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BravestOfTheLamps
Oct 12, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Lipstick Apathy
Just lol that they had Joss Whedon come in to chop up the movie, only for him then to lose his brand value.

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BravestOfTheLamps
Oct 12, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Lipstick Apathy

Karloff posted:

Anyone who uses the term virtue signalling seriously is an idiot, sorry.

Weren't you they guy who yelled about how people were worshipping Badwrong Batman? Glass houses, dude.

Karloff
Mar 21, 2013

No. You deliberately quoted me out of context. You know this, and have admitted to in the past, but now you’re back again playing the same old shtick. Not interested in having an internet fight with you about Batman V Superman, this was months ago, get over it.

Autism Sneaks
Nov 21, 2016

Karloff posted:

Anyone who uses the term virtue signalling seriously is an idiot, sorry.

What about if you're an evolutionary biologist using it within the context of signal theory and not Ann Coulter

BravestOfTheLamps
Oct 12, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Lipstick Apathy

Karloff posted:

No. You deliberately quoted me out of context. You know this, and have admitted to in the past, but now you’re back again playing the same old shtick. Not interested in having an internet fight with you about Batman V Superman, this was months ago, get over it.

lol at not liking the second good Batman movie after the Adam West one.

John Wick of Dogs
Mar 4, 2017

A real hellraiser


Publicly saying how good a feminist he was, "signalling" it in interviews and on Twitter, so he could take advantage of fans and actresses was literally what he did though. Yeah that term is usually used by people pretending everyone is as lovely as they are, and those who aren't are faking it. But in this case it literally fits the context of the situation.

The term I prefer is "performative wokeness" however, simply because it doesn't have the same stigma.

Renoistic
Jul 27, 2007

Everyone has a
guardian angel.
I prefer "hypocrite" myself.

John Wick of Dogs
Mar 4, 2017

A real hellraiser


There a little more to it than hypocrisy. Hypocrisy is doing the opposite from what you preach. Apart from that he was cashing in, using this representation for personal gain.

Snowman_McK
Jan 31, 2010

Al Borland Corp. posted:

Publicly saying how good a feminist he was, "signalling" it in interviews and on Twitter, so he could take advantage of fans and actresses was literally what he did though. Yeah that term is usually used by people pretending everyone is as lovely as they are, and those who aren't are faking it. But in this case it literally fits the context of the situation.

The term I prefer is "performative wokeness" however, simply because it doesn't have the same stigma.

I prefer 'brogressive' or 'brocialist'

MacheteZombie
Feb 4, 2007
"Piece of poo poo"

RBA Starblade
Apr 28, 2008

Going Home.

Games Idiot Court Jester

MacheteZombie posted:

"Piece of poo poo"

Catchy...I like it!

SuperMechagodzilla
Jun 9, 2007

NEWT REBORN
You don't need to invent zany new terms to call him a fraud.

Jimbot
Jul 22, 2008

Well, we all know WB is a fickle loving company, so get on social media to get Joss Whedon off the project before he ruins Batgirl for the big screen. We already have one hack doing so in the animated capacity (between the bouts of him perving on Harley Quinn). Bring out the Snyder signal or get Patty Jenkins on the phone to finish this movie too, WB. Personal preferences not withstanding, just about every person who goes to see a movie likes it looking like a movie and not a cheap TV show.

John Wick of Dogs
Mar 4, 2017

A real hellraiser


SuperMechagodzilla posted:

You don't need to invent zany new terms to call him a fraud.

Performative Wokeness in particular was coined by Austin Walker to describe Nick Robinson who used his reputation as a sensitive guy and feminist ally in order to hit on fans and industry insiders and coerce them for nudes.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Snowman_McK posted:

I prefer 'brogressive' or 'brocialist'

Those are used solely to smear Bernie Sanders supporters as misogynist white men and erase women and minorities who overwhelmingly prefer him by last poll, btw.

VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE
Aug 1, 2004

whoa, what just happened here?







College Slice

Inescapable Duck posted:

Those are used solely to smear Bernie Sanders supporters as misogynist white men and erase women and minorities who overwhelmingly prefer him by last poll, btw.

it is certainly broadly applicable to a category of his supporters.

And not overwhelmingly enough, it appears.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE posted:

it is certainly broadly applicable to a category of his supporters.

And not overwhelmingly enough, it appears.

Rethink this.

(There actually is some evidence that the vast majority of 'BernieBros' people complain about were literally Russian bots. Also even the Democrats admit the primaries were rigged. It's not a good look)

Ghost Leviathan fucked around with this message at 15:27 on Aug 21, 2017

Jimbot
Jul 22, 2008

Edit: Yeah, not the thread for it.

Jimbot fucked around with this message at 16:41 on Aug 21, 2017

VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE
Aug 1, 2004

whoa, what just happened here?







College Slice

Inescapable Duck posted:

Rethink this.

(There actually is some evidence that the vast majority of 'BernieBros' people complain about were literally Russian bots. Also even the Democrats admit the primaries were rigged. It's not a good look)

Nice, using the Russian bots claim to deflect from a belief you only hold because of Russian bots.

