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lezard_valeth posted:They made the right call this time. The dragon dieing really teared me up a bit even though a) I knew it was coming and b) it's fantasy CGI. Had they killed another minor good character like Tormund or the Hound, the dragon dieing shortly after would have overshadowed it, and that is no fitting way to off the Hound or Tormund Giantsbane We haven't gotten Cleganebowl yet, so The Hound can't die. Besides, he's going to end up with Brienne and they will have many very, very tall children. I'm actually really, really surprised that Beric survived. What exactly is his place going to be in the story moving forward?
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grack posted:I'm actually really, really surprised that Beric survived. What exactly is his place going to be in the story moving forward? Spiritual leader maybe? The red god is the only one that the story has shown to have any legitimacy, and Thoros is dead, and Melisandre has pledged to die.
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Pac-Manioc Root posted:the way the ice javelin flies like 3,000 feet wobbling weirdly after being thrown looks goofy, they should have added a bunch of CGI sparkles and made it more obviously magical. Some something like 
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He comes back as the devil who restores order to the corrupt town after a crazed shaman performs ritual human sacrifice in order to purge the town of said devil.
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Aug 16, 2017 18:53
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Good episode. The banter between the Hound and Tormund is hilarious: "Dick..I like it." "I bet you do."
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Aug 16, 2017 18:55
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I had a lot of thoughts I dumped in The Bad Thread when I was high last night and I'm too lazy to type them again:esperterra posted:The leaked episode six is pretty good, but has some stupid poo poo in it. I enjoyed it very much.
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Aug 16, 2017 18:56
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The whole first half was the fellowship exchanging banter in such a way that they wanted you to think they were going to die. That was pretty obvious. And creepy Arya and the forced conflict was annoying. But apart from that, noice.
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Aug 16, 2017 18:58
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lmao "Yo Gendry, my man, we are being attacked by some pretty bad hombres here in this very instance. Be a sport and run back to Eastwatch, send a letter to Danny and tell her to get her rear end over here. Tell her to take the earliest flight possible. Will hold them off till tomorrow." I swear the writers are now loving with us, no way this is not deliberate. Even the absolute Idon'tgiveasinglefuck solution of just giving her a prophetic dream or a vision in the fire or something would have been a million times better.
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Aug 16, 2017 18:59
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They should have established Bran as the official carrier of Westeros and have him be middle man to conversations done via tree.
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Aug 16, 2017 19:01
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Seph posted:They showed two days pass on screen. The exact amount of time it would have taken Dany to get there. Unless I missed another day/night transition, they only spend a night on the rock and the dead start crossing the lake again that morning.
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Captain Splendid posted:The whole first half was the fellowship exchanging banter in such a way that they wanted you to think they were going to die. That was pretty obvious. Yeah Arya taking Littlefinger's bait is annoying to watch. That being said she is an angsty teen orphan with murderous tendencies, so in that context her actions make a bit more sense. She's clearly jealous of Sansa's beauty and elegance on some level and now she has the power to do something about it. Also, re: time chat, Sansa literally said "It's been weeks since I've heard anything from Jon" implying that he's been gone for months. The writers are giving deliberate clues that it's been a lot of time and people are willfully ignoring them (or just retarded). Seph fucked around with this message at 19:11 on Aug 16, 2017 |
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Aug 16, 2017 19:05
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This Ep did remind me of "Why didn't they just fly an eagle to Mount Doom to begin with?" Why didn't they just fly a dragon over the wall to catch a wight to begin with?
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qbert posted:This Ep did remind me of "Why didn't they just fly an eagle to Mount Doom to begin with?" Because Danaerys didn't initially want to commit that hard to the idea of the Night King as the greater foe?
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That's an even dumber question than the one about the eagles honestly, the whole reason they are out to find a wight is because the lady with the dragons didn't believe they were real enough to give a poo poo about. Except in this episode she changes her mind because uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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I think everyone knows time is passing. My problem is it not being reflected in the writing. Jon and Dany have spent a month together and it feels like their only conversations have been the 4 or so we've seen. Plus the whole overnight raven to Dragonstone from the wall and Dany flying up past the wall was a bit much for a show that wants us to think time has any meaning. My thing is either a. have time passed reflect in the writing or b. stop acting like this season has spanned a month or two+. It's not the end of the world, but it's fun to bitch about. e: ^^^ fwiw they're catching a wight to convince Cersei, not Dany.
