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Condiv posted:i do believe one would win, yes Let's be honest here, the Democrats are going to roll out the rotting corpse of someone safe and Trump will get 4 more years
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Kilroy posted:Your opposition to Nazis starts and ends with saying "I think Nazis are bad". Maybe you view antifa as a necessary evil, at best, but beyond that any proposal to help neutralize the Nazi threat but which also threatens capitalism or might improve the circumstances of groups which are currently productive recruiting grounds for Nazis, you will reject out of hand on the grounds that it is impractical or immoral, respectively. You may hate Nazis and fascism but you are dead weight at best in the fight against them. I'd do the drive thru joke but this is more like a person talking into a mailbox. Get some medication, Kilroy
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Shitshow posted:Has this been posted yet? Because it is so sweet. also I can't help it but "If anyone knows what else we're supposed to do, please tell me! Because I would be grateful!" ".... STOP BEING NAZIS"
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Forgall posted:So you do think that in actual honest dem primary a socialist is going to win? I think if we had one who actually laid out a base for him or herself ahead of time, they probably would. Bernie's single biggest problem is that prior to primary, he hadn't done nearly enough to raise his national profile. He should have been going around the country and visiting people doing speeches and rallies for several years to build up momentum, rather than try to do it all at once during the primary. He spent a lot of his career isolating himself to retain his purity, rather than, you know politicking. Which in one aspect helped him appeal to part of the base, but it also left him largely as a unknown before the campaign. He seems to have learned that lesson, and has been doing the kind of tours and talks he should have been doing in 2013 to get ready for his run. I don't know if he will run again in 2020, but anyone who is outside of the mainstream needs to do more heavy lifting earlier than other candidates.
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Forgall posted:I was asking bird cooch. oh sorry have a keith tweet https://twitter.com/keithellison/status/897578956991467520
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Azhais posted:Let's be honest here, the Democrats are going to roll out the rotting corpse of someone safe and Trump will get 4 more years  it's twenty loving seventeen
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Aug 16, 2017 20:39
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Do you think it is possible in the next election for president that republicans push for a new candidate?
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SocketWrench posted:I'm sorry, what jobs are being lost again by making goods available to a wider group of buyers? Donald J. Trump is here tell us all about taxes and how people avoid them when he won't release his own returns.
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Do you think it is possible in the next election for president that republicans push for a new candidate? Trump will say some bs about how he accomplished more in 4 years than Obama did in 8 and peace out.
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The Glumslinger posted:I think if we had one who actually laid out a base for him or herself ahead of time, they probably would. Bernie's single biggest problem is that prior to primary, he hadn't done nearly enough to raise his national profile. He should have been going around the country and visiting people doing speeches and rallies for several years to build up momentum, rather than try to do it all at once during the primary. He spent a lot of his career isolating himself to retain his purity, rather than, you know politicking. Which in one aspect helped him appeal to part of the base, but it also left him largely as a unknown before the campaign. bernie's pre-primary strategy becomes a lot more explicable when you realize he didn't actually expect to be a serious candidate, and the very act of running was to try to raise his national profile and that of his ideas
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Do you think it is possible in the next election for president that republicans push for a new candidate? I would be super shocked if Kasich doesn't make a huge push to try to primary Trump
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Mechafunkzilla posted:A Bernie-style social democrat can do very well but an actual socialist with a platform of dismantling capitalism will get loving destroyed in any large-scale race in this country. That's probably true, but I don't think the latter option is really on the table right now anyway. Better to attract voters to socialism with policy prescriptions that a lot of folks really like. coyo7e posted:The inside of Jeff Sessions's mind must be one continuous Chick Tract. I like to imagine it's a continuous loop of "Song of the South."
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Harrow posted:Well, I hope that happens. It helps, somewhat, that whoever we run in 2020 will (hopefully) only have a year or so of dedicated muckraking against them as opposed to HRC's decade+. The right has been obsessed with Clinton since the 90's and it really showed in the ingrained attitudes of otherwise politically ambivalent people who voted for the first time ever because they "really couldn't stand that woman". It doesn't make sense, and it wasn't right, but it was what it was and Clinton put herself out there anyway. I think a Warren or a Duckworth would be able to skirt right under the radar, especially the latter.
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theflyingorc posted:Get some medication, Kilroy
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ellison should run for pres in 2020. he's the best
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Data Graham posted:"If anyone knows what else we're supposed to do, please tell me! Because I would be grateful!" kill you're parents
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Do you think it is possible in the next election for president that republicans push for a new candidate? Yes, I actually think this is the most likely scenario. Several high profile Republicans have made it clear they're going to run in the primaries. The Glumslinger posted:I think if we had one who actually laid out a base for him or herself ahead of time, they probably would. Bernie's single biggest problem is that prior to primary, he hadn't done nearly enough to raise his national profile. He should have been going around the country and visiting people doing speeches and rallies for several years to build up momentum, rather than try to do it all at once during the primary. He spent a lot of his career isolating himself to retain his purity, rather than, you know politicking. Which in one aspect helped him appeal to part of the base, but it also left him largely as a unknown before the campaign. Bernie's popularity was a surprise to everyone including himself. He ran against Hillary because he wanted to push the campaign to the Left and force Hillary to come out for progressive policies. He didn't really start seriously running until it started looking like he could pull off a longshot win.
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Forgall posted:I was asking bird cooch. Oh me? No. I don't. Cause I can do things like math and I have a memory longer than a goldfish.
