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ToxicToast
Dec 7, 2006
Thanks, I'm flattered.

Star posted:

My QM queues have been around 30 seconds to 2 min at most, regardless of role.

Same, some how I now find QM games faster in this than Overwatch.

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avantgardener
Sep 16, 2003

I rarely queue for more than 15 seconds. Playing in Europe, about 1-2 games per day.

E2M2
Mar 2, 2007

Ain't No Thang.
Oh I guess its gonna be Kel'Thuzad

Midnightghoul
Oct 1, 2003

COME ON DON'T BE SCURRED

E2M2 posted:

Oh I guess its gonna be Kel'Thuzad

Yep, each teaser seems to be a Naxx wing. Looks like that list is still exact on order too

bio347
Oct 29, 2012
It'll be good to get actual-KT so that people stop calling Kael that. GET IT RIGHT, PEOPLE.

Single and LOVING IT
Apr 4, 2004
The monkeys are coming. . .

bio347 posted:

It'll be good to get actual-KT so that people stop calling Kael that. GET IT RIGHT, PEOPLE.

Nah it'll be KT and KTZ

Fried Watermelon
Dec 29, 2008


Mr Bones

Mr. Bad Guy
Jun 28, 2006

Mr. Skeltal, surely.

Kith
Sep 17, 2009

You never learn anything
by doing it right.


I got recruited to a Chair League team and for the past couple weeks, I've been playing streamed matches. It's been a really cool and fun experience because I've been participating with an organized group against other organized groups, something that drastically alters the Heroes experience for the better. However, ever since I got recruited and started playing competitively, I haven't cared about playing HOTS unless it was for practice or for a proper match because Hero League isn't coordinated and QM/Unranked are full of smurfs.

I'm starting to think that trying too hard has broken my brain and ruined the hobby for me.

lucifirius
Mar 7, 2016

Power Bottom posted:

I got recruited to a Chair League team and for the past couple weeks, I've been playing streamed matches. It's been a really cool and fun experience because I've been participating with an organized group against other organized groups, something that drastically alters the Heroes experience for the better. However, ever since I got recruited and started playing competitively, I haven't cared about playing HOTS unless it was for practice or for a proper match because Hero League isn't coordinated and QM/Unranked are full of smurfs.

I'm starting to think that trying too hard has broken my brain and ruined the hobby for me.

Play QM/Unranked doing gimmicky builds, or heroes you've never played/don't play that much. Find a way to make it fun!

Beach Bum
Jan 13, 2010
AzmoFunk is never not fun

Edit: That is the best loving typo ever and now I want a new skin

White/Purple jacket, bigass gold medallion and six suede or patent leather shoes make it happen Blizzard

Beach Bum fucked around with this message at 07:23 on Aug 20, 2017

1982 Subaru Brat
Feb 2, 2007

by Athanatos

lucifirius posted:

Play QM/Unranked doing gimmicky builds, or heroes you've never played/don't play that much. Find a way to make it fun!

Seconding this. QM is carefully configured so that you can slampick Nova or Abathur or Q-build Raynor or anything you can think of, without inconveniencing your team. I've been having a lot of fun with right-click Artanis builds in QM lately, for no reason other than I feel like it.

It's not even strictly a non-tryhard thing -- I've found legit builds this way (Q Raynor is emphatically not one of them), and there's certainly such a thing as playing to improve rather than playing to win.

Fuzz
Jun 2, 2003

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Beach Bum posted:

AzmoFunk is never not fun

Edit: That is the best loving typo ever and now I want a new skin

White/Purple jacket, bigass gold medallion and six suede or patent leather shoes make it happen Blizzard

Huge afro and slit shades and he throws disco balls whilst his minions all rollerskate at the enemy in bell bottoms? Sign me up.

Beach Bum
Jan 13, 2010

Fuzz posted:

Huge afro and slit shades and he throws disco balls whilst his minions all rollerskate at the enemy in bell bottoms? Sign me up.