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She wants to impress her nephew before she bones him.
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GaussianCopula posted:Why would they care? i would imagine its annoying to have people steal something you've worked on and toiled over for months
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Rygar201 posted:Because Danaerys didn't initially want to commit that hard to the idea of the Night King as the greater foe? That totally made sense at the time until she changed her mind completely based on no evidence but a letter from the Wall?
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Seph posted:Yeah Arya taking Littlefinger's bait is annoying to watch. That being said she is an angsty teen orphan with murderous tendencies, so in that context her motivations make sense. She's clearly jealous of Sansa's beauty and elegance on some level and now she has the power to do something about it. If it has been months, why did they wait so long to tell Jon that Bran and Arya are alive? You can't spin your way out of this lovely writing, braver and smarter man than you and me have tried and failed at this. I kinda get where they were going with the Arya plot. After all, Sansa was directly responsible for Ned's death and it could plausibly cause tension between them. Arya is also just plain paranoid and psychotic now. But it's not very well done and her actor can't really pull it off. (Sansa's actor is doing fine though IMO)
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Maybe HBO Spain shouldn't have accidentally aired it, then. This time it was 100% them and not on the hackers.
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esperterra posted:I think everyone knows time is passing. My problem is it not being reflected in the writing. Jon and Dany have spent a month together and it feels like their only conversations have been the 4 or so we've seen. IMO that's not fair. I think Jon and Dany have clearly become closer each time they interact with each other. The first scene together they are tense, feeling each other out, refusing to acknowledge the other's request, and generally contrary to each other. You can see the trust grow between them as Dany starts to ask Jon what he would do, let him mine the dragon glass, etc. It then turned into romantic tension last episode which paid off this episode during the boat scene. Seph fucked around with this message at 19:19 on Aug 16, 2017 |
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They really should've emphasized how flying that far that quickly took its toll on Dany and the dragons. She should've looked like she spent a red eye flight in a wind turbine, and her dragons should have been loving exhausted. Have Jon or Jorah or whoever mention how sluggish they're moving, and then bam, Night King nails the slow moving Viserion with the ice javelin. Instead Dany looks like she just stepped out of hair and makeup, and the dragons are none the worse for wear.
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Aug 16, 2017 19:18
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qbert posted:This Ep did remind me of "Why didn't they just fly an eagle to Mount Doom to begin with?" She tells Jon on the boat that she had to see it to know how grave a threat it really is
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I'm just glad that the last conversation between Jon and Daenerys made sense. This episode was really the first time since they've met that Jon actually saw the side of Dany that all of her advisors talked about - she was willing to make a great personal sacrifice to save his life and didn't regret doing so. It makes perfect sense that Jon was willing to pledge his allegiance after all that. I still don't think Clarke and Harrington have a lot of chemistry but at least it was better.
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In It For The Tank posted:They really should've emphasized how flying that far that quickly took its toll on Dany and the dragons. She should've looked like she spent a red eye flight in a wind turbine, and her dragons should have been loving exhausted. Have Jon or Jorah or whoever mention how sluggish they're moving, and then bam, Night King nails the slow moving Viserion with the ice javelin. If they were gonna be that realistic she would've died from exposure shortly after takeoff.
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In It For The Tank posted:They really should've emphasized how flying that far that quickly took its toll on Dany and the dragons. She should've looked like she spent a red eye flight in a wind turbine, and her dragons should have been loving exhausted. Have Jon or Jorah or whoever mention how sluggish they're moving, and then bam, Night King nails the slow moving Viserion with the ice javelin. Agreed. Similarly the magnificent seven looked pretty good after spending a night in the cold surrounded by a frozen lake and thousands of zombies (except Thoros).
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Raspberry Jam It In Me posted:I kinda get where they were going with the Arya plot. After all, Sansa was directly responsible for Ned's death and it could plausibly cause tension between them. Arya is also just plain paranoid and psychotic now. But it's not very well done and her actor can't really pull it off. (Sansa's actor is doing fine though IMO) Yeah, at least the miscommunications and nonsense in Winterfell I can buy b/c it's two highly traumatized girls and a robot, so sure they haven't had many chats in the weeks or months they've been reunited. It's stupid af but it does at least have a decent explanation. Agreed Sophie Turner is doing some good work here, too. Maisie was ... fine, but the character is acting so petulant and stupid. There's something really dirty about the writers turning a moment of shared trauma they could have bonded over (both being there when Ned lost his head) into a really awkward reason for Arya to yell at Sansa, all so the audience believes Littlefinger is playing them, before the sisters kill him next week. In other news I liked the scene where Sansa sends Brienne away, which I'd hope is exactly why she said (she's not walking back into Cersei's hands, and what would the lords of Winterfell do if she left her seat? They're already antsy about Jon leaving to get allies, I can't see them being happy about Sansa leaving to meet with Lannisters) and not just because Littlefinger implied Brienne will protect Arya.
