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There exists no fighting game where players don't poo poo on the netcode, there's bad and less bad. Just don't buy the ultimate edition, they wouldn't have made the 6 dlc characters at all if the dlc didn't exist.
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fadam posted:There are lots of fighting games with good netcode and the feature complete version of the game is literally $119.99 CAD on the Playstation store. yeah but thats like, $5 in real money
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Aug 16, 2017 16:16
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Fellblade posted:There exists no fighting game where players don't poo poo on the netcode, there's bad and less bad. People seem happy with the netcode in MK XL, Injustice 2, and KI. I played a buttload of Injustice 2 when it came out and I had very few matches that felt bad. And I don't entirely understand your second point.
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Aug 16, 2017 16:21
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fadam posted:Would you guys be more interested in this game if it had a F2P model? Considering I've been saying since the drat thing was announced that all of their decisions would be justified if it was a F2P mobile release and the only reason it's what it is is everything needs to be eSports these days, I'd absolutely give it a shot if it was F2P. I can't speak as to how long I'd play for, but I'd give it a go as opposed to not giving a poo poo about the game in it's current form.
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Aug 16, 2017 16:58
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sorry yall but if you have any criticism of the game you are just another entitled fgc member feeling like their time is worth enough to bother with being discerning. lol as if
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Aug 16, 2017 17:16
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Eh, the base game is gonna be "feature complete", DLC characters aren't really features. I mean, you can poo poo on Capcom for announcing 6 characters before even releasing the game while having a pretty limited roster, but DLC is DLC, even if it's aggressive and probably already being worked on DLC.
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Aug 16, 2017 17:25
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Dias posted:Eh, the base game is gonna be "feature complete", DLC characters aren't really features. I mean, you can poo poo on Capcom for announcing 6 characters before even releasing the game while having a pretty limited roster, but DLC is DLC, even if it's aggressive and probably already being worked on DLC. Yes there are all manner of terrible justifications you can make for being scalped willingly, good point
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Aug 16, 2017 17:26
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dangerdoom volvo posted:Yes there are all manner of terrible justifications you can make for being scalped willingly, good point I mean, I'm just sayin' you're saying something wrong when there's plenty of legit poo poo moves in MVCI. You can be wrong if you want and really, no one would notice a difference, but there are no features missing unless you buy the $40 season pass. Maybe there are some functions missing, but as far as I can remember they ain't selling this game without story mode unless you pay for it.
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Aug 16, 2017 17:32
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Dias posted:Eh, the base game is gonna be "feature complete", DLC characters aren't really features. I mean, you can poo poo on Capcom for announcing 6 characters before even releasing the game while having a pretty limited roster, but DLC is DLC, even if it's aggressive and probably already being worked on DLC. they copy and pasted almost the entire roster and are offering copy and pasted characters as dlc, even with that, there are less characters than the game before it. the game is not feature complete.
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Aug 16, 2017 17:33
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Dias posted:I mean, I'm just sayin' you're saying something wrong when there's plenty of legit poo poo moves in MVCI. You can be wrong if you want and really, no one would notice a difference, but there are no features missing unless you buy the $40 season pass. Maybe there are some functions missing, but as far as I can remember they ain't selling this game without story mode unless you pay for it. Actually my friend I think you'll find that you are the one who is wrong.
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Aug 16, 2017 17:33
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anime was right posted:they copy and pasted almost the entire roster and are offering copy and pasted characters as dlc, even with that, there are less characters than the game before it. That means the game is bad, maybe that the game has less features than its predecessor, but "feature complete" implies you need to buy a season pass to get, I'unno, the story mode they promised for the base game. It's just a weird thing when people add DLC characters for any game, really, as "YOU MUST BUY THIS" in the year of our Lord Keits 2017. You wouldn't get it for free in the "good ol' days", you'd just have to buy the revision/expansion pack anyway. Capcom is still garbage, don't worry, I'm not disagreeing.