God yes I was just talking to my HotS buddy and the discoball is what I just came up with too.

I'd ask for the Moonwalk as his dance but Michael Jackson's estate would throw a loving fit.

Edit; totally necro'd a post on the blizz forums but I am totally serious with trying to make this a thing. Where else should I boost this? Reddit? (I loving hate Reddit.)

Beach Bum fucked around with this message at 15:32 on Aug 20, 2017

NeurosisHead
Jul 22, 2007

NONONONONONONONONO

Power Bottom posted:

I got recruited to a Chair League team and for the past couple weeks, I've been playing streamed matches. It's been a really cool and fun experience because I've been participating with an organized group against other organized groups, something that drastically alters the Heroes experience for the better. However, ever since I got recruited and started playing competitively, I haven't cared about playing HOTS unless it was for practice or for a proper match because Hero League isn't coordinated and QM/Unranked are full of smurfs.

I'm starting to think that trying too hard has broken my brain and ruined the hobby for me.

No, HOTS just has a player base of morons. Your brain works fine. If you haven't already, start an EU account. Their HL scene is light years better than NA, if you can handle the ping.

Aaod
May 29, 2004
Yeah even when I am around diamond MMR I somehow get people who have absolutely no idea what they are doing such as a Stukov with 10k healing at the end of the match or people who pick awful talents or who die 10 times in 10 minutes. The player base is just really really bad especially in QM.

lucifirius
Mar 7, 2016

1982 Subaru Brat posted:

Seconding this. QM is carefully configured so that you can slampick Nova or Abathur or Q-build Raynor or anything you can think of, without inconveniencing your team. I've been having a lot of fun with right-click Artanis builds in QM lately, for no reason other than I feel like it.

It's not even strictly a non-tryhard thing -- I've found legit builds this way (Q Raynor is emphatically not one of them), and there's certainly such a thing as playing to improve rather than playing to win.

I do colossus smash or twin blades Varian in QM, even on a team without another tank. It's lots of fun, and sometimes I win, sometimes I lose.

Dire Human
Feb 1, 2013

AH-HA! That's right...

Who's laughing now?

Who's laughing now?



lucifirius posted:

I do colossus smash or twin blades Varian in QM, even on a team without another tank. It's lots of fun, and sometimes I win, sometimes I lose.

Varian's Colossus Smash scream is some excellent sound design, it taps into the same brain panic button as Genji's Angry Japanese Yelling in Overwatch

NeurosisHead
Jul 22, 2007

NONONONONONONONONO
Thrall after the re-work that added all of his quest talents doesn't click for me anymore. Anybody have any tips?

HitTheTargets
Mar 3, 2006

I came here to laugh at you.
Now that the Reddit leak seems legit, I decided to check the HotS wiki for hot scoops on the Firebat.

quote:

A The no one ever wanted hero firebat hero has been listed as being under consideration for inclusion in Heroes of the Storm.

Sounds crazy right? But check this reliable source:

quote:

Why blizzard there are better heroes leeroy Jenkins and Hogger better than this idiot

Bogart
Apr 12, 2010

by VideoGames

NeurosisHead posted:

Thrall after the re-work that added all of his quest talents doesn't click for me anymore. Anybody have any tips?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6d5t8hcs5U

e: and he literally posted a video of it in action about thirty seconds ago. The basics are: Chain Lightning quest, get it done quick, Mana Tide for infinite sustain, Ancestral Wrath for a very good Blood for Blood, flex, Frostwolf's Grace for on demand shot-in-the-arm or Spell Shield, Tempest Fury for busting a backline or Alpha Wolf (if AW, then pick the L4 Wolf quest), then Wind Rush. Can let off some simply absurd numbers if you get his combo down.

Get Innocuous!
Dec 6, 2011

come together

NeurosisHead posted:

Thrall after the re-work that added all of his quest talents doesn't click for me anymore. Anybody have any tips?

