|
Blue Train posted:like a half dozen now that they made the yt messaging app there's hangouts still, which is not getting any features or staffing and interops with old chat which is way dead there's allo the whatsapp clone that is on desktop too now there's g+ messenger still I think? there's the straight up android sms client there's the new enterprise slack clone coming in gsuite that i can't remember the external name of apparently youtube has something lol
|
#
?
Aug 16, 2017 08:00
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 30, 2024 16:27 |
|
|
Fuzzy Mammal posted:there's hangouts still, which is not getting any features or staffing and interops with old chat which is way dead hangouts last update actually forced me to move all my sms out of it and shut off its sms feature for good so all the ppl i hangouts with just mutually decided sms and group mms is fine cuz gently caress switching to another chat service that will be dead in a year. also allo app is like actively hostile to human interaction.
|
|
#
?
Aug 16, 2017 08:04
|
|
|
cis autodrag posted:in this analogy sealion should be mentally swapped with "mra" or "nazi" or "incel" or whatever. the type of person who tries to turn "racism is bad" into some kind of debate on what racial attributes acceptable for discrimination and whatnot. like most jokes, its obviously not funny if you dont have the context. But the man and woman are both well-dressed and white and driving a very old car (which either means they are collectors of antiques or that the cartoon is set at a time making the car contemporary but an extreme luxury) indicating a higher-than-average SES. I see a rich white woman talking poo poo about her supposed inferiors and getting stung for it and a rich white man not wanting to rock the boat and getting stung by his wife's bigotry (and his milquetoast refusal to stand up to the bigotry). Schadenboner fucked around with this message at 08:25 on Aug 16, 2017 |
|
#
?
Aug 16, 2017 08:11
|
|
|
Sagebrush posted:they knew exactly what they had, which was "something they couldn't use to sell ads"
|
|
#
?
Aug 16, 2017 08:23
|
|
|
xep 0166 now that brings me back. the real issue is hangouts text was brought on to the same tech stack as the g+ news feed when all they needed was the group video chat, and rather than fix it they decided to start over with allo except network effects in an im solution are incredibly massive and they just gave all that up to do so.
|
|
#
?
Aug 16, 2017 08:29
|
|
|
Schadenboner posted:But the man and woman are both well-dressed and white and driving a very old car (which either means they are collectors of antiques or that the cartoon is set at a time making the car contemporary but an extreme luxury) indicating a higher-than-average SES. stop posting. if you're doing a bit, it's not funny.
|
|
#
?
Aug 16, 2017 08:47
|
|
|
Fuzzy Mammal posted:there's hangouts still, which is not getting any features or staffing and interops with old chat which is way dead g+ messenger is gone it disappeared when they were putting google voice (which should prob. be on the list) and sms into hangouts
|
|
#
?
Aug 16, 2017 08:48
|
|
|
Wheany posted:stop posting. if you're doing a bit, it's not funny. im not sure i like what it says about me that i unironically took it in exactly the way he described i dont use any kind of social media so maybe thats why
|
|
#
?
Aug 16, 2017 08:51
|
|
|
Wheany posted:stop posting. if you're doing a bit, it's not funny. he is right tho. that cartoon is lovely, and if it had good intentions it communicated them poorly
|
|
#
?
Aug 16, 2017 09:07
|
|
|
e: w000t double posst
|
|
#
?
Aug 16, 2017 09:07
|
|
|
LastInLine posted:im not sure i like what it says about me that i unironically took it in exactly the way he described Same. It's me, I was the bad person all along. Also I'm a brown non-american maybe that might explain it too?
|
|
#
?
Aug 16, 2017 09:23
|
|
|
Also, lol at the idea that people who complain about 'sea lions' are having political arguments forced on them. Most people who complain about 'sea lions' are pretty political people and love talking and complaining about politics. It takes two to tango.
|
|
#
?
Aug 16, 2017 11:09
|
|
|
anthonypants posted:also it was xmpp, xmpp is poo poo, and it wasn't a standard that they had complete ownership of and you could use third party clients which is likely the reason facebook made a bespoke solution too
|
|
#
?
Aug 16, 2017 13:05
|
|
|
for a hot minute in 2006 everything piped through ichat and if it handled sms then itd have been a comms powerhouse
|
|
#
?
Aug 16, 2017 13:06
|
|
|
Shifty Pony posted:you would think that Google ADHD would kick in and they would abandon Android, but you need to realize that Android enables them to start and abandon new apps and services easier so it is going to stick around. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Fuchsia
|
|
#
?
Aug 16, 2017 13:40
|
|
|
Agile Vector posted:for a hot minute in 2006 everything piped through ichat and if it handled sms then itd have been a comms powerhouse i remember i started using ichat in earnest and then a year later they changed it 
|
|
#
?
Aug 16, 2017 13:42
|
|
|
msn messenger just worked until they started loving with it
|
|
#
?
Aug 16, 2017 13:47
|
|
|
Endless Mike posted:they're working on it, actually. hah of course they are. I do wonder if it is just them hedging their bets for the eventual antitrust action against the anti-forking provisions in their device manufacturer agreement. as soon as Samsung can make an AOSP based phone without having to drop their official Google Android product line, Google loses control of the platform and will have to switch to licensing the entire OS (instead of just their apps) to regain it.
|
|
#
?
Aug 16, 2017 14:08
|
|
|
Shifty Pony posted:hah of course they are. so tizen? and goog is going to dump android the way it does every other thing that people like in favor of fuschia?
|
|
#
?
