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mojo1701a posted:The whole over-arching storylines are part of the reason why I stopped watching Doctor Who. I miss just episodes being fun instead of having to constantly set up arcs. Diamonds are Forever is hilarious to me because you go from Lazenby crying his eyes out and utterly destroyed by the death of his wife to Connery who clearly can't be hosed at this point and is just there for the money. He's so utterly disinterested I can't help but find it funny.
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Wheat Loaf posted:Bond movies really don't need to have some kind of overarching continuity and it's one of the things that's hampered Craig's run in the role. Being standalone stories never hurt them too much in the past (even the Blofeld trilogy with You Only Live Twice, On Her Majesty's Secret Service and Diamonds Are Forever all work well enough as standalone features). Same with Irene Adler, who goes from that cool woman who Holmes fixates on cos she managed to outsmart him, to a mastermind dominatrix.
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Fil5000 posted:Diamonds are Forever is hilarious to me because you go from Lazenby crying his eyes out and utterly destroyed by the death of his wife to Connery who clearly can't be hosed at this point and is just there for the money. He's so utterly disinterested I can't help but find it funny. I'll still defend that movie to this day because it's obvious Connery was just having fun. I mean, I know the plot was fantastical (not so much now since it's been done so much), but it still worked in its own way. As opposed to, say, A View to a Kill's Operation Main Strike (which was a rip-off of Goldfinger) or Die Another Day's Icarus.
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mojo1701a posted:I'll still defend that movie to this day because it's obvious Connery was just having fun. I mean, I know the plot was fantastical (not so much now since it's been done so much), but it still worked in its own way. View to a Kill's plan is brilliant because of how dumb Zorin's plan is. Diamonds has Mr Wint and Mr Kidd who are probably my favourite henchmen (well, maybe tied with Xenia Onatopp). Die Another Day is just loving trash from beginning to end.
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starkebn posted:titular lines fuckin' suck Salt and Fire can go jump in a lake for many things, but mainly this. "So as part of this out-of-place monologue, you're going to say the title of the film." "Isn't that a little...campy?" "No. Also please look directly into the camera as you say the title okay" "Seriously this is corny as heck and I'm not comfortable doing it" "ACTION!"
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"I can give you the world, James." "The world is not enough." I saw it in theatres, imagine 30+ people groaning in unison.
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Imagined posted:How? Daenerys is the daughter of the previous King. Jon is the previous king's grandson and Daenerys' nephew. Because same reason Cerci didn't become Queen when Robert died. It's always the first male heir, so Joffery became king, then her other son did. She was only Queen Regent, a stand in until her son got married. THEN she became queen because there were no males left in the lineage. It's also why they went through killing off any potential bastards of Robert's, so there would be no one to contest the throne. When the Mad King died, it would have been Raegar that was next in line, but Robert saw to that. Danys other brother would have been next, and it's why he was trying to get the Dothraki on his side, but he hosed that up. So, Dany was the only Targeryan left, so she had the "rights" to the throne, female or not. Now that it's come out that not only is Jon a Targeryan, he's also not a bastard, so he's got the claim to the throne because he's the first male heir. Not that Cersi or Dany is just gonna go "welp it's all yours" and turn over the throne/claim to the throne, but as far as actual legitimacy is concerned, the throne is his.
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Strom Cuzewon posted:Same with Irene Adler, who goes from that cool woman who Holmes fixates on cos she managed to outsmart him, to a mastermind dominatrix. I'm less bothered by her being a dominatrix than by the fact that (iirc) she doesn't actually outsmart Holmes. I feel like that's taking away one of the big things about the character, the reason why she made such an impact despite having a grand total of one appearance in the Conan Doyle stories: that she outwitted Sherlock Holmes.  I don't know who's played the best Adler in adaptations but I think the prize has to go to Elementary for doing something unusual with the character. Edit: But seriously, Sherlock is one of my favourite sci-fi/superhero TV shows. 
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Her being a dominatrix is basically just reinforcing some uncomfortable trends with how Moffat writes women.
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Fil5000 posted:View to a Kill's plan is brilliant because of how dumb Zorin's plan is. Diamonds has Mr Wint and Mr Kidd who are probably my favourite henchmen (well, maybe tied with Xenia Onatopp). Die Another Day is just loving trash from beginning to end. Zorin's plan was literally Operation Grand Slam but microchips instead of gold, and a shitload of explosives instead of an atom bomb. He even has the same meeting scene to show his plan where he kills the one obvious dissenter. A lot of the older Bond movies have small filmmaking errors (hell, You Only Live Twice is downright sloppy in some moments), but they're still fun. Hell, I'll even give Moonraker a pass because of just how balls-out crazy with space it was. Having said that, I'll never not notice how slow Roger Moore is on the gunbarrel draw starting with The Spy Who Loved Me. That's an IIMM.
