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Waze it trash for me. Directions are non sensical and estimated times are off by as much as 15 minutes sometimes. Google Maps is miles ahead for actual navigation. Waze for everyday commute, google maps for new places.
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Does Waze have lane direction yet?
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Aug 17, 2017 18:07
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For us non-driving scum, Google Maps has transit info for my country whereas Apple Maps doesn't, so there's only one app choice for me!
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Aug 17, 2017 18:13
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How much longer will the "Highway Patrol" feature be available on Waze? If that goes there is no reason to use it anymore.
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Aug 17, 2017 18:13
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Another one for Waze. Wish they had lane guidance though. Also Android Auto now supports it - doubt Apple will follow suit for CarPlay
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Aug 17, 2017 18:22
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Question Mark Mound posted:For us non-driving scum, Google Maps has transit info for my country whereas Apple Maps doesn't, so there's only one app choice for me! Did you try iOS 11 yet? I haven't used Apple Maps in ages, but I loaded it up last night and it has a really fantastic transit overlay here in Toronto. Maybe not very useful for a local (I know where they're going and where they are, I need to know about precise timing and exceptions/detours), but certainly as a visitor. They are rolling out support for more and more countries, I think Netherlands is one I heard about, but if you look at the level of detail on the map, it's pretty darn good, it's not as simple as importing a database. Google Maps is still better, but it sure has improved a lot, considering Apple Maps didn't support transit at all for a while.
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Aug 17, 2017 18:27
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The actual real killer for Waze is no CarPlay compatibility. Other than that it's pretty cool.
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Aug 17, 2017 18:42
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xzzy posted:The actual real killer for Waze is no CarPlay compatibility. Yeah this. I always used Waze but my new car has CarPlay so it's apple maps for me. I might try testing with Waze providing verbal cop alerts while Apple navigates though. That's very important. 
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Aug 17, 2017 19:27
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Can anyone explain the logic behind Siri being unable to turn off HomeKit scenes? It is a baffling design choice.xzzy posted:The actual real killer for Waze is no CarPlay compatibility. This hurts CarPlay far more than it hurts Waze. Apple Maps is still unusably bad, at least for turn-by-turn navigation.
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Aug 17, 2017 19:37
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Apple maps in Ireland still doesn't have transit in 2017, despite apple using the country as a tax haven. Rubbish. It's google maps for me until then. Apple maps working on the lock screen is insanely good though.
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Aug 17, 2017 19:52
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I still don't know why they even bothered to make their own map program
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Aug 17, 2017 19:58
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FCKGW posted:I still don't know why they even bothered to make their own map program It's really good now y'all, moreso in iOS 11.
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Aug 17, 2017 20:03
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hey it's me I've used apple maps since it's first came out 🤷🏽♀️
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Aug 17, 2017 20:05
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wicka posted:This hurts CarPlay far more than it hurts Waze. Apple Maps is still unusably bad, at least for turn-by-turn navigation. Oh well. Sliding my black leather-clad iPhone into a ProClip mount still feels pretty baller.
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Aug 17, 2017 20:09
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Henrik Zetterberg posted:It's really good now y'all, moreso in iOS 11. Its a lot better than it used to be, but it is still not good, and it is just a sad pit of despair compared to Google Maps or Waze. It’s literally dangerous to use for navigation.
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Aug 17, 2017 20:23
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wicka posted:Its a lot better than it used to be, but it is still not good, and it is just a sad pit of despair compared to Google Maps or Waze. It’s literally dangerous to use for navigation. I opened Apple Maps while driving the other day and my car fishtailed and rolled over. Literally dangerous!
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Aug 17, 2017 20:30
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bobfather posted:I opened Apple Maps while driving the other day and my car fishtailed and rolled over. Literally dangerous! It’s directed me down random gravel roads, detours that don’t make sense, right into closed interstates, past my exit only to tell me to make an illegal u-turn and double back, etc. It’s understandable that Apple doesn’t want to be beholden to Google for what is now basic mobile functionality, but maybe get out of alpha before you start forcing it on people.
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Aug 17, 2017 20:51
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Works great for me!
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Aug 17, 2017 20:55
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Bit of an unusual request w/r/t podcast apps. My dad has an iPad but a Samsung phone. Is there any good apps for podcasts that work on both and have cloud syncing ?
