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The Little Kielbasa posted:Dean decides it's OK to fire Nazis, for the worst possible reason. https://twitter.com/GovHowardDean/status/898922311444832259. mookie did nothing wrong
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Holy gently caress Bill Maher please kill yourself!
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Been reading Christopher Hayes's "Twilight of the Elites", released 2012, and a bunch of passages are sticking out to mequote:A natural consequence of the proliferation of news sources is a more balkanized political landscape. CBS’s Walter Cronkite would speak to nearly 20 million people every night during his heyday, an audience larger than all three network evening newscasts combined in 2010. As the audience has dispersed, distrust in the media has skyrocketed. In 1979, newspapers were one of the most trusted institutions in America, with ratings over 50 percent; today they’re one of the least. The same goes for TV news. quote:But after surveying the wreckage of the fail decade, it takes some willful delusion to blame the media or an ungrateful public for our predicament. We do not trust our institutions because they have shown themselves to be untrustworthy. The drumbeat of institutional failure echoes among the populace as skepticism. And given both the scope and the depth of this distrust, it’s clear that we’re in the midst of something far grander and more perilous than just a crisis of government or a crisis of capitalism. We are in the midst of a broad and devastating crisis of authority. The Obama years were a vicious failure of America, eight years of kicking the can repeatedly down the road and claiming that it meant economic prosperity and a better life for everyone (really just the 1% who stole all of the profits from the bailout and the economic "recovery"). Obama lied repeatedly to us. He ran as a progressive, then immediately turned around and began behaving like every last power-hungry self-centered liberal who view themselves as the natural, entitled heirs, the nobility who are obliged to run the system and reap its rewards. (Also see: Macron.) That at the end of the Obama years we were served up a fundamentally untrustworthy person as our next leader makes it, frankly, completely unsurprising that Trump somehow pulled out a victory. When I read about a clone like Kamala Harris spewing despicable trash in defense of utter self-serving shitheads like Joe Manchin it makes it abundantly clear that the Democrats' leadership needs a complete purging of all the shithead liberals who are hungry for power and circle the wagons to defend their fellow powergrubbers. Have an ironic quote, again from Twilight of the Elites: quote:“Go all the way back to Sumerian civilization,” Bill Clinton instructed a crowd of global jet-setters at the 2011 World Economic Forum in Davos, “and you’ll see that every successful civilization builds institutions that work, that lift people up and reward people for their greatness. Then, if you look at every one of those civilizations, all those institutions that benefited people get long in the tooth. They get creaky. The people ruling them become more interested in holding on to power than the purpose they were designed for. That’s where we are now in the public and private sector.”
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The Little Kielbasa posted:Dean decides it's OK to fire Nazis, for the worst possible reason. https://twitter.com/GovHowardDean/status/898922311444832259. on the other hand, the article he's responding to is literally the worst-written article I've ever seen some lovely local paper pundit somehow convinced himself he was a philosopher-poet, or something Jazerus posted:you have to address different people in different ways. this is obvious i know but part of the bad dems' perception of leftists as purity testers does come from a tendency on the left to simply not understand that the framing of an issue does need to vary somewhat depending on the audience the thing about Dean's argument is that it's dangerously similar to the libertarian argument "we don't need the Civil Rights Act, because the free market would ensure that no business would ever discriminate, because obviously being known as a racist would hurt business" history shows that it's not true, and in fact, for every business firing Nazi workers right now, there's another business somewhere else displaying borderline white supremacist stuff in their front window
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I think the problem was that American progressives got so mad at bush and co that they forgot to really articulate what they wanted besides 'change' which let Obama come in and govern like Ike did instead of delivering real substantive change. Lots of people were probably terrified of the socialist label and were willing to settle for mild keynesianism. But now after the utter failure of the end of history types we can finally come out and say what our ID was saying all along. That things can and should be different.
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SKULL.GIF posted:Been reading Christopher Hayes's "Twilight of the Elites", released 2012, and a bunch of passages are sticking out to me Yeah bad dems like Obama were so out of touch with the pain in the average american and when push came to shove preferred giving trillions of dollars in aid to Wall Street banks rather than helping main street.
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SKULL.GIF posted:He ran as a progressive, then immediately turned around and began behaving like every last power-hungry self-centered liberal who view themselves as the natural, entitled heirs, the nobility who are obliged to run the system and reap its rewards. (Also see: Macron.) To be fair, Macron is doing pretty much what he said he would
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Aug 19, 2017 17:53
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Main Paineframe posted:time to put some suck back in the zone 'Look guys, we hosed up so bad that we're basically a regional party of the Northeast, Chicago, and a few large cities on the west coast; have given the republicans complete control of the legislature, and ran a presidential candidate that was so terrible that the country went with Donald Trump instead. But trust us, we should continue with the way we're running things.
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SKULL.GIF posted:Been reading Christopher Hayes's "Twilight of the Elites", released 2012, and a bunch of passages are sticking out to me Obama and the rest of the democrats watched Occupy and Black Lives Matter protests spring up on their watch and they ignored them at best, and actively attacked those movements at worse. The Obama years were a loving disgrace.