John Wick of Dogs
Mar 4, 2017

A real hellraiser


Shut the gently caress up about Democratic primary bullshit in the Justice League thread.

MacheteZombie
Feb 4, 2007
It's the dnd election thread all over again

Al Borland Corp. posted:

Shut the gently caress up about Democratic primary bullshit in the Justice League thread.

:respek:

MacheteZombie fucked around with this message at 16:02 on Aug 21, 2017

Jose Oquendo
Jun 20, 2004

Star Trek: The Motion Picture is a boring movie

Martman
Nov 20, 2006

There's a bad man in charge of the Justice League, it's not fair. Save us, Zack!!

Jenny Angel
Oct 24, 2010

Out of Control
Hard to Regulate
Anything Goes!
Lipstick Apathy
Zack Snyder: loves to gently caress constantly within the context of a loving marriage, good
Joss Whedon: loves to gently caress vulnerable women that he pressures via his celebrity, bad

That's another moviefight in the books for the legend, Dangerous Zachary

Mr. Apollo
Nov 8, 2000

SuperMechagodzilla posted:

You don't need to invent zany new terms to call him a fraud.
This is my headcanon now.

well why not
Feb 10, 2009




Joss is 100% the guy in highschool who seems nice but texts every woman he knows way, way too much.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Jenny Angel posted:

Zack Snyder: loves to gently caress constantly within the context of a loving marriage, good
Joss Whedon: loves to gently caress vulnerable women that he pressures via his celebrity, bad

That's another moviefight in the books for the legend, Dangerous Zachary

And Snyder had to take time off to mourn his daughter.

Something something, the great highs and tragic lows of a fulfilling family relationship in DC vs the shallow venal indulgences of Marvel.

porfiria
Dec 10, 2008

by Modern Video Games
Zach Snyder keeping women pregnant for that long is inherently patriarchal though :confused:

YOLOsubmarine
Oct 19, 2004

When asked which Pokemon he evolved into, Kamara pauses.

"Motherfucking, what's that big dragon shit? That orange motherfucker. Charizard."

Someone please update the our guy/their guy image meme to include Zack standing with his loving family while Joss looms huge and malevolent behind underage cosplayers and leers crudely.

John Wick of Dogs
Mar 4, 2017

A real hellraiser


Inherently Matriarchal I think you mean. Zackman lives for love and fights for family.

The REAL Goobusters
Apr 25, 2008

Codependent Poster posted:

Chris Evans apparently hated working for Whedon so much he wanted to give up acting.

please give me a source on this

Megaman's Jockstrap
Jul 16, 2000

What a horrible thread to have a post.

Al Borland Corp. posted:

Performative Wokeness in particular was coined by Austin Walker to describe Nick Robinson who used his reputation as a sensitive guy and feminist ally in order to hit on fans and industry insiders and coerce them for nudes.

I don't think so, Tim.

https://www.nylon.com/articles/end-of-wokeness

(check date of the article)

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours

SuperMechagodzilla posted:

You don't need to invent zany new terms to call him a fraud.

Yeah.

MariusLecter
Sep 5, 2009

NI MUERTE NI MIEDO

big money big clit posted:

Someone please update the our guy/their guy image meme to include Zack standing with his loving family while Joss looms huge and malevolent behind underage cosplayers and leers crudely.

Also Micheal Bay camera loving and being a all around creep to every girl in sight.

John Wick of Dogs
Mar 4, 2017

A real hellraiser


If you ask the average comic book movie fan they'll basically tell you Zack Snyder and Michael Bay are the same person. They really think that.

Megaman's Jockstrap
Jul 16, 2000

What a horrible thread to have a post.

Al Borland Corp. posted:

If you ask the average comic book movie fan they'll basically tell you Zack Snyder and Michael Bay are the same person. They really think that.

Well that's why I chat with y'all here instead of hanging around comic book stores.

Snowman_McK
Jan 31, 2010
My favourite is the guy who owns the local comic book shop. He's a really cool dude and really knows his stuff when it comes to comics, but he believes Man of Steel was made by someone who hates Superman and wanted to make a Superman movie without any Superman stuff.

John Wick of Dogs
Mar 4, 2017

A real hellraiser


I've even heard it from really smart dudes I like, like on I Don't Even Own A Television.

Sir Kodiak
May 14, 2007


Snowman_McK posted:

My favourite is the guy who owns the local comic book shop. He's a really cool dude and really knows his stuff when it comes to comics, but he believes Man of Steel was made by someone who hates Superman and wanted to make a Superman movie without any Superman stuff.

This opinion is so weird to me, because Man of Steel has the best Superman.

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Snowman_McK
Jan 31, 2010

Sir Kodiak posted:

This opinion is so weird to me, because Man of Steel has the best Superman.

People, generally, are really bad at explaining why they didn't like stuff. The first reactions I read (not here, really) was that they thought the film was trying to be 'too realistic.' They couldn't get past the 'Produced by Christopher Nolan' and just structured their criticism around that, regardless of whether it made any sense.

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