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1500quidporsche posted:The MGU-H is literally the coolest part of these engines and the most interesting technological development in engines in the past 30 years, better get rid of them. Unironically agreed.
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1500quidporsche posted:The MGU-H is literally the coolest part of these engines and the most interesting technological development in engines in the past 30 years, better get rid of them. I agree that they're technologically interesting, but I'd rather see more than 20 cars on the grid and if cheaper engines and better media money distribution makes that happen then so be it. Edit: Alternatively go nuts and demand hydrogen powered rotaries with electric hybrid on top. 
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Aug 17, 2017 01:09
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Isn't the real expense/difficulty in these engines due to the crazy injection systems? Why doesn't the FIA mandate much simpler combustion engines and allow the teams to go nuts on the hybrid/electric portion, i.e. the part that's actually relevant to the future?
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Aug 17, 2017 01:17
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Create a system where the lowest finishing constructor can buy the winning constructor's car for $1 drive train and all. The lowest finishing driver is seat-swapped with the winning champion.
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Aug 17, 2017 01:19
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Carth Dookie posted:I agree that they're technologically interesting, but I'd rather see more than 20 cars on the grid and if cheaper engines and better media money distribution makes that happen then so be it. I remember reading somewhere a couple years ago that one in three aerodynamics specialists work in F1, I don't think the engines are the limiting factor to growing the grid.
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Also this is me lol'ing at the idea that were going to get more noise from a twin turbo versus the current engines: "lol"
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1500quidporsche posted:The MGU-H is literally the coolest part of these engines and the most interesting technological development in engines in the past 30 years, better get rid of them. This. It also adds a gently caress ton of strategy the idiot commentators should be talking about
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Aug 17, 2017 01:57
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wicka posted:Isn't the real expense/difficulty in these engines due to the crazy injection systems? Why doesn't the FIA mandate much simpler combustion engines and allow the teams to go nuts on the hybrid/electric portion, i.e. the part that's actually relevant to the future? While I agree that the ignition/injection systems are probably a big contributor, I also think its the actual challenge the ICE is going to face over the next twenty years. I think the things that really need to change are the restrictions on design and the draconian reliability requirements, the fact that everyone has to go the TJI route instead of trying HCCI or something else because the rules specify that engines must have an ignition spark is insane.
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Aug 17, 2017 02:38
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The size of the grid has more or less remained static since Simtek kicked the bucket. It's been 20-24 cars since mid-1996.
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Aug 17, 2017 04:02
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This engine Formula is fine for me.
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Aug 17, 2017 04:06
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The engines are fine, it's the aero that sucks. I'd like to see less/fixed aero, but the the cars go slower ("boo f1 should be the cutting edge") so you need bigger engines to compensate
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Aug 17, 2017 07:01
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NtotheTC posted:The engines are fine, it's the aero that sucks. I'd like to see less/fixed aero, but the the cars go slower ("boo f1 should be the cutting edge") so you need bigger engines to compensate Yeah lets go back to V8s at the very least please. Aero is one of the most distinguishing things between the cars right now, but yeah if you limited that a bit you could push the engines up.
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Aug 17, 2017 07:09
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Feels Villeneuve posted:South American touring car racing is the best, especially how every crash is about five times more serious than it should be because of the magic of South America. I'm the driver at 1:30
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Aug 17, 2017 07:57
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It's like they built those cars out of cardboard.
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Aug 17, 2017 14:23
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Toro-Rosso and Honda deal collapsed, so sayeth the headline of Motorsport dot com. https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/toro-rosso-honda-engine-talks-breakdown-942096/
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Wirth1000 posted:Toro-Rosso and Honda deal collapsed, so sayeth the headline of Motorsport dot com. All but confirms McLaren are staying with Honda if true.
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Aug 17, 2017 17:07
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To be fair if Honda tried to talk me into buying their engines I'd collapse too. In a fit of laughter.
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Aug 17, 2017 17:07
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gret posted:It's like they built those cars out of cardboard. Reminder of that time Honda entered a car made out of magnesium at at the 1968 French Grand Prix, which promptly burst into a huge fireball on lap two, murdering it's driver Jo Schlesser.
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Wirth1000 posted:That's his 15 year old son next to him and he was crying cause he was full of pride that his kid was able to really drive that stock car they were in really well. Thanks for the better translation. I figured that was it, but the hilariously out of context subs were too good to ignore.