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mojo1701a posted:Having said that, I'll never not notice how slow Roger Moore is on the gunbarrel draw starting with The Spy Who Loved Me. That's an IIMM. The Spy Who Loved Me is my joint favourite with Goldfinger but I think Moore was always too old. Having watched a good bit of The Saint recently, it's very clear why he was cast, but he was 45 when he made his first appearance as 007 (i.e. the age Bond mentions as mandatory retirement in - I think - the Moonraker novel). Not sure who would've been better. Looking at the list of actors who were considered to replace Connery (the first time, for OHMSS) by Broccoli and Salzman, I think Oliver Reed would've been best, but I'm pretty sure he already had a reputation for being a piece of work by then. (I think Jeremy Brett was talked about as well but I'm not sure if it was the first or second time Connery exited.) Wheat Loaf has a new favorite as of 20:41 on Aug 15, 2017 |
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Aug 15, 2017 20:38
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mojo1701a posted:Having said that, I'll never not notice how slow Roger Moore is on the gunbarrel draw starting with The Spy Who Loved Me. That's an IIMM. Moore hated guns. Watch him shoot, any time he fires a gun and you can see his face, he visibly winces and closes his eyes.
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Memento posted:Moore hated guns. Watch him shoot, any time he fires a gun and you can see his face, he visibly winces and closes his eyes. On QI they had a fact about the only two actors who never blinked when firing a gun in a film at least according to the hollywood guy who handled shooting in most major productions of the era. I think the other was McQueen.
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EmmyOk posted:On QI they had a fact about the only two actors who never blinked when firing a gun in a film at least according to the hollywood guy who handled shooting in most major productions of the era. I think the other was McQueen. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTKT4_-2Mcg
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I can never remember the second person correctly! I always though Eastwood had an advantage because he's permanently scowling and squinting.
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It never fails to annoy me when someone's looking in the fridge, then they shut the door revealing someone standing behind the fridge door! Then the first person is startled. From the camera's point of view, sure, it is quite sudden. But for the person looking in the fridge, it is pretty weird to be in a position to shut the door where you wouldn't already see them. You'd have to be looking in the fridge at a diagonal for no real reason. And no fridge door is that wide and that high... in real life you'd see some legs under the door or an arm past the side.
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EmmyOk posted:On QI they had a fact about the only two actors who never blinked when firing a gun in a film at least according to the hollywood guy who handled shooting in most major productions of the era. I think the other was McQueen. Jason Patric trained so that he wouldn't blink while firing when he played the T-1000
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EmmyOk posted:On QI they had a fact about the only two actors who never blinked when firing a gun in a film at least according to the hollywood guy who handled shooting in most major productions of the era. I think the other was McQueen. To be fair, blanks produce more muzzle flash than live ammo, so it's not entirely "Wussy actors can't handle guns like a real man."
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WeAreTheRomans posted:Jason Patric trained so that he wouldn't blink while firing when he played the T-1000
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Of all movies, the first Underworld movie ruined me for the whole blinking-while-shooting thing, because they specifically allocated time to training Kate Beckinsale to not blink when firing.
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Memento posted:Moore hated guns. Watch him shoot, any time he fires a gun and you can see his face, he visibly winces and closes his eyes. Yeah, I remember hearing that. I'm talking about how he turns so slowly to the camera just so he can fire on time. I can't not notice it anymore. I know it's completely irrational, but it bugs me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIb5o3AmdjI
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Cage posted:Robert Patrick? gently caress every time I think I have the right one, I saye the other one 
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Cage posted:Robert Patrick? Patrick Steward.
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mojo1701a posted:Zorin's plan was literally Operation Grand Slam but microchips instead of gold, and a shitload of explosives instead of an atom bomb. He even has the same meeting scene to show his plan where he kills the one obvious dissenter. Am I wrong in thinking that the majority of chip fabs are not actually in silicon valley then? Because that's why I thought it wouldn't work. Moonraker gets a pass from me based on Drax alone.
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Fil5000 posted:View to a Kill's plan is brilliant because of how dumb Zorin's plan is. Diamonds has Mr Wint and Mr Kidd who are probably my favourite henchmen (well, maybe tied with Xenia Onatopp). Die Another Day is just loving trash from beginning to end. Die Another Day had a cool sword fight scene... That's about it. Those cheesy special effects really drag that movie down. mojo1701a posted:Yeah, I remember hearing that. I'm talking about how he turns so slowly to the camera just so he can fire on time. I can't not notice it anymore. Connery's got the Patented Knee Wobble. Always bugs me.
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Jobbo_Fett posted:Die Another Day had a cool sword fight scene... That's about it. Those cheesy special effects really drag that movie down. Fun fact: that was meant to be a springboard for a new series headlined by Halle Berry as Jinx. I think there are versions of the movie poster where she's positioned in front of Pierce Brosnan. quote:Connery's got the Patented Knee Wobble. Always bugs me. Brosnan does the best gun barrel scene but Brosnan's just the best movie Bond.
