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The Muppets On PCP
Nov 13, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

Venom Snake posted:

It's pretty unprecedented for an opposition party to be doing this badly when faced with a president this unpopular

the same thing happened to every state party that got wiped out from 2010-2014

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The Ol Spicy Keychain
Jan 17, 2013

I MEPHISTO MY OWN ASSHOLE

Iron Twinkie posted:

https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/899282198456655875

http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/346680-post-election-chaos-leaves-dnc-far-behind-in-fundraising

From the Hill article, it looks like big donors are mad they didn't get the expected ROI from a Hillary Clinton presidency and small dollar donors (read working people) want nothing to do with the DNC. So, to what degree can the DNC operate a deficit? Has a political party gone bankrupt before? Not only are they going into 2018 with no clear message and a shattered and demoralized base but they are dead broke on top of that.

:boobeer:

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool

The Muppets On PCP posted:

the same thing happened to every state party that got wiped out from 2010-2014

elaborate

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool
"Maybe the only thing more depressing to the Democratic base than Trump's actions and inactions on North Korea, Charlottesville and Russia is how few members on both sides — on 'many sides' — have stood up to him.

lol were turbofucked

its not just anit trump

stand for something you dumb fucks!!!

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool
jamal simmons knwos whats up, gj jamal

Rand alPaul
Feb 3, 2010

by Nyc_Tattoo
Democrats would rather have Trump in power than abandon their wealthy donors.

The Muppets On PCP
Nov 13, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

people stopped donating

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool

The Muppets On PCP posted:

people stopped donating

no, which state parties...

Probably Magic
Oct 9, 2012

Looking cute, feeling cute.

Lastgirl posted:

but she stumped for Bernie...:confused:

She told them to gently caress off and "get over it" at the convention though to vote for Hillary. Nazis, though....

Venom Snake
Feb 19, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo

he's probably referring to the fact that dem state parties got trashed but despite the GOP being widely despised in even some red states the dems can't really regain ground

Venom Snake
Feb 19, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo

Rand alPaul posted:

Democrats would rather have Trump in power than abandon their wealthy donors.

I mean it looks like their donors have abandoned them regardless :v:

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



Venom Snake posted:

he's probably referring to the fact that dem state parties got trashed but despite the GOP being widely despised in even some red states the dems can't really regain ground

just you wait, 2018 comes and the dems will cleverly triangulate to the right to get moderate republicans and play up how bad trump is to get the base out and wham! democrats win twenty more states

Iron Twinkie
Apr 20, 2001

BOOP

gradenko_2000 posted:

This is only tangentially related, but I heard that the French Socialist party had to sell off their headquarters from a lack of funding.

*Violent J discovers a ringing phone behind a case of Faygo at the newly acquired Juggalo Headquarters*

Yo, new party who dis?

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool

Iron Twinkie posted:

*Violent J discovers a ringing phone behind a case of Faygo at the newly acquired Juggalo Headquarters*

Yo, new party who dis?

antifa juggalo socialist fur party

Grondoth
Feb 18, 2011

Venom Snake posted:

I mean it looks like their donors have abandoned them regardless :v:

they always do

THEY ALWAYS DID

ScrubLeague
Feb 11, 2007

Nap Ghost

Lessail posted:

the party's dyin' cloud

not my problem...

punk rebel ecks
Dec 11, 2010

A shitty post? This calls for a dance of deduction.
Who would rather vote for the Juggalo Party than the Democratic Party?

ScrubLeague
Feb 11, 2007

Nap Ghost
As far as I can tell, the democratic party exists only to not win elections and email me at least three times a day to donate money to their cause of failing to win elections.

The party only serves to perpetuate itself, and should die the painful death it deserves.

Iron Twinkie
Apr 20, 2001

BOOP

anime was right posted:

antifa juggalo socialist fur party

I'm not sure what the fully automated gay space communist future they build will look like but I'm pretty sure they'll look back on this period of the early 21st century, as it was measured at that time, as the Normie Wars.

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:

ScrubLeague posted:

As far as I can tell, the democratic party exists only to not win elections and email me at least three times a day to donate money to their cause of failing to win elections.

The party only serves to perpetuate itself, and should die the painful death it deserves.

we live in a world where tankies are a thing and the leftmost party in the united states is arguing against its own constituents who have voted for single payer healthcare in colorado because it doesnt want to raise taxes on the super rich a tiny amount

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:
"it wouldnt be fair to JUST raise taxes on the rich" - every libdem i've talked to in the last few months

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 30 days!)

tankies have a more realistic program for tackling poverty than the Democrats

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool

ScrubLeague posted:

As far as I can tell, the democratic party exists only to not win elections and email me at least three times a day to donate money to their cause of failing to win elections.

The party only serves to perpetuate itself, and should die the painful death it deserves.

its to pay consultants and do nothing when they're in power

ScrubLeague
Feb 11, 2007

Nap Ghost

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

tankies have a more realistic program for tackling poverty than the Democrats

The democrat's program for tackling poverty is "just pretend it isn't there."