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Aug 17, 2017 18:54
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Zaphod42 posted:Yeah lets go back to V8s at the very least please. V8 twin-turbos making like 1000 hp
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Aug 17, 2017 19:16
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Astoundingly Ugly Baby posted:V8 twin-turbos making like 1000 hp While we're at it, can we drop the downforce by like... Half?
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Astoundingly Ugly Baby posted:V8 twin-turbos making like 1000 hp These engines make over 1000 hp lmbo
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Aug 17, 2017 19:32
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Im rentin a g*d damned rotax tomorrow all day.
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Aug 17, 2017 19:40
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OhsH posted:Im rentin a g*d damned rotax tomorrow all day. Buy mine so I can make the switch to shifter.
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Aug 17, 2017 19:41
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OhsH posted:Im rentin a g*d damned rotax tomorrow all day. How many tires are you getting from the bin?
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Aug 17, 2017 19:41
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learnincurve posted:Reminder of that time Honda entered a car made out of magnesium at at the 1968 French Grand Prix, which promptly burst into a huge fireball on lap two, murdering it's driver Jo Schlesser. Holy poo poo, really? I guess they only tested it in a lab. gently caress, shouldn't have looked that up on youtube. They try to pull him out... and fail. And the water on a magnesium fire makes it worse. mrfart fucked around with this message at 19:47 on Aug 17, 2017 |
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Aug 17, 2017 19:42
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mrfart posted:Holy poo poo, really? No, they knew it was going to be a massive fireball if it crashed. Surtees refused to drive it.
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Aug 17, 2017 19:43
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1500quidporsche posted:These engines make over 1000 hp lmbo Most of the current engines are more like 750+ hp. Mercedes is closing in on 1000 but not quite there on the current car AFAIK.
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Aug 17, 2017 19:43
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Zaphod42 posted:Most of the current engines are more like 750+ hp. Mercedes is closing in on 1000 but not quite there on the current car AFAIK. My friend both Mercedes and Ferrari put out over 1000hp on qualifying and there is not a 250hp deficit amongst the field.
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iospace posted:How many tires are you getting from the bin? im gonna kill a fresh set 1500quidporsche posted:Buy mine so I can make the switch to shifter. trade you my 206 for it, get me a different chassis than your hacked together pre 1999 relic tho edit: wait no apparantly you can't run my 206 engine because it doesnt have ~*~ CaNaDiAn PrInTs~*~ on the engine.
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Aug 17, 2017 20:07
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Ya the Canada stamp thing is dumb as gently caress and makes me lol.
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1500quidporsche posted:Ya the Canada stamp thing is dumb as gently caress and makes me lol. Briggs kinda makes weird rear end decisions
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1500quidporsche posted:My friend both Mercedes and Ferrari put out over 1000hp on qualifying and there is not a 250hp deficit amongst the field. Maybe he means the V6 combustion engine alone? I thought I read somewhere that without the electric part it's around 800 or so?
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That's a weird way to do it.
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OhsH posted:Briggs kinda makes weird rear end decisions The Briggs dream is dead anyways. We're going full shifter as soon as I figure out a way to roll up to the airport and ask for five gallons of AvGas without being laughed at.
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If Honda can't find a sucker to buy their engines, they should enter as a constructor. How hard could it be, just start with single wheel prototypes and then just bolt 4 of those together.
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1500quidporsche posted:The Briggs dream is dead anyways. We're going full shifter as soon as I figure out a way to roll up to the airport and ask for five gallons of AvGas without being laughed at. do it wallet open
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OhsH posted:do it wallet open I'm not sure driving into the runway of a major metropolitan airport in a sketchy 1980s van for some fuel is the best approach in this crazy post 9/11 world.
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1500quidporsche posted:I'm not sure driving into the runway of a major metropolitan airport in a sketchy 1980s van for some fuel is the best approach in this crazy post 9/11 world. Are you white?
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1500quidporsche posted:I'm not sure driving into the runway of a major metropolitan airport in a sketchy 1980s van for some fuel is the best approach in this crazy post 9/11 world. Just paint a tail number on it, get a radio, and learn the pilot lingo. you should be able to get in and out before they realize you're not a plane.
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