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Ultimate Shrek Fan posted:I also have a sergeant that posts anti-trudeau poo poo all the time. but i have the feeling that it will be completely ignored if i report it. when did it not become okay to have a different political view? Just because he was elected doesn't mean we don't have the right to think what we want. I don't like Trudeau either I think he's an idiot but he's an elected idiot and if I have to defend his life then i will. Unless the sgt is specifically saying poo poo like , " I want to kill the prime minister of Canada " it's a non issue. Just because you're in the forces doesn't mean you HAVE to be a liberal lmao.
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Goobs posted:when did it not become okay to have a different political view? Just because he was elected doesn't mean we don't have the right to think what we want. I don't like Trudeau either I think he's an idiot but he's an elected idiot and if I have to defend his life then i will. Unless the sgt is specifically saying poo poo like , " I want to kill the prime minister of Canada " it's a non issue. Just because you're in the forces doesn't mean you HAVE to be a liberal lmao. You're not allowed to poo poo talk your boss, moron. It has nothing to do with what side you're on, it's that you can't be actively engaged in politics while serving. You're not allowed to put election signs in your front yard, you're not allowed to poo poo talk the prime minister.
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Saying something like "I disagree with his political views and agenda" is fine, "Turdeau is a loving moron and has got to go." is not. You keep it to yourself or only talk about it in a private settings, anything you do in public or publicly accessible reflects on the military as well.
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Anybody else have MAGA hat wearing idiots at their units with 4chan pepe poo poo in their working area?
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Goobs posted:when did it not become okay to have a different political view? Just because he was elected doesn't mean we don't have the right to think what we want. I don't like Trudeau either I think he's an idiot but he's an elected idiot and if I have to defend his life then i will. Unless the sgt is specifically saying poo poo like , " I want to kill the prime minister of Canada " it's a non issue. Just because you're in the forces doesn't mean you HAVE to be a liberal lmao. What the gently caress Are you functionally retarded
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Aug 16, 2017 02:47
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MA-Horus posted:What the gently caress Calm down snowflake. I'll put a trigger warning up next time for you. Just call me a Nazi because I disagree with your political views, that's what you lefties are good at.
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Aug 16, 2017 02:58
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Goobs posted:Calm down snowflake. I'll put a trigger warning up next time for you. Just call me a Nazi because I disagree with your political views, that's what you lefties are good at. hoooo boy
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Aug 16, 2017 03:07
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Goobs posted:Calm down snowflake. I'll put a trigger warning up next time for you. Just call me a Nazi because I disagree with your political views, that's what you lefties are good at. source your quotes and then gently caress off
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Aug 16, 2017 03:18
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Kazinsal posted:source your quotes Why, when it's so easy to get you guys going? Can you source where it says I have to agree with the decisions the PM makes 100% as a Forces member? You guys are so touchy it's cute. Spectrum must be pretty full with you guys on it, whooo boy.
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Goobs posted:Why, when it's so easy to get you guys going? Can you source where it says I have to agree with the decisions the PM makes 100% as a Forces member? You guys are so touchy it's cute. You're disagreeing by calling him an idiot, and probably worse and doing so publicly and online. THAT you loving idiot is what you are NOT permitted to loving do as a serving member. You can say a shitload of other stuff, there's a loving whole lot of things you can say to get your point across that we've been saying. YOU are going for the poo poo NOT permitted. Vadoc fucked around with this message at 03:31 on Aug 16, 2017 |
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Ultimate Shrek Fan posted:You're not allowed to poo poo talk your boss, moron. It has nothing to do with what side you're on, it's that you can't be actively engaged in politics while serving. You're not allowed to put election signs in your front yard, you're not allowed to poo poo talk the prime minister. Wrong. 