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Aug 16, 2017 17:39
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personally, and maybe its just me, but I feel like the roster is a pretty big "feature" in a fighting game
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Aug 16, 2017 17:41
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fadam posted:personally, and maybe its just me, but I feel like the roster is a pretty big "feature" in a fighting game This would be a legitimate point if the roster didn't exist unless you bought each character individually. e; I have absolutely no doubt this was suggested during design meetings for MVCI. Fellblade fucked around with this message at 17:47 on Aug 16, 2017 |
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Aug 16, 2017 17:44
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Fellblade posted:This would be a legitimate point if the roster didn't exist unless you bought each character individually. No, actually this doesn't make any sense. To be clear, I have no problem buying the season pass or whatever for a game if the game is good. I spent the same amount on Injustice 2 that they're charging for the "full" version of MvCI. I care less about the fact that they're charging so much, and more about the fact that they're charging so much for something that looks cheaply made and is probably bad.
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Aug 16, 2017 17:47
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they're functions not features, guys. try to keep it straight.
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dlc characters are fine with me but make them be able to be selected in training mode. They won't cuz I can't train against any of the dlc fighters in sfv. mcvi will do the same thing.
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Aug 16, 2017 17:49
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fadam posted:People seem happy with the netcode in MK XL, Injustice 2, and KI. I played a buttload of Injustice 2 when it came out and I had very few matches that felt bad. So the second point, the DLC characters would not exist if they weren't DLC. The game would have 6 less characters, in fact the game might not have even been made at all without the potential to generate the extra revenue from DLC. fadam posted:No, actually this doesn't make any sense. The discussion was about the game being feature complete, you implied that it wasn't feature complete because of 'the roster'. I am saying that nobody can reasonably say it's feature incomplete due to 'the roster' as it has a base roster of 30+ unique characters.
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Aug 16, 2017 17:59
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fadam posted:No, actually this doesn't make any sense. I mean, that's a completely legitimate reason to talk poo poo about a season pass. I still think equating DLC characters with base features echoes some dumb DLC complaints to the tune of "it's developers withhelding stuff to make more money" when usually that poo poo wouldn't exist or continued support wouldn't exist without those DLC plans, and if we're gonna give Capcom poo poo I'd rather focus on how BAD their DLC plans are. I hate how aggressive it is, Injustice 2 and MKX at least gave us sturdy rosters and waited more than no time at all to announce their DLC plans and pricing. MVCI just feels like Capcom wants to cash in with the least effort possible, it borders on mobage BS mentality-wise. Kobold Sex Tape posted:they're functions not features, guys. try to keep it straight. I was gonna make that joke and deleted it.
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Aug 16, 2017 18:00
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Fellblade posted:I am saying that nobody can reasonably say it's feature incomplete due to 'the roster' as it has a base roster of 30+ unique characters. Sure, but that roster isn't complete unless you buy the season pass. Again, my problem isn't that the season pass exists or that the game is unplayable without it, my point is that only very good games can get away with doing stuff like this. $100+ bucks for the complete version of a game that looks like it could have been a F2P mobile game is nuts. fadam fucked around with this message at 18:05 on Aug 16, 2017 |
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Aug 16, 2017 18:02
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heres my point: marvel vs capcom infinite bad
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Aug 16, 2017 18:09
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zooted heh posted:They won't cuz I can't train against any of the dlc fighters in sfv. mcvi will do the same thing. this is seriously loco
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Aug 16, 2017 18:34
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the MvCI Evo 2018 Finals will have literally hundreds of thousands of stream views see you there! :-)
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it blows my mind that this game is releasing with like 4 new characters on the base roster and still has the outdated Spencer. MVC3 had 20 brand new on the base roster plus around 10 other new ones for UMVC3 expansion. Even Tekken 7 has more new base characters, and also sold more in 2 months than SFV did in an entire year so lol at MVCI's chances of matching that
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Aug 16, 2017 18:54
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Race Realists posted:the MvCI Evo 2018 Finals will have literally hundreds of thousands of stream views On what basis do you believe that the game is going to be so wildly successful? Why do you feel so strongly about this game doing well and pulling huge numbers, in light of the fact that Capcom has bungled every major FG release in this decade so far?