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Daniel Craig is the best bond tbqh then Connery
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Aug 16, 2017 13:33
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Brosnan got better as the movies got worse.
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I don't know, I think he was phoning it in by the time he got to Die Another Day. Pretty sure he even let his accent slip in that one. "I spent so lawng in that Nairth Kareen prison" etc.
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Wheat Loaf posted:I don't know, I think he was phoning it in by the time he got to Die Another Day. Pretty sure he even let his accent slip in that one. Brosnans accent has never been definably Irish or British. He's somewhat like Aidan Gillen where it's just all over the map and occasionally veers into piratical territory The important thing is that after Mamma Mia! he is never allowed to sing in public again
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Aidan Gillen and Michael Fassbender fall into the "Great actors who cannot hide their accents or do any others". Michael Fassbender's final monologue in X-Men First Class is gas because the big kerry head on him can't help over doing it.
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I can't exactly remember (and can't check because the work computer's going through one of its temperamental phases where it blocks YouTube  ) but did Brosnan use a kind of Transatlantic accent when he played Remington Steele?I remember Moore developed one when he was playing Simon Templar in the 60s (so he sounded British enough to be exotic to the American audience but not too British so as to put them off).
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Wheat Loaf posted:Fun fact: that was meant to be a springboard for a new series headlined by Halle Berry as Jinx. I think there are versions of the movie poster where she's positioned in front of Pierce Brosnan. I remember this. The way she and Michael Madsen were written makes this even more evident. Fil5000 posted:Am I wrong in thinking that the majority of chip fabs are not actually in silicon valley then? Because that's why I thought it wouldn't work. You can tell that it was written in a time where "computers = magic" and all they knew is that Silicon Valley, microchips and computers are somehow associated. And yeah, for anything that can be said about Moonraker, they certainly didn't half-rear end it, especially when it came to Drax. Except Dr. Goodhead. She wasn't very good. Jobbo_Fett posted:Connery's got the Patented Knee Wobble. Always bugs me. And Lazenby's opening treadmills slightly.
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Roger Moore seems to have a tiny skinny twiglet thigh on his foremost leg when he does his gun barrel bit.
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Was in the breakroom today and something called CSI: Cyber come on. Short version:  Long version: Driverless car hacked into killing someone by very slowly driving head-on into their car despite the victim wearing a seatbelt, hologram reconstructions of poo poo they couldn't have possibly known, the guy from Cheers roleplaying as a dessicated corpse. I would like to nominate the entire thing as a most irritating moment. The only irrational part was the plot.
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My top IIMM win Brosnan is in the beginning of "Thomas Crown Affair" where he folds the painting in half with the trick briefcase. Otherwise, it's a great movie, but that one scene bugs the hell out of me.
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I remember watching an episode of one of those "does this thing from a movie actually work" shows in school; one of them was the scene in that movie where he increases the temperature of the room to blind the heat sensitive cameras, and I can't remember whether it was judged plausible or not because the entire class was distracted by "Wait a minute, did he just gently caress up the painting he was trying to steal?"
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NoneMoreNegative posted:Roger Moore seems to have a tiny skinny twiglet thigh on his foremost leg when he does his gun barrel bit. My favourite is the Die another Day opening where they just had to go "uber cool!" and have the bullet that Bond fires literally flying into the other gun barrel/screen. Its like the creators forgot it was meant to be the inside of a gun ffs.
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Wheat Loaf posted:I remember watching an episode of one of those "does this thing from a movie actually work" shows in school; one of them was the scene in that movie where he increases the temperature of the room to blind the heat sensitive cameras, and I can't remember whether it was judged plausible or not because the entire class was distracted by "Wait a minute, did he just gently caress up the painting he was trying to steal?" I've seen at least one show that did that (Googling shows it was Hollywood Science from the Open University, shown on the BBC, theres an episode summary here; http://www.open.edu/openlearn/body-mind/ou-on-the-bbc-hollywood-science-break-ins?in_menu=12642), IIRC (the summary doesnt give the conclusions) it is just about POSSIBLE to blind a heat sensor in a completely sealed room to about body temp, but it would take ages in a room the size of the art gallery in the movie, and its really difficult to get right. They then brought the room back down to normal temperature and beat the heat sensor first time by throwing a quilted duvet over their heads. That absorbed their body heat long enough to walk to the painting, take it down, and walk out again. Brosnan shuffling around with a quilt over his head like a poo poo ghost would maybe not have looked great in a film mind you.
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Inescapable Duck posted:Brosnan got better as the movies got worse. He was a fantastic Bond, but the majority of the movies he was in were so bad no one will remember him as one of the best. It's too bad, even in the lovely ones he was really good
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