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Seph posted:IMO that's not fair. I think Jon and Dany have clearly become closer each time they interact with each other. The first scene together they are tense, feeling each other out, refusing to acknowledge the other's request, and generally contrary to each other. You can see the trust grow between them as Dany starts to ask Jon what he would do, let him mine the dragon glass, etc. It then turned into romantic tension last episode which paid off this episode during the boat scene. I just don't see it. Other than, maybe, that awful scene in the cave, I don't buy that these two have interacted enough to grow fond of one another in the four or however episodes they've been on Dragonstone. The scene in this episode was a step up and did more legwork than the season combined to make me believe they have any sort of platonic connection, let alone a romantic one. The scene where Jon pets Drogon was a decent one, too. There was barely any dialogue so they weren't expositing at one another.
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What I dont understand is why Jon was all that time in Dragonstone when, considering the travel times, he could be back for dinner at Winterfell every night to keep those big lordly babies happy with their king being there form them
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I mean at this point its already established that we have a waypoint portal near each capital
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Constant posted:She tells Jon on the boat that she had to see it to know how grave a threat it really is What better way to "see it to know" than to pilot the mission in the first place?
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qbert posted:What better way to "see it to know" than to pilot the mission in the first place? she didnt think it was that big a deal until they sent a message saying: hey uh..we're surrounded and about to die up here
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Constant posted:i would imagine its annoying to have people steal something you've worked on and toiled over for months You realize they get paid the same either way, right? And HBO brags about how much GoT gets pirated? They just want people to watch the show. They don't care how as long as they're making money. It's the executives at HBO who care about poo poo like early leaks. esperterra posted:There's something really dirty about the writers turning a moment of shared trauma they could have bonded over (both being there when Ned lost his head) into a really awkward reason for Arya to yell at Sansa, all so the audience believes Littlefinger is playing them, before the sisters kill him next week. 
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WampaLord posted:You realize they get paid the same either way, right? And HBO brags about how much GoT gets pirated? I have an obscene interest in how high powered bigwigs talk to each other when one or the other fucks up I really hope they reconcile the fact that this was a prepared trap and: 1. How did the NK know of the existence of dragons? 2. How did he know of the expedition and the groups possible ties to dragons? I think the NK been warging into Bran this whole time and thats why his personality is so hosed.
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Constant posted:she didnt think it was that big a deal until they sent a message saying: hey uh..we're surrounded and about to die up here Also Tyrion told her that Jon wanted to bone her, which she had not noticed, and is a complete game changer
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Constant posted:1. How did the NK know of the existence of dragons? Magic. Constant posted:2. How did he know of the expedition and the groups possible ties to dragons? Magic. Constant posted:I think the NK been warging into Bran this whole time and thats why his personality is so hosed. Isn't that literally what happened in Harry Potter 5?
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Constant posted:she didnt think it was that big a deal until they sent a message saying: hey uh..we're surrounded and about to die up here They didn't though, they send a message that they were under attack. The whole scenario where they discover an itzy bitzy tiny island, surrounded by extremely thin ice that only brakes once, but never twice when people walk over it is so loving ridiculous that nobody could have ever foreseen it. There is absolutely no reason to send Gendry on a trip around the world, unless you have read the script.
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Constant posted:I have an obscene interest in how high powered bigwigs talk to each other when one or the other fucks up I didn't get the impression that it was a pre-planned trap by the white walkers. I thought they were staying far away from the action because they know they are vulnerable now and want to stay safe. Similar to commanders who often stay behind their troops in battle. Yes they had the spear but maybe it's just a generic magic spear and not something specific to dragons? It's definitely possible it was a trap but I don't buy it 100% without more evidence.
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WampaLord posted:I can already tell what will be the Goony Derail Point for this episode. Frozen lakes don't work that way
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