F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:Just caught up after pages and pages of new developments. I attended Heather's funeral at the Paramount, and I'm glad to say that I didn't see a single Nazi in the vicinity. Police were swarming the Mall, but I think they probably knew not to come here after what happened. I'm very glad to hear the guys that were talking about showing up to cause problems were just all bluster.
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moostaffa posted:LOL, the "star" of the Vice Charlotteville video "If I had been allowed to bring my gun, I wouldn't have felt compelled to be preemptively violent" Making a great case for yourself there buddy.
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# ? Aug 16, 2017 20:23 |
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holy poo poo Sessions is enthusiastically telling a story about someone raping an old lady, in great detail "it's not an aberration, really"
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Jeff needs an oxygen tube.
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Autism Sneaks posted:lmao you can't even be nice to the people mostly agreeing with you from a couple pages back but hey rear end in a top hat just so you know any Jewish person could see through your anti-semitic dogwhistle bullshit in a second when you were arguing with evilweasel, and you can go gently caress off. This was his post that started it btw Autism Sneaks posted:Why does anti-Semitism get a call out when the catch-all racial bigotry is more germaine? I know there were neo-Nazis there, but it was a protest over a Confederate statue. And its especially loving hilarious when Bibi Jr. was just on the record calling BLM "thugs" lmao why talk about anti-semitism when noted (((Jew))) the son of right-wing rear end in a top hat bibi is a right wing rear end in a top hat?
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# ? Aug 16, 2017 20:24 |
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Deified Data posted:Run a social democrat. Inspire the base, run someone who's politics are so sexy they'll forgive small transgressions.That's it, it's that simple. Well, I hope that happens. I do worry that the logistics of the race will be such an uphill climb that policy won't be the deciding factor at all. Trump and the GOP still have plenty of time to hit the gas on voter suppression efforts and plenty of time to lay the groundwork to kill the reputations of any Democratic rising stars, establishment or otherwise, before the primary even begins. I don't think it'll be impossible, but I bet it's going to be even harder than 2016, even if Trump's approval stays in the shitter.
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coyo7e posted:holy poo poo Sessions is enthusiastically telling a story about someone raping an old lady, in great detail He's just telling the press about his weird fetishes now so that later they can't claim he hid them.
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Harrow posted:Well, I hope that happens. Democrats can, and should, work on winning as many state level positions in 2018 to begin rolling that poo poo back ahead of 2020. It's important not to neglect the state level this time.
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# ? Aug 16, 2017 20:26 |
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Deified Data posted:Run a social democrat. Inspire the base, run someone who's politics are so sexy they'll forgive small transgressions.That's it, it's that simple. Yup. There's a really good piece in NY Mag today that I posted in the Bad Dems thread, and it has this to say on the matter: (emphasis mine) quote:The strength of the populists’ case lies in a simple fact: Democrats have everything to gain by polarizing the electorate around issues of economics. In Drutman’s analysis, 73.5 percent of 2016 voters espoused broadly liberal views on economic policy. If people voted solely on the basis of their intuitions about how government should intervene in the economy (when interrogated about such matters by pollsters), Democrats would dominate all levels of government.
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# ? Aug 16, 2017 20:26 |
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Harrow posted:Well, I hope that happens. trump's as popular as dirt so i doubt he'll do very well killing the reputations of democrats who haven't done the work for him. voter suppression is a very real concern though
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https://twitter.com/dannowicki/status/897901934941687808 that will be interesting if it happens and mcconnell will be piiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiissed
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# ? Aug 16, 2017 20:27 |
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He is the least threatening lawman I've ever seen, it's like Mister Magoo telling a kid to get off his lawn or he'll turn on the sprinkler
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Jeff, you really need to figure out that threatening to withhold unrelated funding is not a great way to get your way. You are going to get your rear end in a top hat sued off your Elven body.
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evilweasel posted:Democrats can, and should, work on winning as many state level positions in 2018 to begin rolling that poo poo back ahead of 2020. It's important not to neglect the state level this time. Yeah exactly. Also Trump isn't going to have the entire media white washing him and making him look super fun this time because OBVIOUSLY he's going to lose so they can treat the entire election like a carnival freak show.
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# ? Aug 16, 2017 20:27 |
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Radish posted:I'm very glad to hear the guys that were talking about showing up to cause problems were just all bluster. Me too. I was a bit worried about going because of the threat of violence, but Charlottesville is my town, and I was damned if I was going to be scared away by a bunch of outside agitators. Also, I wanted to be a representative of my class.
