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Do you want meat, chicken, or fish? e: Nooo, snipe Actually, I have content: both me and my mom this morning figured out that "roosters" are called that because they roost. (Even though hens are really the ones who roost!) It was a  moment for both of us - Mom especially, since she's a birdwatcher.
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It still baffles me that some people consider fish meat a separate thing from other kinds of animal meat.
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Aug 20, 2017 00:25
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Olive Garden tonight! posted:It still baffles me that some people consider fish meat a separate thing from other kinds of animal meat. I think most of them rationalise it as "fish can't feel pain" but it's actually a really complex issue that has no conclusive answer.
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Aug 20, 2017 00:34
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Olive Garden tonight! posted:It still baffles me that some people consider fish meat a separate thing from other kinds of animal meat. it's ok to eat fish 'cause they don't have any feeeeeeeelings
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Aug 20, 2017 00:35
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Most fish meat is just so different from chicken and beef, even more than the difference between those two. Tuna tho...
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Aug 20, 2017 00:41
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Olive Garden tonight! posted:It still baffles me that some people consider fish meat a separate thing from other kinds of animal meat. Didn't that have a religious starting point? Like, the original suggestion of "give up meat for Lent, but keep eating fish" thing start when someone the Pope was related to had a fishing business?
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Aug 20, 2017 00:59
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Memento posted:it's ok to eat fish That's why I only eat emotionally detached cows.
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Aug 20, 2017 01:00
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Solice Kirsk posted:That's why I only eat emotionally detached cows. cownnui adds so much flavor, good choice.
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Aug 20, 2017 01:33
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Powaqoatse posted:It kindof is the same, but no worries. You're cool now that you realize that all proper nouns are different in all languages Check this dude that thinks latin is the same as english Also Toscana is a lot more like Tuscany than it is Etruria Edgar Allen Ho has a new favorite as of 02:57 on Aug 20, 2017 |
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Aug 20, 2017 02:52
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Olive Garden tonight! posted:It still baffles me that some people consider fish meat a separate thing from other kinds of animal meat. It boggles my mind when people consider them different, and are "vegetarian but I eat fish." Commercial fishing ravages species way more than commodity beef or chicken production. Of course, beef and chicken have their own down sides, I consider commodity chicken and the conditions in which they live to be one of, if not the, most evil things in food service. But nothing in food service contributes to the decline and possibly eventual extinction of species quite like fishing. It's the same with chicken-chicken and fish, in my experience, are the two meats that people who lean towards vegetarianism will eat. Fish is absurd for the above reasons, and chicken on a commercial farm are jam packed into tiny cages and stacked, barely enough room to move and making GBS threads all over each other. Even "cage-free" commercial chicken are jam-packed into a warehouse with a concrete floor, sure there aren't any cages, but they can barely move and will never see the sun. "Vegetarian-fed' chicken are sickly and weak, because chicken are omnivores. Beef, on the other hand, tends to have lots of space, sustainability on a cow/calf ranch (as in having a ranch that will stand the test of time, something that even a rancher with zero concern for the environment cares a whole lot about) requires a massive amount of land for a relatively small amount of cattle. They need to rotate through pastures so that grass has the opportunity to grow enough to feed the herd. There are certainty some feed lots that pack the cows in tight, and there are environmental implications with the massive amount of waste that cows produce (this is, again, at the feed lot. At a cow/calf ranch, there is enough space that they don't need to worry about waste removal, the cows just poop wherever and it fertilizes the grass), but of all commodity meats, beef cattle probably has the best quality of life. So overall why those two meats are the ones that people will eat when they only eat a little/some meat (or say "I'm a vegetarian but I eat...") makes absolutely zero sense to me.
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Aug 20, 2017 03:19
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Being an environmental vegetarian is dumb and general. Either go vegan or don't bother.
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Aug 20, 2017 04:20
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Aren't tuna and salmon farm raised
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Aug 20, 2017 06:35
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FAT32 SHAMER posted:Aren't tuna and salmon farm raised Salmon, yes. Tuna, no. Tuna is WAY too big to farm economically.
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Aug 20, 2017 07:54
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Also, fish farms are spectacularly bad for the environment. It takes more fish used as feed to raise a fish than you get out of it, so you're still depleting stocks. It also introduces all sorts of foreign things into the environment, like antibiotics and pesticides. You can't separate fish farms from the open ocean because you need a way to get rid of the waste from the fish.
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Aug 20, 2017 08:34
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I've had dumb arguments with people over whether monotremes like the platypus are mammals. They get really insistent that they're not. "But they lay eggs!"
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Aug 20, 2017 10:22
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They produce both milk and eggs, which means they can make custard out of their bodily secretions!
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Aug 20, 2017 10:27
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Tasteful Dickpic posted:They produce both milk and eggs, which means they can make custard out of their bodily secretions! This makes me uncomfortable. Some custard rules, please.
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Aug 20, 2017 11:21
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You could also use platypus eggs, milk and venom to make some delicious devilled eggs.
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Aug 20, 2017 11:30
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Tasteful Dickpic posted:They produce both milk and eggs, which means they can make custard out of their bodily secretions! There's an expression in German which is "the egg laying wool-milk sow" which is supposed to be a thing that does everything you could possibly want it to. Platypus is like 90% there already, maybe we should start a breeding program.