Always always always 100% of the time take Echo as your level 1 talent and Mana Tide as your level 4. Don't be drawn in by that level 4 Feral Spirit quest because the reward for it (assuming you even get there) is not as good as it sounds, and have fun never being able to use your W for wave clear. Try to focus on getting to 20 stacks of Echo ASAP.

Level 7 talent should be determined based off of how often you are going to be melee attacking heroes compared to harassing with lightning bolt. If you are laning against Murky then yeah by all means take Maelstrom Weapon at level 7, but if they have a ton of poke and are hard to get to then take Ancestral Wrath. Just judge your ability to stay in the middle of a teamfight without dying. If you have to ask just take Ancestral Wrath because it's safer and the damage is respectable and has a surprisingly long range.

Both of his ults are good. Earthquake might not feel as epic as splitting the earth in two with Sundering but it's useful for a lot of things. Every time it pulses it will break stealth plus you get stacks of your passive from it plus it's a 50% slow that happens 3 times in a huge area. The only thing it's lacking in is damage. Take Earthquake if you need a more defensive ult.

Level 13 is most likely Frostwolf's Grace but if you are constantly getting in peoples' faces then you can take Grace of Air. I've only taken Spirit Shield like twice so I can't really speak to its merit. I just really like how Frostwolf's Grace is flexible in however you want to use it.

Level 16 is pretty open but I usually end up taking Tempest's Fury even if I didn't take the level 7 quest. Thrall has a really, really high base attack damage even without the quest so he will always be threatening to anyone in melee range. Whenever I take Thunderstorm it feels clunky since you can't zap the same person twice, and it's surprisingly easy to forget the last person you zapped. I guess if you're super poke-oriented you can take it. Take Alpha Wolf if you really need the root duration for whatever reason.

Always take Wind Rush at 20 and have fun because you are extremely loving powerful now and can destroy their back line at a moment's notice. Lok'tar, for the horde, etc.

Kith
Sep 17, 2009

You never learn anything
by doing it right.


NeurosisHead posted:

Thrall after the re-work that added all of his quest talents doesn't click for me anymore. Anybody have any tips?
He's a good general hard-hitting assassin who can compete with the Butcher if you play well enough. He also has a really neat variant build for anti-tank stuff.

Standard Hurty Hammer Man:
1: Echo of the Elements (aka "the one that gives you reduced mana cost and an extra charge"). The nerf to Frostwolf Resilience's healing output is less keenly felt when you can fart out two Chain Lightnings in a row and the quest itself is not that difficult to farm up. Crash Lightning (aka "the damage one") isn't bad, but it is a huge pain in the rear end to get the "prioritizes heroes" reward unless you're teamfighting constantly.
4: Mana Tide. The cooldown reduction is the important part, and you can possibly get three Windfury activations in a row if you time things right.
7: Maelstrom Weapon. The "increase Thrall's Basic Attack Damage" part of the quest would be enough, but as it turns out Maelstrom Weapon also comes with crazy speed boosts.
10: Take your pick.
13: Grace of Air. More healing means you stay alive more and more cooldown reduction from Mana Tide.
16: Tempest Fury. More Maelstrom stacks and vastly increased mileage from Grace of Air.
20: Wind Rush. Blinks are good. Blinks that give you free activations of Windfury are loving amazing.

Tank Buster:
1: Echo of the Elements. You're gonna need as many Frostwolf Resilience stacks as you can muster.
4: Feral Resilience. The extra Frostwolf Resilience stacks are the big earners here, because of...
7: Ancestral Wrath. 15% of the target's health (which Thrall heals from!) is pretty nasty, and is the core of the Anti-Tank Thrall build. By the time you hit 20, you'll be able to throw this out twice in the span of a single fight.
10: Take your pick. Earthquake is popular because it generates more Frostwolf Resilience stacks.
13: Grace of Air. Ancestral Wrath doesn't work without Frostwolf procs, so you want as many as you can get.
16: Tempest Fury. Synergizes with Grace of Air to get more stacks to get more Wrath.
20: Wind Rush. Blinks are still good, free Windfuries are still good, with this you could feasibly get three activations of Ancestral Wrath out of a single fight.

