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Tim Whatley posted:FWIW I have a lot more faith in the Boston rally because it sounds like our cops aren't taking any poo poo at all. Obviously it's on the news a lot here. Every single person to enter the park is getting checked for weapons and there's a huge barricade between the assholes in the center, then a ring of cops, then counter protestors. But lots of folks are understandably still on edge. I am glad to hear they're taking a lot of effort to keep things safe. I do worry a little bit though. Even if you take away that weapons, they killed that woman with a car. What's stopping them from doing so? They can still very easily do that. And that's the real Danger. Arrgytehpirate posted:Almost like it's a I don't get it. Your definitely referencing something, but what?
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Bondii posted:I do a lot of lurking in this thread and easily the best part is every time Covok tries to do something positive (his version of positive), fucks it up, and gets yelled at. I hope he is never Bannoned-- err-- banned. The guy seems to mean no harm but I'm fastly understanding why he has such an unpopular reputation here between the defeatism style of posting and ill advised decisions like embedding 200 random twitter posts all at the same time so it hangs people's browsers.  There's far far worse posters out there on the internet though and I'd take a Covok over generic blithering meme spewing shitposter #57,568. The latter wouldn't last long on SA forums anyway though I imagine.
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CommieGIR posted:"Are we the baddies?" We have skulls on our hats. quote:I don't get it. Your definitely referencing something, but what? Ladder theory maybe?
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Ice Phisherman posted:We have skulls on our hats. Game of Thrones.
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Covok posted:In all seriousness, are the accelerationist right? I mean, we went full crazy and now all the statues are being taken down, a lot of the defense of the Confederacy is being shut down, there is tons of pushback from the business world, techworld, in general population against the right, and ObamaCare is more popular than it's ever been with many demanding Universal Health Care. I could go on, but it sounds like going full crazy helped a lot. It's not accellerationism can't work, it's that it involves a lot of suffering of vulnerable people, and the people who advocate for it are usually not the ones doing that suffering.
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Jaxyon posted:It's not accellerationism can't work, it's that it involves a lot of suffering of vulnerable people, and the people who advocate for it are usually not the ones doing that suffering. Yeah, you won't find many African American accelerationists for example. Tons of college aged white people though.
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Jaxyon posted:It's not accellerationism can't work, it's that it involves a lot of suffering of vulnerable people, and the people who advocate for it are usually not the ones doing that suffering. That does make sense. Thinking back on it, I do believe that was my earlier stance. It's just so weird. Trump taking power was terrible and what's happened is awful, but it's actually broken the stagnation. I can't help but feel if we got Kasich or Cruz then nothing would have changed and we be even worse off. Covok fucked around with this message at 01:09 on Aug 19, 2017 |
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Party Plane Jones posted:Nazis have a list of all the stuff they've been kicked off/banned from/or account closed so far (spoiler its a LEFTIST CONSPIRACY :tinfoil) Weren't some of those shut down by the people themselves? (like in Chris Cantwell's case, shutting down his FB page) Regardless, seeing this list, my penis can only get so erect.
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I'm trying to process the fact that the GOP seems to have less control of the narrative because they're in power. Not to say that they're not doing heinous poo poo in the background but Trump really does seem to be ruining their control of the narrative at all, which to PJs credit seems like a fine way to gently caress up some Narrativists
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Bogatyr posted:Chode that attended a hate rally, complains about "the composition of our country" is surprised to get hate right back at him... Those rude "people" in class told me I was an rear end in a top hat! ME! I am their better and they didn't even give ME the sex I SHOULD GET IN COLLEGE. MY FATHER GOT ME IN HERE and they treat ME like THIS!
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Jaxyon posted:It's not accellerationism can't work, it's that it involves a lot of suffering of vulnerable people, and the people who advocate for it are usually not the ones doing that suffering. Wait until Trump is completely gone before we do the analysis. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nlOIsHUCu0 It does seem like people are at least starting to consider Obama's commentary during one of the last speeches he gave an one that really stuck with me as I was watching it and has made me consider a lot of the past year especially. All he really did was posit the question of where all this divise rhetoric and vitriol gets us, but he did it in that uniquely Obama way that cuts right to the heart of the matter. Guy often had a point and was great at keeping it concise. Kale fucked around with this message at 01:02 on Aug 19, 2017 |
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RuanGacho posted:I'm trying to process the fact that the GOP seems to have less control of the narrative because they're in power. Not to say that they're not doing heinous poo poo in the background but Trump really does seem to be ruining their control of the narrative at all, which to PJs credit seems like a fine way to gently caress up some Narrativists I mean you can't exactly control the narrative when the guy in charge randomly goes against your spin and does the worst possible answer in the universe. I mean, he literally just had to condemn White supremacists. And he was able to do it for one day. But his first attempt was terrible and blamed both sides. And his second attempt was ruined by him walking it all back and taking a poo poo on stage while giving the moralauthority to Nazis. Like, that loving ruins any attempt to spin this poo poo. If Trump was as competent as Bill Clinton, when Healthcare failed he would say they were just going to keep working on it. Then let it quietly die and let people forget about it. Instead, he starts shiting on the guy in charge and keeps bringing it up even though the guy in charge wants to move on quietly. And then we'll likely bring it up again even after the window for reconciliation is passed.
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Mr Interweb posted:CNN having a lot of fun today: Discount Dracula posted:https://mobile.twitter.com/SteveKopack/status/898664090410913792 Serfer posted:This week has been so bad for Trump I almost expect the piss tape to go into wide release this evening. 
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Kale posted:Wait until Trump is completely gone before we do the analysis. I mean what if Accelerationism means "gently caress YOU WORLD, NUKES"? Pretty much everyone loses then.