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Race Realists posted:the MvCI Evo 2018 Finals will have literally hundreds of thousands of stream views KOF XIV (Friday) – 32,760 Guilty Gear Xrd REV2 (Saturday) – 38,518 Injustice 2 (Saturday) – 45,557 Super Smash Bros. Melee (Saturday) – 128,121 Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3 (Sunday) – 84,952 BlazBlue: Central Fiction (Sunday) – 97,605 Tekken 7 (Sunday) – 145,657 Super Smash Bros. for Wii U (Sunday) – 143,008 Street Fighter V (Sunday) 179,072 i really doubt itll do much more than umvc3 like im not even saying this game will be some massive failure just when even the most popular game at last year's evo didnt get to 200k its weird to think that mvci will
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pissdude posted:On what basis do you believe that the game is going to be so wildly successful? Why do you feel so strongly about this game doing well and pulling huge numbers, in light of the fact that Capcom has bungled every major FG release in this decade so far? Oh i know the game is gonna bomb sales wise. Doesn't mean its Scene cant be followed on streams though
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Endorph posted:KOF XIV (Friday) – 32,760 nice fake stats to bolster your argument. what kind of nerd wastes time typing all that out
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Endorph posted:KOF XIV (Friday) – 32,760 I agree with the general point (that MVCI probably won't get to 200k viewers) but it's a bit unfair to compare these numbers when the games might be in different time slots. Look at the numbers from 2016 where Marvel does much better: Tekken 7: Fated Retribution (Saturday) - 35,498 viewers Smash Bros. Wii U (Saturday) - 71,141 viewers Pokken Tournament (Saturday) - 23,980 viewers Killer Instinct (Saturday) - 25,596 viewers Mortal Kombat XL (Sunday) - 104,586 viewers Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3 (Sunday) - 121,878 viewers Guilty Gear Xrd Revelator (Sunday) - 136,914 main channel Super Smash Bros. Melee (Sunday) - 219,125 main channel Street Fighter V (Sunday) - 182,716 main channel Marvel had a much better viewership when it wasn't the first morning slot. And you should see that the games that had Saturday Slots all did much better on Sunday Slots, cause it shows how much viewership changes based on slots. If you put MVCI at a better position it'd probably have as much numbers as UMVC3 had in 2015 (which was the peak afaik, at ~165k) unless the game ends up worse than SF5.
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Race Realists posted:Oh i know the game is gonna bomb sales wise. Really? Because you seemed to think it was going to have a big player base earlier.
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Aug 16, 2017 19:58
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I always like the idea that when the entire SA FGC shits on something it's because of groupthink nonsense reasons or just a love of shitposting or anything other than it being bad, mostly because it implies that goons don't argue over everything and it's quite nice in that sort of naive way
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brian posted:I always like the idea that when the entire SA FGC shits on something it's because of groupthink nonsense reasons or just a love of shitposting or anything other than it being bad, mostly because it implies that goons don't argue over everything and it's quite nice in that sort of naive way We are simultaneously a hivemind and also a group of contrarians that love making GBS threads on each others' opinions
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Both sides are equally bad
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Aug 16, 2017 20:39
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fadam posted:Really? Because you seemed to think it was going to have a big player base earlier. there is not nearly enough  in your post.the people who do the most amount of bitching about will either A. Bum their friends for a free copy while still bitching endlessly about the game on SRK. B. Pirate the game while still bitching endlessly about it on SRK C. Wait till the "complete" version comes out half price while bitching endlessly about the game on SRK. or more realistically D. Follow the Scene almost religiously on tourny Streams, make a bunch of toxic poo poo posts "HURR DURR $hills CapCucks  " on the stream chat
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i dont think ive seen more than five pro sfv matches so iunno why this game would be any different
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Aug 16, 2017 21:21
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Race Realists posted:there is not nearly enough lol why do people always say this poo poo about bad games
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Ill pick up a copy down the road if monster Hunter is fun to play
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Race Realists posted:there is not nearly enough This sounds like damage control. You seem to want to defend the game without actually having to commit to anything so you do this weird two-step where you talk about how the game is going to fail and sell like poo poo but also have "hundreds of thousands" of stream views or whatever because the FGC is just filled with crybabies who want to talk poo poo about everything.
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Aug 16, 2017 21:33
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Watch Monster Hunter just be a re-skinned Soki from tatsunoko 'Function'.
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Race Realists posted:there is not nearly enough wait, people talk about games on srk?
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It is still very funny to me that a bunch of people (myself included) figured they weren't going to include the X-Men, but instead replace them with all the characters they've been pushing recently like the Inhumans and Squirrel Girl and Gwenpool etc. but they didn't even have the money to do that. At least Black Panther and Thanos are cool. Gamora lol
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