Dire Human
Feb 1, 2013

AH-HA! That's right...

Who's laughing now?

Who's laughing now?



Someone do that one brain meme where it's like

Small brain: Kel'Thuzad Mage Assassin

Regular brain: Kel'Thuzad Ranged Specialist

Exploding brain: Kel'Thuzad Support

Bogart
Apr 12, 2010

by VideoGames

Dire Human
Feb 1, 2013

AH-HA! That's right...

Who's laughing now?

Who's laughing now?



i didn't say anything about debuffs

bring on the kel'thuzad heals

Bogart
Apr 12, 2010

by VideoGames
then you should've made the loving meme yourself

Diephoon
Aug 24, 2003

LOL

Nap Ghost
if we're requesting dumb art someone please make a comic where two leorics get embarrassed when they accidentally end up holding spooky hands

Shabadu
Jul 18, 2003

rain dance


I really hope Kaelthas gets the Karl nickname he deserves, good ole boy Carl Thass, because my dude Kel'Thuzad gets to be KT

BrianBoitano
Nov 15, 2006

this is fine



Power Bottom posted:

I'm starting to think that trying too hard has broken my brain and ruined the hobby for me.

Team League on Discord! In game, type /join Team League, then also join teamleague and SAGoons. Ask all 3 channels, get 3 or 5 together, and have a jolly competitive but not too srs time. Almost everyone is down for Discord in TL. If they aren't that might be a red flag, so be wary.

EdRush
Dec 13, 2005

by R. Guyovich

Dire Human posted:

Someone do that one brain meme where it's like

Small brain: Kel'Thuzad Mage Assassin

Regular brain: Kel'Thuzad Ranged Specialist

Exploding brain: Kel'Thuzad Support

Dead brain: Lili solo healer
Normal brain: Tyrande solo healer
Exploding brain: ETC solo healer
Galactic brain: Probius solo healer

Sensual Simian
Jun 7, 2004

summer jorts

EdRush posted:

Dead brain: Lili solo healer
Normal brain: Tyrande solo healer
Exploding brain: ETC solo healer
Galactic brain: Murky solo healer

ftfy

Midnightghoul
Oct 1, 2003

COME ON DON'T BE SCURRED
Minions, servants, soldiers of the cold dark, obey the call of pre-nerf Kel'Thuzad

veedubfreak
Apr 2, 2005

by Smythe
Why does no one understand the concept of team fights? I just lost a game because Lunara and Hammer were off doing their own thing the ENTIRE loving GAME. gently caress these stupid people.

Macaluso
Sep 23, 2005

I HATE THAT HEDGEHOG, BROTHER!
So what's the deal is the thing at gamescom right now just the HOTS reveal or what? Because it's all being livestreamed right now and it's apparently a big deal, but the "reveal" ceremony isn't until wednesday?

edit: lmao I think Jaina is getting a dreadlord skin?

Macaluso fucked around with this message at 17:04 on Aug 21, 2017

Abroham Lincoln
Sep 19, 2011

Note to self: This one's the good one



KELTHUZAD BOYZ

Midnightghoul
Oct 1, 2003

COME ON DON'T BE SCURRED
I'm glad that Kel'thuzad is being introduced the way he was always meant to be, with anime

floofyscorp
Feb 12, 2007

Dreadlord Jaina confirmed.

Gustav
Jul 12, 2006

This is all very confusing. Do you mind if I call you Rodriguez?
Great reveal, apparently he's going to be some kind of hero, though I'm not sure they actually confirmed that

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Mierenneuker
Apr 28, 2010


We're all going to experience changes in our life but only the best of us will qualify for front row seats.

GG, Hammer useless

https://twitter.com/BlizzHeroes/status/899663853461557248

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