Iron Twinkie
Apr 20, 2001

BOOP

Al! posted:

"it wouldnt be fair to JUST raise taxes on the rich" - every libdem i've talked to in the last few months

Sure we live in a world where five white men control more assets than half the population of the entire planet but don't you think that the people that have been systematically denied the basic components of human life should have some skin in the game too?

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Al! posted:

"it wouldnt be fair to JUST raise taxes on the rich" - every libdem i've talked to in the last few months

skin in the gameeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:
im beginning to think that the libdembs have a dumb nonsense fplatform

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MElfYleGIVU

Oh Snapple!
Dec 27, 2005

Al! posted:

"it wouldnt be fair to JUST raise taxes on the rich" - every libdem i've talked to in the last few months

Man for people who hate means testing you bros sure like to use it with taxes!!!!

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool
vote anime 2018:
* eat the rich
* healthcare for all
* cafeteria pizza is now actually good
* ted cruz is deported to canada
* we build a wall around trump tower, which is now where all the nazis live
* we destroy all mentions and copies of heroes season 2 and beyond
* national anthem is now 'all star' by smash mouth

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:

anime was right posted:

vote anime 2018:
* eat the rich
* healthcare for all
* cafeteria pizza is now actually good
* ted cruz is deported to canada
* we build a wall around trump tower, which is now where all the nazis live
* we destroy all mentions and copies of heroes season 2 and beyond
* national anthem is now 'all star' by smash mouth

i would like it if ted cruz was deported to jupiter or a black hole, where he can do no further damage and where his species probably originates anyway

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool

Al! posted:

where his species probably originates anyway

planet canada

punk rebel ecks
Dec 11, 2010

A shitty post? This calls for a dance of deduction.

Al! posted:

"it wouldnt be fair to JUST raise taxes on the rich" - every libdem i've talked to in the last few months

Why do liberals like raising taxes on the middle and lower classes so much?

punk rebel ecks
Dec 11, 2010

A shitty post? This calls for a dance of deduction.
double post

Gene Hackman Fan
Dec 27, 2002

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Iron Twinkie posted:

Punching Nazis is hungry work after all.

and making it a party-like atmosphere will only help those punching the nazis in the pr game.

win win, and a plan i certainly support.

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:

punk rebel ecks posted:

Why do liberals like raising taxes on the middle and lower classes so much?

it's only fair

bedpan
Apr 23, 2008

Vox Nihili posted:

So weird that wealthy liberals are always eager to open a dialogue with Nazis.

Wraith of J.O.I.
Jan 25, 2012


Iron Twinkie posted:

https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/899282198456655875

http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/346680-post-election-chaos-leaves-dnc-far-behind-in-fundraising

From the Hill article, it looks like big donors are mad they didn't get the expected ROI from a Hillary Clinton presidency and small dollar donors (read working people) want nothing to do with the DNC. So, to what degree can the DNC operate a deficit? Has a political party gone bankrupt before? Not only are they going into 2018 with no clear message and a shattered and demoralized base but they are dead broke on top of that.

is there any info on how much groups like swing left and indivisible and other dem-adjacent advocacy groups are getting? wonder if people are giving smaller donations to them instead of a org they see as worthless and inept like the dnc

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler

anime was right posted:

vote anime 2018:
* eat the rich
* healthcare for all
* cafeteria pizza is now actually good
* ted cruz is deported to canada
* we build a wall around trump tower, which is now where all the nazis live
* we destroy all mentions and copies of heroes season 2 and beyond
* national anthem is now 'all star' by smash mouth

investigate pizzagate

Gene Hackman Fan
Dec 27, 2002

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Iron Twinkie posted:

https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/899282198456655875

http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/346680-post-election-chaos-leaves-dnc-far-behind-in-fundraising

From the Hill article, it looks like big donors are mad they didn't get the expected ROI from a Hillary Clinton presidency and small dollar donors (read working people) want nothing to do with the DNC. So, to what degree can the DNC operate a deficit? Has a political party gone bankrupt before? Not only are they going into 2018 with no clear message and a shattered and demoralized base but they are dead broke on top of that.

so wait, they saw that they smashed into the loving wall because they threw all their weight behind a conventional candidate going against a (and i'm being most generous here) wholly unconventional candidate and the determination from the autopsy (if they even loving bothered) is that "hey, she weakened the wall so we should be able to bust through for sure this time"

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Main Paineframe
Oct 27, 2010

Iron Twinkie posted:

https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/899282198456655875

http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/346680-post-election-chaos-leaves-dnc-far-behind-in-fundraising

From the Hill article, it looks like big donors are mad they didn't get the expected ROI from a Hillary Clinton presidency and small dollar donors (read working people) want nothing to do with the DNC. So, to what degree can the DNC operate a deficit? Has a political party gone bankrupt before? Not only are they going into 2018 with no clear message and a shattered and demoralized base but they are dead broke on top of that.

Hillary massively outraised Trump and they milked the donors real hard, and then they still bombed fantastically

now the donors are a whole lot less inclined to donate even more money to rebuild the party after it used their previous donations to destroy itself

also, the DNC fired basically all the low-level officials after 2016 and hasn't rehired anyone yet

between that and not having a coherent message of any kind yet, donors aren't especially inclined to throw money into that garbage fire just yet

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