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evilweasel posted:Democrats can, and should, work on winning as many state level positions in 2018 to begin rolling that poo poo back ahead of 2020. It's important not to neglect the state level this time. I'm in Wisconsin, so 2018 is going to be a big one for us.
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wait, he's now claiming that LESS people will report crimes if we don't crack down with mandatory minimums and deportation. He's getting into the Trump Wasteland stuff now
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evilweasel posted:https://twitter.com/dannowicki/status/897901934941687808 This is probably the best thing Flake could hope for....
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Shitshow posted:Has this been posted yet? Because it is so sweet. This is definitely going to last more than four hours.
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F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:Me too. I was a bit worried about going because of the threat of violence, but Charlottesville is my town, and I was damned if I was going to be scared away by a bunch of outside agitators. Also, I wanted to be a representative of my class. thank you for protesting those assholes
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coyo7e posted:wait, he's now claiming that LESS people will report crimes if we don't crack down with mandatory minimums and deportation. He's getting into the Trump Wasteland stuff now He's talking about "facts" and then stating his opinions.
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# ? Aug 16, 2017 20:29 |
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evilweasel posted:imagine being such a broke-brained idiot that your reaction to "the president is literally supporting neo-nazis" is to rush to start defining good liberals and bad liberals
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Harrow posted:Well, I hope that happens. Policy wasn't important in the last election, either. It had literally nothing to do with Hillary's policy positions*, but that she seemed "corrupt" or "lying". Coupled with the fact that her victory was seen as a foregone conclusion. *I get that people here have problems with them, but lol the general public doesn't have that nuanced an opinion.
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Deified Data posted:Run a social democrat. Inspire the base, run someone who's politics are so sexy they'll forgive small transgressions.That's it, it's that simple. This. Social democrats can represent pretty everything the left stands for without uttering the dread word "socialism".
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mcmagic posted:This is probably the best thing Flake could hope for.... nah: it may help Flake in the general, but he has to survive the primary first (and then keep the voters who trump convinced that he was an apostate traitor and get them to come out and vote)
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https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/897901625414737921
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Pembroke Fuse posted:This. Social democrats can represent pretty everything the left stands for without uttering the dread word "socialism". socialism's not really even a dread word anymore. bernie's the most popular politico in the nation despite embracing the term
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# ? Aug 16, 2017 20:31 |
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We have NO reason to harbor foreign criminals... Maybe they been run out of their own towns!
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theflyingorc posted:The answer to "how do we beat Trump in 2020" is to not "run" anyone. Let it be an actual primary, don't put your finger on the scale at all, and the winner shouldn't come out tainted. Condiv posted:
bird cooch posted:Lol, run a socialist for president? Sure go nuts. Better stand up a party from near scratch in less than a year.
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i'm glad people are finally dropping the idiotic horseshoe theory stuff
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# ? Aug 16, 2017 20:32 |
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SNIIIIIIIIFFF. three words here SNIFF four more words here SNIIIIIIIIFFFF
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DreamShipWrecked posted:This article sets out to attack the antifa but seems to justify their actions at every turn That's the point. It's a clickbait headline designed to get your attention and motivate you to engage. The internet has done really lovely things to journalism and discourse.
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Forgall posted:So you do think that in actual honest dem primary a socialist is going to win? i do believe one would win, yes and i believe one could beat trump
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A Bernie-style social democrat can do very well but an actual socialist with a platform of dismantling capitalism will get loving destroyed in any large-scale race in this country.
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Mechafunkzilla posted:A Bernie-style social democrat can do very well but an actual socialist with a platform of dismantling capitalism will get loving destroyed in any large-scale race in this country. Appropriately so
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Mechafunkzilla posted:A Bernie-style social democrat can do very well but an actual socialist with a platform of dismantling capitalism will get loving destroyed in any large-scale race in this country. Good.
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# ? Aug 16, 2017 20:34 |
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https://twitter.com/jeneps/status/897903871888175104 i think the strategy that the trump admin has settled on is to sabatoge the exchanges by any means possible except formally not paying these subsidies - but by making them month to month you get the same net effect but deniably, so the media won't quite pick up on what is happening in the same way they would if the CSRs were actually canceled
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evilweasel posted:its not like they're plants, they're just broken people who only care about themselves
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Mechafunkzilla posted:A Bernie-style social democrat can do very well but an actual socialist with a platform of dismantling capitalism will get loving destroyed in any large-scale race in this country. bernie's referred to as socialist and i don't bother making the distinction cause it hasn't made him unpopular, and i would like that an actual socialist would be able to run someday
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Condiv posted:i do believe one would win, yes
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