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Aug 17, 2017 20:55
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Regardless, I’m more here to ask why Siri can’t shut off HomeKit scenes when she can turn them on, and I can turn them back off with a single button. No one seems to be question this intentional refusal to perform utterly basic functionality.
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Aug 17, 2017 20:58
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Quantum of Phallus posted:Bit of an unusual request w/r/t podcast apps. Pocket Casts
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Aug 17, 2017 21:05
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Endless Mike posted:Pocket Casts Excellent, thanks.
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Aug 17, 2017 21:10
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Endless Mike posted:Works great for me! It’s almost like it’s location dependent or something. Google maps works perfectly where I am, Apple maps is literally worse than the built in system in my car (and we all know how good those are)
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Aug 17, 2017 21:11
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I've done road trips before where I use google maps on one phone and apple on the other. They both have their failings and you really need to pay attention to road signs and not blindly follow the navigation app.
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Aug 17, 2017 21:21
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wicka posted:Regardless, I’m more here to ask why Siri can’t shut off HomeKit scenes when she can turn them on, and I can turn them back off with a single button. No one seems to be question this intentional refusal to perform utterly basic functionality. File a bug. None of us can fix that for you.
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Aug 17, 2017 21:21
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I think I started using Apple Maps in iOS 7 and it's always worked fine for me. I've only used it in Oklahoma, Kansas, Missouri and Arkansas though. My one complaint is that I wish it would give me the verbal direction to turn or take an exit a few seconds earlier than it does.
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Aug 17, 2017 21:23
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Henrik Zetterberg posted:File a bug. None of us can fix that for you. Take it easy, slugger, I’m not asking you to. It’s clearly by design - she says “I can’t turn off a scene” - so I’m just curious if anyone knows the reasoning behind that decision.
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Aug 17, 2017 21:32
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FCKGW posted:I still don't know why they even bothered to make their own map program Turn-by-turn directions either wasn't going to be allowed or be prohibitively expensive to license is the reasoning most of the media outlets friendly to them gave, at least. wicka posted:Regardless, I’m more here to ask why Siri can’t shut off HomeKit scenes when she can turn them on, and I can turn them back off with a single button. No one seems to be question this intentional refusal to perform utterly basic functionality. I think you're looking at scenes differently than they are designed. Devices are turned off or turned on, devices are then set TO scenes. So you can ask siri to turn lights off or on, or set a scene to "bedtime sexytime" or whatever (you can say "turn Scene X on" and Siri complies, but what's really happening is that siri is applying scenes to your lights). But you can only replace a scene with another scene. So the workaround to this is "bedtime sexy darkness" or something, which is a scene that has the lights in your bedroom set to off, and whatever lights you want on anywhere else left alone. It's easier for me to just say "hey siri, turn the bedroom light off" (or alternatively "hey siri, turn off the lights" if I just want all the lights off) but if you have a lot of devices I see how this can be annoying.
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Aug 17, 2017 22:44
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Rick posted:I think you're looking at scenes differently than they are designed. Devices are turned off or turned on, devices are then set TO scenes. So you can ask siri to turn lights off or on, or set a scene to "bedtime sexytime" or whatever (you can say "turn Scene X on" and Siri complies, but what's really happening is that siri is applying scenes to your lights). But you can only replace a scene with another scene. So the workaround to this is "bedtime sexy darkness" or something, which is a scene that has the lights in your bedroom set to off, and whatever lights you want on anywhere else left alone. I would accept this explanation IF it wasn't incredibly straightforward to, as the user, toggle scenes on and off. I tap the button for a scene, it turns on; I tap it again, it turns off, and yet Siri can't do that latter action.
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Aug 17, 2017 22:53
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wicka posted:Can anyone explain the logic behind Siri being unable to turn off HomeKit scenes? It is a baffling design choice. What does "turn off HomeKit scenes" mean? "Turn off the lights?" Just tell her to turn off the lights. "Go to a different scene?" Just tell her what scene to go to. "Change a single aspect of the scene" Just tell her what aspect to change. The intent is to set up scenes for whatever your different ambiance needs are, it's possible you just need to create another scene that is the intended behavior for 'turn off this scene.' The reason siri cannot do this is because your request is too ambiguous to have any real meaning.
