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Grassy Knowles posted:I don't see what you're seeing; could someone explain it? It's from Belgian occupation of The Congo "Congolese children and wives whose fathers or husbands failed to meet rubber collection quotas were often punished by having their hands cut off" e:f,b
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Grassy Knowles posted:I don't see what you're seeing; could someone explain it? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atrocities_in_the_Congo_Free_State e: DAMMIT
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Mierenneuker posted:Belgium had a very hands-on approach to chopping off hands in Congo: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atrocities_in_the_Congo_Free_State#Mutilation_and_brutality Oh, wow. So it's actually just my lack of knowledge. Thanks.
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Grassy Knowles posted:Oh, wow. So it's actually just my lack of knowledge. Thanks. Don't worry! I had the same gap a while ago until someone made an amazing Belgian hands off joke that everyone  'd to and I Googled to find out why.
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Aug 19, 2017 13:37
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Oh God, I wish it was Goatse I was seeing and not that tragedy.
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Aug 19, 2017 14:21
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Sad part is they probably remembered the ring, but there's nothing to put it on. Gift of the magi.
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Aug 19, 2017 14:24
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At least belgian cocoa is fair trade, that's pretty even-handed of them.
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Aug 19, 2017 16:33
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http://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2017/08/15/543707953/applebees-ditches-millennials Hip and cool millennial marketing kind of reminds me of appealing to kids with skateboarding animals.
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Aug 19, 2017 16:54
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Andorra posted:http://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2017/08/15/543707953/applebees-ditches-millennials They were thinking millennials would be "a more youthful and affluent demographic ", that was their problem, millennials have no money
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Aug 19, 2017 21:48
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InediblePenguin posted:They were thinking millennials would be "a more youthful and affluent demographic ", that was their problem, millennials have no money There are millennials with tons of money and I've sold thm train tours through south east asia that cost upwards of 5k a night to prove it. They are not most millennials, and surprise surprise applebees core demo exists within the Millennial populace where applebees is located: not cities
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Aug 19, 2017 23:41
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Fishstick posted:I feel like Belgian advertisements could stand to be a little more self-aware when it comes to cocoa and "hands off" jokes Is that supposed to be a Black maid as well? Tough to tell with the angle but blackface and minstrels are still a thing in Belgium, right? I think they’re doing all of this on purpose at this stage.
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Aug 20, 2017 15:18
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Krispy Kareem posted:Is that supposed to be a Black maid as well? Tough to tell with the angle but blackface and minstrels are still a thing in Belgium, right? Since Google is really hard for everyone. The brand is Dutch, they sell Belgian chocolate. All of their packages have open mouths like that. The cutting of hands in the Belgian Congo is associated with the rubber industry. Jesus Christ, at least look poo poo up before you all get your panties in a twist about your imaginary racism.
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Aug 20, 2017 18:38
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Non Serviam posted:Since Google is really hard for everyone. Reading threads must be hard too
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Aug 20, 2017 18:53
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Non Serviam posted:Since Google is really hard for everyone.
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Aug 20, 2017 20:13
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Stuntman posted:Triggered? Nah, just slightly annoyed.
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Aug 20, 2017 22:59
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Krispy Kareem posted:Is that supposed to be a Black maid as well? Tough to tell with the angle but blackface and minstrels are still a thing in Belgium, right? Everything that shows skin on that is white. White arms, white hands. Save the pitchforks for another time
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Aug 20, 2017 23:10
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Always assume the worst when Belgians are involved.
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Aug 20, 2017 23:11
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Implications aside that's a really unsettling label. Who would find that sort of marketing appealing? Vore fetishists? Attack on Titan fans?
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Aug 21, 2017 01:30
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they'll never be the hand of a major corporation after a blunder like that!
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Aug 21, 2017 01:37
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Non Serviam posted:Since Google is really hard for everyone. And yet both blackface and minstrels are a thing in Belgium. When in doubt, always bet on uncomfortable Dutch traditions.
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SUPERMAN'S GAL PAL posted:Implications aside that's a really unsettling label. Who would find that sort of marketing appealing? Vore fetishists? Attack on Titan fans? Belgians
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Aug 21, 2017 02:30
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Krispy Kareem posted:And yet both blackface and minstrels are a thing in Belgium. In this case it's the Dutch. You're thinking of the totally respectful and totally not awkward Black Peter.
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Aug 21, 2017 08:24
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EmmyOk posted:"Congolese children and wives whose fathers or husbands failed to meet rubber collection quotas were often punished by having their hands cut off" Belgian here, and that's a disgusting myth propagated by the Anglosaxons in an attempt to slander our beautiful colony. We shot the people who failed to meet rubber quotas, thank you very much. We only cut off their hands after they died, because we had a lack of munitions in the colony, and the soldiers had to justify every shot fired. And sometimes a soldier didn't quite hit the mark, and whoever he shot ended up surviving and complaining to the British press. 
