and won't get to know their characters' abilities.
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The only advantage to starting a little lower is if they're totally new to the game. It can be a little overwhelming to get all your options thrown at you. That being said, most classes have the bulk of their abilities well before level 10 so there's not much point. Start them off a level low to make the other guys feel better, then give them an XP boost/level them faster if you use milestone, so that they catch up within a couple sessions.
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are the "whole books" at least only as expensive (or less) than the actual books?
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A new PHB on amazon is 30 bucks. 20 on Beyond at the 'reduced price', which will eventually revert to 30. Lots of nickel and diming if you want a specific character. Want to use the Sword Coast cantrips? Those are extra. Want a VOLO aasimar? Extra for the base race and each of 3 subraces. Have a few magic items from a campaign? Extra. Or buy it all for your group and share a master-level account. It's $120 for the core 3 plus Sword Coast (races/subclasses) and volos, and another $55 to make it shareable for a year. Honestly that's probably a better deal at like $30-40 per player. In comparison, back in 2011 I payed this for access to all 4e content and all dungeon/dragon content (RIP), and shared with my group: Product Name: 1 Year Dungeons and Dragons Insider Subscription Amount: $71.40
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Yeah I am trying to build a character with that, beyond just not having many options available at the free level it just seems kind of terrible? Like how do you set it so you have special AC from something like Mage Armor? Building a Warlock and picking Agonizing Blast does not effect Eldritch Blast at all, I have to go in and edit Eldritch Blast itself. All in all it seems vastly inferior to the Fillable Character Sheet I already use, and that character sheet is a pay what you want kind of thing. The only potential benefit I could see to this over just using that character sheet is that it is technically official, and that it could probably be used on a tablet to create/edit a character which I can't seem to do with the sheet on my tablet.
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I love D&D Beyond because it's a physical manifestation of the idea of throwing away everything 4E did and then doing things 4E did only worse in basically every way. edit: poo poo WotC went after the 4E offline builder like it was MechaHitlerStalin and made tracking it down like finding pure unicorn tears. Meanwhile.... Orcpub.
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Aug 16, 2017 04:13
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Best 5e character sheet is MPMB's, fight me.
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Subjunctive posted:Best 5e character sheet is MPMB's, fight me. It's too bad pathguy is limited to the Basic version
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doctor 7 posted:I'm just not hot on buying the books all over again. Far as I'm concerned character generator equal to Orc Pub (with access to all options) should be completely free. Then yeah you can buy additional books and then those are searchable and PDF downloads. Aside from something like that I just don't see this as a valuable service. Alright, I've gotta ask: How many people itt are legit using some sort of character generator to make their characters for 5e? If so, how much of that is "to use additional content that is spread over UA/is in a book I don't own"?
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I use a fillable character sheet because I don't want to bother with printing out a sheet and filling it out by hand. The one I use tends to be updated relatively quickly after a new release or UA article. I feel like a lot of people would probably use something just to keep track of things. Then again most people at the games I have gone to do use a printed sheet, only a few use an app on their phone, a sheet on their computer, or something similar. But it is still a number of people.
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P.d0t posted:Alright, I've gotta ask: I am using physical books and writing with pencil on a home made character sheet as god intended and as I have done since the 80s. I will continue to do so until someone achieves the impossible and provides a constantly updated character building app that is available for a small monthly fee.
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I do my character sheets by hand, and "by hand" I mean using Notepad or Google Spreadsheet. Character builders are "nice", but I can never shake the feeling that they're getting it wrong because I don't see the back-end. I've since learned the trick to making clean character sheets is to have one worksheet where you do all your raw and ugly calculations, and then you have a front-end worksheet where everything is just "displayed".
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Depending on what you mean by app, MPMB's might be close. It knows about all the UA and such content, does spell stuff, bonuses from feats and backgrounds, dependencies, weapon bonuses, Druid wild shapes, etc. It's a fillable PDF with all manner of dark scripting in it, so it needs some form of Acrobat. I mostly print for sessions and then update the master when I get done, if I'm playing f2f. Online I just use it directly.
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P.d0t posted:Alright, I've gotta ask: P.d0t posted:If so, how much of that is "to use additional content that is spread over UA/is in a book I don't own"? esquilax posted:Also any money you spend on the individual components gives a dollar-for-dollar discount on the full book. That said: doctor 7 posted:I'm just not hot on buying the books all over again.
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So I had a really good idea for a stupid wild magic offshoot where the wizard, instead of rolling on the wild table, grabs the top card on a deck of cards against humanity and that card is the resulting spell instead
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