19.44 - POLITICAL ACTIVITIES AND CANDIDATURE FOR OFFICE (1) For the purposes of this article: "political advertising" means advertising, the purpose of which is to gain support for the election of a candidate for federal, provincial or municipal office or to gain support for, or to encourage some action in support of, the maintenance or change of a policy that is the responsibility of government at the federal, provincial or municipal level; (publicité àcaractère politique) "political canvassing" means an activity by which an individual approaches another individual to gain support for the election of a candidate for federal, provincial or municipal office or to gain support for, or to encourage some action in support of, the maintenance or change of a policy that is the responsibility of government at the federal, provincial or municipal level; (sollicitation politique) "political meeting" means a meeting that is planned for a specific time and place and is designed to promote political action by those attending; (réunion politique) "political speech" means a speech, the purpose of which is to promote political action by those to whom it is addressed. (discours politique) (2) Except as otherwise authorized under the Canada Elections Act (Revised Statutes of Canada, 1985, Chapter E-2) or any other statute of the Parliament of Canada, a commanding officer shall ensure that any activity that takes place on a defence establishment, including a base or unit, under his command does not affect the actual or perceived political neutrality of the Canadian Forces and, in particular, no commanding officer shall: (a) except as provided in paragraph (6), allow a political meeting to be held or a political speech to be delivered on a defence establishment; (b) allow the display of political advertising anywhere on a defence establishment in areas exposed to public view; or (c) except as provided in paragraphs (4) and (5), allow political canvassing or the distribution of political advertising, other than by mail, anywhere on a defence establishment. (3) Subject to paragraph (7), paragraph (2) does not apply to any activity that takes place within the confines of a married quarter in Canada. (4) A commanding officer shall permit political canvassing and the distribution of political advertising to single quarters and married quarters if, having regard to security and privacy requirements, the canvassers or distributors can be given access to such quarters. (5) The Chief of the Defence Staff may authorize the broadcast, through Canadian Forces broadcasting facilities, of free-time political broadcasts. (6) In exceptional circumstances, and where no practical alternative location can be found, the Minister may authorize the use of a defence establishment or any part thereof for the conduct of a political meeting or the delivery of a political speech. (7) No member of the Regular Force shall: (a) take an active part in the affairs of a political organization or party; (b) make a political speech to electors, or announce himself or allow himself to be announced as a candidate, or prospective candidate, for election to the Parliament of Canada or a provincial legislature; or (c) except with the permission of the Chief of the Defence Staff, accept an office in a municipal corporation or other local government body or allow himself to be nominated for election to such office. (8) No officer or non-commissioned member shall organize or take part in a political meeting on a defence establishment. NOTES (A) Examples of meetings or speeches that might be considered to be political meetings or political speeches are those that are designed to: (a) solicit votes for a candidate in a federal, provincial or municipal election (b) solicit funds to support a candidate in a federal, provincial or municipal election or a political party; or (c) organize a lobby to maintain or change public policy at the federal, provincial or municipal level. (B) An example of a meeting or speech that might not be considered to be a political meeting or political speech is a meeting or speech that is designed to impart information but does not require or expect any specific solicited political action to follow as a result. The sign on your lawn is a myth that for some reason people still believe to this day. Tons of members have signs on their lawns, just not on PMQs. Vadoc posted:You're disagreeing by calling him an idiot, and probably worse and doing so publicly and online. THAT you loving idiot is what you are NOT permitted to loving do as a serving member. You guys have never actually read the loving QRO's, have you? Just regurgitating poo poo you've heard without even thinking about it like the hooker and starburst story from basic. Scary for future politics for sure...goddamn. The only caveat to all of this is if you say that what you are saying is the official opinions and views of the Canadian Armed Forces and you are not allowed to attend political rallies or events (I.e: showing up to a native event and being a racist). e: Misread your post. Goobs fucked around with this message at 03:41 on Aug 16, 2017 |
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ok, you got me, you can put signs in your yard just not in the pmqs. now, three things: - Why are you assuming that anti-trudeau poo poo is just him saying he doesn't like trudeau? - You can't poo poo talk the prime minister, as he is your commander - don't respond to the first point and Kazinsal posted:gently caress off
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Ultimate Shrek Fan posted:ok, you got me, you can put signs in your yard just not in the pmqs. Why are you assuming that anti-trudeau poo poo is just him saying he doesn't like trudeau? Im assuming that a Sgt isn't an idiot, sorry. You can't poo poo talk the prime minister, as he is your commander. k. can you define what is and what isn't poo poo talk please. is me saying i dont like him considered poo poo talk, and if so, is it considered poo poo talk by the courts? again, telling people to gently caress off because their viewpoints are different or you dont agree with them is pretty kiddo, but whatever..I'm not your dad.
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Goobs posted:Im assuming that a Sgt isn't an idiot, sorry. lmfao
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Goobs posted:Im assuming that a Sgt isn't an idiot, sorry.. That's certainly optimistic.