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Ice Phisherman posted:We have skulls on our hats. - We get our money through 'Hatreon'. - Have you been reading leftie forums? Of course they're gonna say we're the bad guys - But they didn't get to name our crowdfunding platform, Hans
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Crabtree posted:Those rude "people" in class told me I was an rear end in a top hat! ME! I am their better and they didn't even give ME the sex I SHOULD GET IN COLLEGE. MY FATHER GOT ME IN HERE and they treat ME like THIS! This is that guy from the anecdote. His name ought to be Chad.
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RuanGacho posted:I'm trying to process the fact that the GOP seems to have less control of the narrative because they're in power. Not to say that they're not doing heinous poo poo in the background but Trump really does seem to be ruining their control of the narrative at all, which to PJs credit seems like a fine way to gently caress up some Narrativists It's easy to shout and scream NO NO NO IT'S THE BLACK DUDE'S FAULT for years. It's harder when there's no black guy left to blame.
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Re: accelerationism, It's worth emphasizing how very bad and dangerous the institutional loss of competence in our executive agencies is/will be. Particularly given that, in terms of institutional memory, the Bush years and their screwups aren't that far in the past. There may be a backlash, but it's not going to leave us better off than we were.
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eviltastic posted:Re: accelerationism, It's worth emphasizing how very bad and dangerous the institutional loss of competence in our executive agencies is/will be. Particularly given that, in terms of institutional memory, the Bush years and their screwups aren't that far in the past. There may be a backlash, but it's not going to leave us better off than we were. "But everything is so bad we have to tear it down and rebuild! It will be better in the long run!" - Middle class white guy.
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Bogatyr posted:Chode that attended a hate rally, complains about "the composition of our country" is surprised to get hate right back at him... This dude's like Ben Shapiro duplicate that mutated slightly during the cloning process.
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Mr Interweb posted:This dude's like Ben Shapiro duplicate that mutated slightly during the cloning process. This dude is *nineteen*. He definitely touched an orb.
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So did they give that shitfuck that killed that woman with a car actual murder or did he get some weak manslaughter instead of terrorism because he's a white chud?
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Mr Interweb posted:CNN having a lot of fun today: THAT ALL HAPPENED IN 4 loving WEEKS?!?!?!?!?!
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:It's easy to shout and scream NO NO NO IT'S THE BLACK DUDE'S FAULT for years. It's harder when there's no black guy left to blame. The entire Republican establishment was all ready and excited for 4 years of NO NO NO ITS THAT CROOKED BITCHES FAULT and still haven't adjusted.
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eviltastic posted:Re: accelerationism, It's worth emphasizing how very bad and dangerous the institutional loss of competence in our executive agencies is/will be. Particularly given that, in terms of institutional memory, the Bush years and their screwups aren't that far in the past. There may be a backlash, but it's not going to leave us better off than we were. The states can sort of pick up the slack a little but but kind of do rely on the executive to make certain kinds of payments and settle certain accounts. It's on a global scale and deciding international policy that America runs into the biggest trouble and while Trump couldn't give less of a poo poo about any of that sort of stuff much like he seems largely indifferent to governing and being in touch with Americans you can bet many Americans do and don't want to see America get effortlessly leap frogged in influencing international policy by Germany, China, Russia etc. Personally I'd have no problem with Germany taking the reigns at all though.
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Crabtree posted:So did they give that shitfuck that killed that woman with a car actual murder or did he get some weak manslaughter instead of terrorism because he's a white chud? How about looking it up instead of coming in here all excited to get outraged?
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Covok posted:That don't make sense. Thinking back on it, I do believe that was my earlier stance. It's just so weird. Trump taking power was terrible and what's happened is awful, but it's actually broken the stagnation. I can't help but feel if we got Kasich or Cruz then nothing would have changed and we be even worse off. What doesn't make sense? Your assumption, as an accellerationist, is that the suffering that happens much more quickly and harshly, will be less than getting there over a longer time. Which is a huge gamble, and also very often is people gambling with the suffering of other people.
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Jaxyon posted:What doesn't make sense? "Actually you see it's good the nazis killed that lady because it's not a lady I know"
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coyo7e posted:You know all of those college professors who have anecdotes about how they teach a class on history or sociology etc, and once every few semesters they get a student who walks out of class (or who at the end of the semester comes up and says, "well I know it's all bullshit anyway")? I prefer calling that guy Jimmy because that's name of the dude who did that in my class. He took an economic course that ended up explaining that most right-wing policies don't work like lowering taxes and stuff. Last day of class, he made a big scene about how the professor was wrong and an idiot and a liberal and oppressing him when it was the last class before the final and the professor was just taken questions in the last 5 minutes to help us out. I didn't hear that he passed. Apparently, you got a lot of questions wrong. And not even opinion-based ones that could be blamed on different beliefs, basic ones. He's apparently was an idiot who was on academic probation and got kicked out of that school. eviltastic posted:Re: accelerationism, It's worth emphasizing how very bad and dangerous the institutional loss of competence in our executive agencies is/will be. Particularly given that, in terms of institutional memory, the Bush years and their screwups aren't that far in the past. There may be a backlash, but it's not going to leave us better off than we were. That's a scary thought. I forgot how much this is probably screwing over any future president who tries actually do good because there is no faith in that seat anymore.  I love that we're hearing more and more that the Nazis at that rally are getting hosed even the ones who weren't videotape there.I had found a tweet earlier that said that everyone who was in the vice video had been arrested. So, if anyone didn't like those guys when they were calling the death of Jews, they're all in jail now.
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