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Main Paineframe posted:time to put some suck back in the zone quote:"I'm wary of pendulum politics," one former senior administration official to Obama said. "We can't whiplash the country." Yes, Trump won because it wasn't whiplash and his administration was a very incremental change from Bush and Obama. A "whiplash" candidate could never win from the left because of reasons that are actually just restating "too far left" in different words.
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Andrast posted:To be fair, Macron is doing pretty much what he said he would Make MILFs great again?
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SKULL.GIF posted:Been reading Christopher Hayes's "Twilight of the Elites", released 2012, and a bunch of passages are sticking out to me Twilight of the Elites is one of the things that make me respect Hayes(I also will never forget when he got in a bunch of trouble for saying "hey maybe everyone who went to Iraq wasn't a hero"). It doesn't offer solutions, if I remember, but it's very diagnostic. He talks about how the idea of meritocracy is a lie that obscures how power asserts itself, which was actually very radical to me back then.
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Lawman 0 posted:I think the problem was that American progressives got so mad at bush and co that they forgot to really articulate what they wanted besides 'change' which let Obama come in and govern like Ike did instead of delivering real substantive change. Lots of people were probably terrified of the socialist label and were willing to settle for mild keynesianism. But now after the utter failure of the end of history types we can finally come out and say what our ID was saying all along. That things can and should be different. ike would have been incredibly better than obama in the same circumstances i think
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Jazerus posted:ike would have been incredibly better than obama in the same circumstances i think Ike built the US highway system and did other things like making big public spending increases for things like research. All the public spending is why the current crop of boomers grew in a period of big economic growth and stability. What did Obama accomplish?
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you can tell how out of touch centrists are when Bill Maher thinks Chelsea Clinton is on the "Far Left" But yes, one side wants children to eat like pigs to spite libs, and the other side wants me to quit being an rear end in a top hat. Same thing, really.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:you can tell how out of touch centrists are when Bill Maher thinks Chelsea Clinton is on the "Far Left" Remember when Maher stated that liberals could lose him because he thinks his taxes are too high?
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Came in expecting keytar bear posts, so far disappointed 
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loquacius posted:Came in expecting keytar bear posts, so far disappointed  was always on nctv riffin away late at night 
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guys the bern is back
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Vox Nihili posted:guys the bern is back dinosaurs are very dangerous in swarms
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you know the both sides thing that centrists do that gets traction with alt-right talking points means you probably hosed up https://twitter.com/PrisonPlanet/status/898975956387418112 they can talk about it sure, just go talk inside a hole away from everyone people think its about freedom of speech its really about freedom of listening dont have the time or the day so oan yer trolley, ye wee radge
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SKULL.GIF posted:why was :bernget: deleted anyway spite
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Vox Nihili posted:guys the bern is back i take it china hasn't discovered the horrific chicken breeds we've developed
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SKULL.GIF posted:why was :bernget: deleted anyway  i don't really understand the process of how emotes are eliminated either tho
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Lastgirl posted:you know the both sides thing that centrists do that gets traction with alt-right talking points means you probably hosed up I'm sick of all the bullshit framing about this being a free speech issue. Only the government is constitutionally compelled to respect anybody's right to a freedom of expression; the rest of us can bash the fash all we like.
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Lawman 0 posted:I think the problem was that American progressives got so mad at bush and co that they forgot to really articulate what they wanted besides 'change' which let Obama come in and govern like Ike did instead of delivering real substantive change. Lots of people were probably terrified of the socialist label and were willing to settle for mild keynesianism. But now after the utter failure of the end of history types we can finally come out and say what our ID was saying all along. That things can and should be different. My man Robert Costa and a bunch of twitter people did a panel on this just yesterday : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Hrxx99GdXU&t=810s
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Hodgepodge posted:satan is in the suck zone, i repeat, satan is in the suck zone wuh oh here comes my sig ----------------
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Weeping Wound posted:wuh oh here comes my sig you missed the unholy convergence by two pages and instead summoned... *rolls 2d20* newt gingrich
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loquacius posted:Came in expecting keytar bear posts, so far disappointed https://twitter.com/OddBostonEvents/status/898961589658939394
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Vox Nihili posted:guys the bern is back  Kakariko Village HenGetting Extravaganzahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agR5aaQL2PY
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Jazerus posted:dinosaurs are very dangerous in swarms [gets an egg in the face] clever girl
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SKULL.GIF posted:why was :bernget: deleted anyway Because the mods are shills for the bad dem establishment
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Taintrunner posted:hello, newt here Jesuits are prowling about all parts of the United States in every possible disguise, expressly to ascertain the advantageous situations and modes to disseminate Popery. A minister of the Gospel from Ohio has informed us that he discovered one carrying on his devices in his congregation; and he says that the western country swarms with them under the name of puppet show men, dancing masters, music teachers, peddlers of images and ornaments, barrel organ players, and similar practitioners.
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