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Admitted it's been a few years since I've read the QR&O but at no point did I say "report people for saying they disagree with the pm" I said "report white supremacists" If we reported everyone who posted about Justine TurdNO there'd be even less people in uniform.
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This conversation is literally the reason the term "prejudicial to good order and discipline" exists. If you're publicly making statements likely to inspire contempt for elected leaders, expect someone to give you a hard time.
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Also the reason people told you to gently caress off had nothing to do "wrongthink" but it's because you made really dumb assumptions then doubled down by being real douchey about it in this post Goobs posted:Calm down snowflake. I'll put a trigger warning up next time for you. Just call me a Nazi because I disagree with your political views, that's what you lefties are good at.
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Anyone know the results of this?
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Aug 17, 2017 03:03
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I am headed for Kingston until Christmas. Anything cool I should do/try while I am there ?
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Check out your boy in the crazy overproduced video they just put out for the IG. https://www.facebook.com/TCInvictusEC/videos/957750644364703/
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MA-Horus posted:Admitted it's been a few years since I've read the QR&O but at no point did I say "report people for saying they disagree with the pm" I said "report white supremacists" White supremacists or really any racist group of course should be reported and if the Sgt that was being talked about was saying poo poo like that then yeah I get it. Anyway, canforgen and qr&o references for anyone who cares: canforgen 135/15 062/15 QR&O's 19.44, 19.14 and 19.36 tl:dr: you are allowed to have an opinion, a right that every Canadian has. you just cannot represent the forces with your opinions. edit: also it matters if you are in uniform or not as well when you voice these opinions. Goobs fucked around with this message at 06:23 on Aug 17, 2017 |
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Ultimate Shrek Fan posted:it's because you made really dumb assumptions then doubled down by being real douchey about it in this post yeah you're right, i admit it. I am guilty of getting defensive when I feel like im being piled on.
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Seriously, anyone hear about the fate of the proud boyz?Goobs posted:yeah you're right, i admit it. I am guilty of getting defensive when I feel like im being piled on. Everyone does.
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It's okay, man, this is a safe space. We've all been in the relish suits.
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I'm trying to think of a euphemism that works with relish The US marines have the green weenie, I'm sure we can come up with something. To switch topics, is there any issued kit that you guys use in civvy life? I turned all my poo poo in, but I'll admit to rebuying a field hat and ranger blanket for camping.
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I use the socks.
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MA-Horus posted:I'm trying to think of a euphemism that works with relish relish is gross enough on it's own to not need a euphemism. I unironically want a non-cadpat version of a rucksack for camping, they hold a lot of poo poo. Also I bought 2 ranger blankets, one for camping the other for hot as gently caress nights.
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Nope, haven't heard a thing about those boyz, it'll probably be in the news again after the review. Socks, shirts, field hat, and absolutely the thermals in the winter. There's other odds and ends but they're mostly stuff that I bought at the CANEX for extra convenience or basically inherited from my father from his own stash of kit after he had retired. I like to use a KFS set at work for my lunch and dinner and have my coffee in the green covered mug.
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also lol if you didn't lose a set of fleeces
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Ultimate Shrek Fan posted:also lol if you didn't lose a set of fleeces Those things are great for everything other than actual army poo poo
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inspection day posted:Those things are great for everything other than actual army poo poo I see you've never been posted to the prairies
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MA-Horus posted:I'm trying to think of a euphemism that works with relish Ranger blanket, thermals and socks. Boots for shovelling snow in the winter, hahahhaa.
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I kept my Mk I's because they are good boots
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I gave my dad all my fleeces because I am a stupid stupid idiot. my gf gives me poo poo about wearing the field cap when camping but gently caress it it's comfy and keeps me from getting horribly sunburned. Plus it's easy to toss in the bottom of the canoe when you realize "oh poo poo those rapids are closer than I thought WHERE'S MY HEMLET" and dries quick
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MA-Horus posted:my gf gives me poo poo about wearing the field cap i'd say your girlfriend's got some sense, but then she's dating you
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Ultimate Shrek Fan posted:i'd say your girlfriend's got some sense, but then she's dating you  You're not wrong.
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Ultimate Shrek Fan posted:I see you've never been posted to the prairies Don't get me wrong, they're comfy as gently caress and I'll wear one at home, but I've always felt like they just packed too big, weighed too much and took forever to actually dry after getting soaked.
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