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Aug 21, 2017 08:45
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Vox did a video about Black Peter on Youtube and seemingly every racist Dutch person ever came to comment on how Americans should shut the gently caress up about other countries
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Aug 21, 2017 08:47
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Hey to be fair more than one country can be terrible *sips tea staring wistfully at map of the former British empire*
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Aug 21, 2017 08:51
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Mu Zeta posted:Vox did a video about Black Peter on Youtube and seemingly every racist Dutch person ever came to comment on how Americans should shut the gently caress up about other countries People get their drat lives threatened for suggesting that Zwarte Piet should be changed or removed from Sinterklaas. A children's holiday.
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Aug 21, 2017 09:23
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Non Serviam posted:In this case it's the Dutch. You're thinking of the totally respectful and totally not awkward Black Peter. Black Pete is very much also a Thing in Belgium
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Aug 21, 2017 11:33
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PYF is cyclical, now someone will post about the US and Belgium bro-fisting as they pass each other in the street and we can do it all again next month.
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Aug 21, 2017 11:52
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Mu Zeta posted:Vox did a video about Black Peter on Youtube and seemingly every racist Dutch person ever came to comment on how Americans should shut the gently caress up about other countries Well, you should shut the gently caress up about other countries. But yeah, Black Pete needs to go pronto, replaced with chimney sweep clowns or something. The thing is that no one seems to want instant changes, they're all about gradually making adjustments and hoping that the rest of the country follow suit. The problem is that they should have started that process way back at the end of the century.
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Aug 21, 2017 12:05
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The rainbow Piets was a dumb marketing move. I love how they won't just have a guy whose face is darkened with black dust, which would fit the story. Nope it's got to be full on makeup with red lips and everything.
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Aug 21, 2017 14:40
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Andorra posted:http://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2017/08/15/543707953/applebees-ditches-millennials Well here's the problem: quote:Applebee's wanted to lure millennials with dishes like barbecue shrimp in a sriracha-lime sauce; chicken wonton tacos; and a pork, ham and bacon sandwich. There's no avocado toast.
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The "chimney sweeper" story is just made up by people who'd love not to be racist anyway. The true origin of Black Pete is that he's a Moorish traveler who accompanied Saint Nicolas (a Spaniard). While it's kind of annoying we use a red-lips blackface for it, it's also a symbol that predates the colonies in Congo, and it's not supposed to be a mockery. I wouldn't mind if we switched him to a soot-faced chimney sweeper for reals though. Perhaps the oddest point of view I've heard re: Black Pete are a few people in the black community who want it to be preserved because they like... dressing up as black pete. I'm not sure where the hell this falls on the racism scale.
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Double reverse ironic racism?
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Cosplaying Uncle Toms
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Zamboni_Rodeo posted:
They're helping people get on the property ladder.
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Mierenneuker posted:Well, you should shut the gently caress up about other countries. Hot take. Care to list the circumstances people can legitimately level criticism? Do I need to write a book before I can say Ready Player One sucks? Do I need to produce a movie before I can say I love the Shawshank Redemption? Do I need to be a millionaire before I talk about how the rich have too much money? And before your obvious retort, I'm Canadian.
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Andorra posted:http://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2017/08/15/543707953/applebees-ditches-millennials quote:"You see very weak results from people like Ruby Tuesday's, Friday's and Chili's as well," says Joe Pawlak of Technomic, a food service research firm. "Consumers are saying that all these people are offering the same food items, the decors are the same, and also that prices have become very high in these places." I wonder if/when we'll see a chain restaurant collapse like the current retail chain/mall collapse. There's no reason we need multiple indistinguishable chain restaurants all serving generic American food. When the boomers start dying, probably. 
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Haifisch posted:I like how there's no in-article response to this, just crickets. People like ruby tuesdays and chillies.
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Aug 21, 2017 18:59
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Haifisch posted:I like how there's no in-article response to this, just crickets. I think we're already in it. In the Retail Collapse thread people have posted lists of chains that are either failing or struggling. There's really no way out for garbo chains like Olive Garden and Applebee's. They've been in a race to the bottom on food quality for decades, yet still raising their prices. We snake people will happily eat unhealthy food, but it has to be either tasty or cheap, and the mall parking lot restaurants fail on both counts. The cluttered, tacky decor and overwhelmingly huge menus are a problem too, but more as evidence that they haven't kept up with trends. I think there's also a widening gap between the restaurants we go to just to get some food down and places we go to have a special dining experience. I think the last few generations were satisfied by a kind of "meet in the middle" approach, adequate food in a moderately interesting setting, but now things are polarizing. Fast Casual is killing it, with stripped-down industrial cafeteria settings, and quirky local places are doing better than ever, once you adjust for the usual failure rate of restaurants. I don't really get what problem the big chains are trying to solve these days - if you want something edible and predictable, fast-casual is going to do it faster and cheaper. If you want something good you are definitely barking up the wrong tree if you go to any of the chains, and yelp exists now so even being out of town isn't that big of a hurdle to finding something amazing to eat at a local place. The chains can't even cater to the unadventurous eaters who want the same meal every time they go out, because they're constantly revamping their menus these days, and there is no quicker way to make a picky eater into an enemy for life.
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Cumslut1895 posted:People like ruby tuesdays and chillies.
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