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Aug 17, 2017 23:03
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Grassy Knowles posted:What does "turn off HomeKit scenes" mean? "Turn off the lights?" Just tell her to turn off the lights. "Go to a different scene?" Just tell her what scene to go to. "Change a single aspect of the scene" Just tell her what aspect to change. But it's not ambiguous. I can press a button to do exactly what I'm asking. E: I guess I can describe my use case in more detail. I replaced my bedroom lights with Hue bulbs. I would like to be able to do two things: have a button on my phone to toggle the bedroom lights on and off, and to be able to tell Siri, "turn the bedroom lights on/off." To do the former, as far as I know, I have to create a scene that includes all my bedroom lights and add it as a favorite scene. For the latter, I can simply create a room called "Bedroom" and associate my lights with it. However, if the scene is also called "Bedroom Lights," it will conflict with the functionality of the "Bedroom" room. In order to have both, I'd have to name them something different, which is just stupid. Also, regardless of these explanations about what scenes are intended for, the fact remains that the control center Home buttons are fully capable of turning scenes both on AND off. If there's something I'm missing here, great, I would love to be the moron who missed the easy way to do this. But it sounds like this is actually how it's supposed to work, in which case it's a piece of software that fundamentally misunderstands how people live in reality. wicka fucked around with this message at 23:27 on Aug 17, 2017 |
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Aug 17, 2017 23:06
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Pivo posted:Did you try iOS 11 yet? I haven't used Apple Maps in ages, but I loaded it up last night and it has a really fantastic transit overlay here in Toronto. Maybe not very useful for a local (I know where they're going and where they are, I need to know about precise timing and exceptions/detours), but certainly as a visitor. Quantum of Phallus posted:Apple maps working on the lock screen is insanely good though.
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Aug 17, 2017 23:42
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Khablam posted:Honestly just try it. This is overcast? That sounds bad rear end. I am always 20 behind. Will it make playlists and auto delete when done?
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Aug 18, 2017 00:20
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All this "smart home" stuff kind of sounds like it sucks
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Aug 18, 2017 00:22
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Snowmankilla posted:This is overcast? That sounds bad rear end. I am always 20 behind. Will it make playlists and auto delete when done? It's really great, Overcast is easily the best podcast app I've tried. It does do playlists, but I never use them, so I'm not sure if they auto delete. My only qualm is that the default font is garbage, and you can only change it to the regular system font by turning on dark mode. It's nice that he at least gives us that, and premium subscribers can also change the icon to match dark mode, but it'd be better if we could just toggle the font itself. Weedle posted:All this "smart home" stuff kind of sounds like it sucks It's actually fantastic, and I can do poo poo like set my lights to automatically turn on at sunset, but only if I'm at home, which makes me feel like it's the future (and that's just the Hue bulbs, there's a lot more stuff out there). The problem I have is just that the Home app sucks, and since I pay a premium to have a house full of Apple products that work seamlessly together, it's annoying to have to resort to other services in order replicate basic light switch functionality. wicka fucked around with this message at 01:27 on Aug 18, 2017 |
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Aug 18, 2017 01:25
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Snowmankilla posted:This is overcast? That sounds bad rear end. I am always 20 behind. Will it make playlists and auto delete when done? Yes, and yes. Smart playlists is its own thing (rarely use them, but they're good for a lot of really short episode shows) and 'delete after playing' is a setting that applies globally.
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Aug 18, 2017 01:38
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All map apps suck because now they're comically verbose. "In a quarter mile use the left two lanes to turn onto route 26/35 Butthead road headed north towards fuckoffville."
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Aug 18, 2017 02:21
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xzzy posted:All map apps suck because now they're comically verbose. Considering people are idiots and turn their brains off when following GPS instructions, I'm sure it helps.
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Aug 18, 2017 02:29
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xzzy posted:All map apps suck because now they're comically verbose. Another point for waze (google also does this): you can set it so it only tells you about hazards or reroutes.
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Yeah it's kinda sad how waze is basically the perfect app and google is all "nah we gonna ignore you and mine the database to populate our traffic information."
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