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Aug 20, 2017 11:45
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pidan posted:There's an expression in German which is "the egg laying wool-milk sow" which is supposed to be a thing that does everything you could possibly want it to. please tell me how to say this and give me an example of how to use it so I can work it into every future conversation
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Aug 20, 2017 12:22
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ladron posted:please tell me how to say this and give me an example of how to use it so I can work it into every future conversation Eierlegende Wollmilchsau. The Link has an audio clip. Generally you use it to mean that somebody is looking for something that doesn't exist, such as a shoe that is suited for every situation, a worker who can do a variety of different jobs and so on. Occasionally it just means a gizmo with a lot of features. Now go and spread this word across the world
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Aug 20, 2017 13:04
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God I love German.
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Aug 20, 2017 13:31
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Memento posted:Also, fish farms are spectacularly bad for the environment. It takes more fish used as feed to raise a fish than you get out of it, so you're still depleting stocks. It also introduces all sorts of foreign things into the environment, like antibiotics and pesticides. You can't separate fish farms from the open ocean because you need a way to get rid of the waste from the fish. Going to a dam and seeing one of those concrete abominations they use to stock depleted lakes and half the fish have growths of an indeterminate nature on their fishy faces.
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Aug 20, 2017 13:43
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Memento posted:Also, fish farms are spectacularly bad for the environment. It takes more fish used as feed to raise a fish than you get out of it, so you're still depleting stocks. It also introduces all sorts of foreign things into the environment, like antibiotics and pesticides. You can't separate fish farms from the open ocean because you need a way to get rid of the waste from the fish. The CSIRO came up with microbe-based prawn food, but even then they only say it "reduces" the amount of wild fish you need to feed the prawns. And obviously that's only for prawns, not fish.
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Aug 20, 2017 13:45
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:I've had dumb arguments with people over whether monotremes like the platypus are mammals. They get really insistent that they're not. "But they lay eggs!" But being the only mammals that lay eggs is literally the only thing 99% of people know about monotremes. You'd think people would be willing to accept such a universal trivium. It'd be like insisting bats aren't mammals because they can fly.
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Aug 20, 2017 15:13
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rydiafan posted:But being the only mammals that lay eggs is literally the only thing 99% of people know about monotremes. You'd think people would be willing to accept such a universal trivium. It'd be like insisting bats aren't mammals because they can fly. Mammal posted:Glass of milk It's right there
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Aug 20, 2017 15:17
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Olive Garden tonight! posted:It still baffles me that some people consider fish meat a separate thing from other kinds of animal meat. I think people just feel the closer kinship to fellow members of Team Mammal?
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Aug 20, 2017 15:40
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A lot of people use "animal" interchangably with "mammal" so they say things like "birds and animals"
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Aug 20, 2017 16:03
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Kinda like "Catholics and Christians".
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Aug 20, 2017 16:10
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rydiafan posted:Kinda like "Catholics and Christians". https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/thoughtful-animal/once-upon-a-time-the-catholic-church-decided-that-beavers-were-fish/
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Aug 20, 2017 16:36
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syscall girl posted:https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/thoughtful-animal/once-upon-a-time-the-catholic-church-decided-that-beavers-were-fish/ Iguanas and capybaras as well, drat. They love their loopholes in the Catholic church.
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Aug 21, 2017 03:41
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Memento posted:Iguanas and capybaras as well, drat. They love their loopholes in the Catholic church. I knew there were a few more but iguanas? What kind of meat does a priest eat on Fridays? Iguana?
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Aug 21, 2017 03:49
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I deployed to Guantanamo. (Even though they weren't supposed to) people ate iguana. It's like the only protein source.
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Aug 21, 2017 03:50
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Metal Geir Skogul posted:I deployed to Guantanamo. (Even though they weren't supposed to) people ate iguana. That is harsh.
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Aug 21, 2017 04:02
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syscall girl posted:I knew there were a few more but iguanas? If Wall of Voodoo taught me anything via Celtic Frost, they eat barbecued iguana in Mexico.
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Aug 21, 2017 04:03
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syscall girl posted:It's right there TMBG is cool and good.
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Aug 21, 2017 06:00
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:I've driven through 41/50 states, the plains are kinda charming/sleepy/creepy in a nice way. He had to mess with the timing when he got to Kansas because the cornfields are laid out on a 1-mile grid, so he was getting the same photo every mile.
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Aug 21, 2017 06:30
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Bad Angus! Bad!
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syscall girl posted:https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/thoughtful-animal/once-upon-a-time-the-catholic-church-decided-that-beavers-were-fish/ Chametz is leavened grain, not just grain  .
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Aug 21, 2017 12:17
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rydiafan posted:But being the only mammals that lay eggs is literally the only thing 99% of people know about monotremes. You'd think people would be willing to accept such a universal trivium. It'd be like insisting bats aren't mammals because they can fly. Aren't echindas also egg laying mammals?
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Choco1980 posted:Aren't echindas also egg laying mammals? Yes, but rydiafan was saying that monotremes are the only mammals that lay eggs, not just the platypus.
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