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ikanreed posted:Israel is lovely, but they don't really have death-to-arab groups who get state sanction. Except the settlers?
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ikanreed posted:I don't often say this, but gently caress you Latuff. Israel is lovely, but they don't really have death-to-arab groups who get state sanction.
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Xander77 posted:Not a Latuff fan (to say the least) but in this case the analogy is fairly exact. It's pretty pointless Rall-style whataboutism though.
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Xander77 posted:Not a Latuff fan (to say the least) but in this case the analogy is fairly exact. Comparing Israel to Nazi Germany is a great way to get your message ignored. Sam Kriss having a broken clock moment posted:At no point in a conversation about Israel or anti-Semitism is it a good idea to start talking about interesting facts about the Holocaust that not many people know. This isn't just a matter of looking bad in front of the cameras: the Holocaust was a monstrous, shattering cataclysm, a memory that's still incredibly painful for millions of people, an evil far, far greater than anything Israel has done since, and it should not be instrumentalised to score an argumentative point. Yes, there are supporters of Israeli policy who like to sift through the cemeteries in the hope of silencing any opposition. Be better than them. Don't talk about Hitler. Don't talk about the Holocaust.
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But it's comparing them with American alt-right groups, not with Nazi Germany. There are differences. Like, the country is not the same.
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Xander77 posted:Thanks for letting us know? It's a thing. They're weird, strange folk.
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Selachian posted:
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Xander77 posted:Not a Latuff fan (to say the least) but in this case the analogy is fairly exact. One of the major differences is that while Bibi is (at the very least) vaguely competent enough to quickly and decisively condemn "racism" whenever the question is posed while (obviously) implementing incredibly racist policy, he would never condemn any of the actual groups by name, no matter how pressured he was.
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Ragnar34 posted:There's got to be a closet furry goon around here who knows more than they're telling re: Garrison's furry alter-ego. To that goon I want to say you can snitch on Garrison without hesitation here. It's been established that juggalos are cool if they're making GBS threads on neo-nazis, so I don't see why furries can't get in on that. You have no clue how wide the furry market is, do you? This is roughly equivalent to "Oh, you're from Ireland? Did you know my grandma?"
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I'm honestly confused by all the "both sides" comics. Even if you want to have the delusion that the antifa/BLM are violent/as violent as Nazis, they're not really making convincing arguments of how violent anti-fascists are worse or no better then violent fascists. Would these people have been condemning the Allies for their violence in WWII?
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Holy poo poo a good Gosse. Although, come to think of it, it's usually hard to divine his opinion through the thick layers of labels. But I have a distinct impression of him being a shitheel.
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King Possum III posted:I suggest one small change; Honestly was expecting to see Pence underneath that horse.
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Interesting, something to think about. Removed the linked video anyway.
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Ah yes, the GOP, always in staunch opposition to white supremacists and neo-nazis.
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Naturally, some dolt already publicly said "George Washington statues should come down too!", so the right has their "See! The left want to remove history!" line already laid out. Had a former coworker trot it out on Facebook yesterday. Doesn't matter it was one guy, that's enough to show "how lefties really work".
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Ularg posted:Wow he took that Trump talking point and ran with it. Racism...bad? Sounds like another loony leftie! 
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MrUnderbridge posted:Naturally, some dolt already publicly said "George Washington statues should come down too!", so the right has their "See! The left want to remove history!" line already laid out. Had a former coworker trot it out on Facebook yesterday.
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MrUnderbridge posted:Naturally, some dolt already publicly said "George Washington statues should come down too!", so the right has their "See! The left want to remove history!" line already laid out. Had a former coworker trot it out on Facebook yesterday. The world is incapable of seeing shades of grey.
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It's not like evidence matters at all. Some dweeb on twitter got "official antifa" as his account and tweeted a couple of EVIL STRAWMAN LEFTY stuff and the screenshots are still being passed around as Solid Evidence of Antifa being a terror organization even though the tweets had 2 likes and the account had no followers. When BLM was just starting, one of those ISIS recruit bots that just posts propaganda on any trending hashtag posted something followed by #BlackLivesMatter and that was also used as Definitive Evidence that BLM and ISIS are allies.
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And also, statues isn't how we record or teach history.Lurdiak posted:It's not like evidence matters at all. Some dweeb on twitter got "official antifa" as his account and tweeted a couple of EVIL STRAWMAN LEFTY stuff and the screenshots are still being passed around as Solid Evidence of Antifa being a terror organization even though the tweets had 2 likes and the account had no followers. Or the time the daily mail ran a photo of someone taking a poo poo on a police car and said it happened at OWS. duz fucked around with this message at 00:07 on Aug 18, 2017 |
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Lurdiak posted:It's not like evidence matters at all. Some dweeb on twitter got "official antifa" as his account and tweeted a couple of EVIL STRAWMAN LEFTY stuff and the screenshots are still being passed around as Solid Evidence of Antifa being a terror organization even though the tweets had 2 likes and the account had no followers. ahh yes, the official antifa twitter, as doubtless assigned by the Official Central Office Of Any Sort Of Not Liking Fascists, not sure where exactly that's based these days
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duz posted:Or the time the daily mail ran a photo of someone taking a poo poo on a police car and said it happened at OWS. Let's not even get started on the daily mail.
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Oxyclean posted:I'm honestly confused by all the "both sides" comics. Even if you want to have the delusion that the antifa/BLM are violent/as violent as Nazis, they're not really making convincing arguments of how violent anti-fascists are worse or no better then violent fascists. They have no consistent values or principles, Trump said march so they started goose stepping.
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ikanreed posted:I don't often say this, but gently caress you Latuff. Israel is lovely, but they don't really have death-to-arab groups who get state sanction. Actually it's Israel's military that's the death to arab group with state sanction
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It's a dickless nazi crying his loving eyes out not the empire strikes back, lmao, the hero is at his low point!! what a loving joke, whoever wrote that is a dumbshit
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Liu posted:It's a dickless nazi crying his loving eyes out not the empire strikes back, lmao, the hero is at his low point!! He saw how the wind was blowing and did a "help we, law abiders, are being oppressed by the illegal left"
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i take issue with joe schmuckatelli from twitter dot com trying to claim any authority on the matter sobbing his eyes out doesn't make him look good from a pr or a legal perspective and i'm not going to uncritically follow some random text i see on social media
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I agree. Speaking of structures of USA's racist past, I wonder if eventually they're going to rename things named after Confederacy as well. I don't see street names being changed, but maybe some important buildings?
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D.N. Nation posted:do these people not know what the FA in antifa stands for
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MrUnderbridge posted:Naturally, some dolt already publicly said "George Washington statues should come down too!", so the right has their "See! The left want to remove history!" line already laid out. Had a former coworker trot it out on Facebook yesterday. Someone defaced a Christopher Columbus statue in Boston yesterday, as a very direct way of saying "hey everybody I think this statue should come down as well" and on the one hand it's like, he wasn't a Confederate, and on the other hand it's like, yes it should come down anyway though
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Liu posted:It's a dickless nazi crying his loving eyes out not the empire strikes back, lmao, the hero is at his low point!! Seriously. That dipshit wasn't thinking of anything like that when he made that video.
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