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Aug 16, 2017 20:43
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Condiv posted:ellison should run for pres in 2020. he's the best Oh my God, the debates would quickly devolve into Trump just shouting the n-word over and over again.
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Aug 16, 2017 20:43
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Majorian posted:kill you're parents ....Eat the Rich? ...right?
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Deified Data posted:It helps, somewhat, that whoever we run in 2020 will (hopefully) only have a year or so of dedicated muckraking against them as opposed to HRC's decade+. The right has been obsessed with Clinton since the 90's and it really showed in the ingrained attitudes of otherwise politically ambivalent people who voted for the first time ever because they "really couldn't stand that woman". It doesn't make sense, and it wasn't right, but it was what it was and Clinton put herself out there anyway. At this extremely, almost nonsensically early date, I think Duckworth's my favored hopeful, but honestly there are very few of the vaguely plausible names I think would both A) be awful ideas and B) stand any meaningful chance.
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CommieGIR posted:....Eat the Rich? That is always an acceptable answer imo.
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Majorian posted:Oh my God, the debates would quickly devolve into Trump just shouting the n-word over and over again. eh, i don't want keith to have to deal with that bullshit, but he's still the best and i very much hope he runs for pres. keith ellison/nina turner 2020
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Giggy posted:Yes, I actually think this is the most likely scenario. Several high profile Republicans have made it clear they're going to run in the primaries. Who besides Kasich? Lots of Republicans are positioning themselves in case Trump can't/won't run again or is a dead man walking by 2020, but none besides Kasich I've seen who have indicated a willingness to challenge Trump no matter what.
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bird cooch posted:Oh me? No. I don't. Cause I can do things like math and I have a memory longer than a goldfish. "Oh, you wanted me to listen to your ideas, too? Sorry buddy I know about this little thing called 'math' perhaps you've heard of it?  Now watch this drive."
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evilweasel posted:Who besides Kasich? Lots of Republicans are positioning themselves in case Trump can't/won't run again or is a dead man walking by 2020, but none besides Kasich I've seen who have indicated a willingness to challenge Trump no matter what. Pence has been angling for it pretty blatantly as well.
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Condiv posted:eh, i don't want keith to have to deal with that bullshit, but he's still the best and i very much hope he runs for pres. He's a black Muslim in America; I'm sure he's well-practiced in responding to racism from obese, coke-addled, syphilitic, geriatric white men.
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evilweasel posted:Who besides Kasich? Lots of Republicans are positioning themselves in case Trump can't/won't run again or is a dead man walking by 2020, but none besides Kasich I've seen who have indicated a willingness to challenge Trump no matter what. Maybe I overexaggerated. There was the news 5 Trump years ago that speculated the Pence was beginning a shadow campaign.
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Xae posted:Pence has been angling for it pretty blatantly as well. Pence has been setting himself up if Trump doesn't run but I can't see him challenging Trump. His entire political personality right now is doglike obedience to Trump. How does he play that into challenging Trump?
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https://twitter.com/johnnydollar01/status/897853710302425088 lol the racist is crying that people realize she's racist
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The Republicans are lying to save face, what Trump is doing exactly what they want. Same for the CEOs. They actually don't care , but this is just bringing a lot of unwanted intention and they'd rather be at their usual business of making money the old fashioned way. So they won't challenge him. If anything Trump quits, or a few challengers are thrown up to say they tried. Much like how McCain is used to be the maverick despite never doing anything unique.
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Xae posted:Pence has been angling for it pretty blatantly as well. I enjoyed the Pence machine's response to his plot being discovered. : Mike Pence is gearing up a massive campaign, but it's for his reelection as Vice President, not to take the top spot / not in expectation that Donald will quit like the big baby he is. Anything else would be ludicrous.
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evilweasel posted:https://twitter.com/johnnydollar01/status/897853710302425088
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theflyingorc posted:Get some medication, Kilroy Solid advice.
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evilweasel posted:Pence has been setting himself up if Trump doesn't run but I can't see him challenging Trump. His entire political personality right now is doglike obedience to Trump. How does he play that into challenging Trump? Peace couldn't win a primary against Trump in a billion zillion year.
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GreyjoyBastard posted:At this extremely, almost nonsensically early date, I think Duckworth's my favored hopeful, but honestly there are very few of the vaguely plausible names I think would both A) be awful ideas and B) stand any meaningful chance. Yeah I honestly don't think anyone on my favored list atm have the remotest chance of actually stepping forward. Maybe this will change but I have no reason to be optimistic yet. The GOP self-destructing is nice but someone has to have the balls/ovaries to take advantage of that or we're almost certainly gonna end up with Corey Booker or worse (and we could do so much worse).
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Ahahaha, gently caress Trump: https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/897870648575496194
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Deified Data posted:Yeah I honestly don't think anyone on my favored list atm have the remotest chance of actually stepping forward. Maybe this will change but I have no reason to be optimistic yet. The GOP self-destructing is nice but someone has to have the balls/ovaries to take advantage of that or we're almost certainly gonna end up with Corey Booker or worse (and we could do so much worse). they're all running everyone on your list, they're running it's easier to name democratic politicians who you have heard of that are not running than are running the only three I can tell you are not running are schumer, pelosi, and obama
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evilweasel posted:https://twitter.com/johnnydollar01/status/897853710302425088 lmao, "yes we can!"
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