Aug 16, 2017 14:18
|
|
|
Tizen isn't compatible with android apps (without using a dodgy application compatibility layer) and developing for it directly requires using Enlightenment Foundation Libraries. google's is scared of a samsung made Facebook phone running Facebook's own App Store, where thanks to it being AOSP developers can just drop their Google Play apps without much tweaking beyond changing "Google Wallet" to "Facebook Payments".
|
|
#
?
Aug 16, 2017 14:31
|
|
|
fuchsia is going to be a unified IoT / smart glass environment from the way they’re fluffing it up (RTOS! embedded)
|
|
#
?
Aug 16, 2017 15:07
|
|
|
Silver Alicorn posted:fuchsia is going to be a unified IoT / smart glass environment from the way they’re fluffing it up (RTOS! embedded) so is Linux?
|
|
#
?
Aug 16, 2017 15:08
|
|
|
google pays apple $3 billion per year to be the default search engine on the iPhone. they pay Samsung nothing because it's an android requirement. they can't turn their back on Samsung
|
|
#
?
Aug 16, 2017 15:12
|
|
|
Silver Alicorn posted:fuchsia is going to be a unified IoT / smart glass environment from the way they’re fluffing it up (RTOS! embedded) it's wankery by people who figured out how to get paid for just screwing around
|
|
#
?
Aug 16, 2017 15:22
|
|
|
The Management posted:it's wankery by people who figured out how to get paid for just screwing around that'll be "what is computer programming", alex
|
|
#
?
Aug 16, 2017 16:22
|
|
|
The Management posted:google pays apple $3 billion per year to be the default search engine on the iPhone. they pay Samsung nothing because it's an android requirement. they can't turn their back on Samsung i thought ms held that privilege now or is that just to be a horse in the race
|
|
#
?
Aug 16, 2017 17:26
|
|
|
searching for something for work and google is using "transparent" as a synonym for "opaque". gj there guys.
|
|
#
?
Aug 16, 2017 17:29
|
|
|
Fuzzy Mammal posted:there's hangouts still, which is not getting any features or staffing and interops with old chat which is way dead I though hangouts was one of the supported ones. what chat app are google ecosystem users expected to use?
|
|
#
?
Aug 16, 2017 19:10
|
|
|
Shifty Pony posted:Tizen isn't compatible with android apps (without using a dodgy application compatibility layer) and developing for it directly requires using Enlightenment Foundation Libraries. amazon fire phone
|
|
#
?
Aug 16, 2017 19:16
|
|
|
The Management posted:I though hangouts was one of the supported ones. if it was any other demographic they could talk to people irl but "google ecosystem users" generally don't have that option
|
|
#
?
Aug 16, 2017 19:24
|
|
|
remember when Facebook made a phone then it failed and they made another phone
|
|
#
?
Aug 16, 2017 22:41
|
|
|
Wild EEPROM posted:remember when Facebook made a phone  some htc qwerty pos with a facebook button added to the lower bezel i think it may have been outsold by the amazon fire phone
|
|
#
?
Aug 16, 2017 22:44
|
|
|
wasn't that an og android reference design? e: nm, this was the "totally not a blackberry" prototype  w/bonus symbian s60 knockoff ui
|
|
#
?
Aug 16, 2017 22:48
|
|
|
infernal machines posted:wasn't that an og android reference design? this was the best anroid phone ever made (still totally garbage of course) and its been all downhill since
|
|
#
?
Aug 16, 2017 23:14
|
|
|
google is one of the few companies that would have been willing to dump the blackberry clone that late in the game, anyone else would have launched it then abandoned it quickly it's like the one time their goldfish memory product strategy actually helped
|
|
#
?
Aug 16, 2017 23:18
|
|
|
PCjr sidecar posted:amazon fire phone this existed (technically), and fire tablets continue to exist, because amazon uses an oem that doesn't otherwise make android devices.
|
|
#
?
Aug 16, 2017 23:24
|
|
|
qirex posted:google is one of the few companies that would have been willing to dump the blackberry clone that late in the game, anyone else would have launched it then abandoned it quickly well except they just bolted a touch ui on top of that poo poo instead
|
|
#
?
Aug 16, 2017 23:35
|
|
|
qirex posted:google is one of the few companies that would have been willing to dump the blackberry clone that late in the game, anyone else would have launched it then abandoned it quickly did google own android at that point?
|
|
#
?
Aug 16, 2017 23:35
|
|
|
yes also lmao quote:An early prototype had a close resemblance to a BlackBerry phone, with no touchscreen and a physical QWERTY keyboard, but the arrival of 2007's Apple iPhone meant that Android "had to go back to the drawing board".Google later changed its Android specification documents to state that "Touchscreens will be supported", although "the Product was designed with the presence of discrete physical buttons as an assumption, therefore a touchscreen cannot completely replace physical buttons".
|
|
#
?
Aug 16, 2017 23:40
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 30, 2024 16:27 |
|
|
qirex posted:google is one of the few companies that would have been willing to dump the blackberry clone that late in the game, anyone else would have launched it then abandoned it quickly it did work, though supposedly the blackberry execs' response to the iphone was "that's literally impossible, they must be lying" and by the time they got their hands on one and saw it was all real, they were already hopelessly behind. notably i remember RIM believed there was no way in hell that apple could get the battery life they were claiming, and then it turned out that the iphone was just a giant battery inside and the real innovation was cramming all the logic into a tiny board along the top. whoops
|
|
#
?
Aug 16, 2017 23:46
|
|
