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McGlockenshire posted:The line about how "why do asians and afraicans get ethnostates but not whites!?" is a standard beginner's argument among white nationalist recruiters.
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Aug 20, 2017 11:28
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sheep-dodger posted:loving lol at pretty much any subsaharan African state being an ethnostate, thanks to colonialism drawing borders all of them contain multiple ethnicities and tribes They pretty much only see one "African" race. Asians might get off easier for the less racist, but they still see it as a national thing like Japanese, Chinese, Korean etc. and not the multitude of ethnic groups contained within each country.
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Aug 20, 2017 11:32
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RagnarokAngel posted:They pretty much only see one "African" race. It's doubly idiotic because the same people are going to cry about the white minority in South Africa no longer being in power. Ethnostate is good, but black ethnostate is... Bad?
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Aug 20, 2017 11:37
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sheep-dodger posted:It's doubly idiotic because the same people are going to cry about the white minority in South Africa no longer being in power. Ethnostate is good, but black ethnostate is... Bad? More like "why do they get a shiny toy (which doesn't exist) and I don't wah wah wah"
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Aug 20, 2017 11:38
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SocketWrench posted:If there was one thing I thought I'd never see it would be freep siding with literal Nazis.
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Aug 20, 2017 12:23
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Ré resettling refugees in Idaho:quote:No we do not have to take them...it is despicable what so called holy people do in Christ’s name and Congress approved. Religion is corrupt by snakes in Congress. If only we had some way of knowing what Jesus would've said about taking in refugees...
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Aug 20, 2017 14:04
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Germany, well-known for having Hitler statues and swastikas everywhere in 2017:quote:I'm not fan of the Confederacy, and what cities choose to do with the statues within their limits that they own is up to them.
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Aug 20, 2017 14:07
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TapTheForwardAssist posted:Germany, well-known for having Hitler statues and swastikas everywhere in 2017: Remembered sure. Idolizing traitors, racists and bastards, no. Germany remembers its history and doesn't sugar coat it. They don't erect statues of Nazis and declare it "history".
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Aug 20, 2017 16:11
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SocketWrench posted:Remembered sure. Idolizing traitors, racists and bastards, no. Thats literally what TapTheForwardAssist is saying.
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Aug 20, 2017 18:48
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SocketWrench posted:Remembered sure. Idolizing traitors, racists and bastards, no. I know a shitload of people are being disingenuous but at the same time I wonder how bad education around this is driving the "don't forget history" response? Like, how many people think these are monuments that are meant to educate about the horrors of the Civil War and don't know about the Daughters of Confederacy and their goals?
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Aug 20, 2017 18:54
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Lightning Lord posted:I know a shitload of people are being disingenuous but at the same time I wonder how bad education around this is driving the "don't forget history" response? Like, how many people think these are monuments that are meant to educate about the horrors of the Civil War and don't know about the Daughters of Confederacy and their goals? It's about being raised to think that General Lee was an American Hero on par with Washington or Lincoln, but knowing just enough that slavery is bad and you look bad if you defend it. So they meet halfway and say that it isn't about slavery it's about memorializing heroes.
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Aug 20, 2017 19:01
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RagnarokAngel posted:It's about being raised to think that General Lee was an American Hero on par with Washington or Lincoln, but knowing just enough that slavery is bad and you look bad if you defend it. So they meet halfway and say that it isn't about slavery it's about memorializing heroes. Yeah but people who weren't raised that way make this argument too. Unless you're saying Lee has been generally idolized in America, not just in the South, then I can agree with that.
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Aug 20, 2017 19:03
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Lightning Lord posted:Yeah but people who weren't raised that way make this argument too. Unless you're saying Lee has been generally idolized in America, not just in the South, then I can agree with that. He kind of has. At least the history books I had in high school focused on him being a honorable combatant during the civil war. Never mentioned his treatment of slaves or captured black soldiers.
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Aug 20, 2017 19:05
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Americans are raised to see half measures as the "high ground". It's why "Well I don't like what these guys are saying but they have a right to free speech" is such a common response to the rise of fascist movements right now. If you take a side that's seen as being an extremist but if you're willing to say "Well I may not like X but I respect their right to say it" you seem like the emotionally detached ubermensch. The civil war ends up getting taught much the same way.
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Aug 20, 2017 19:10
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Lightning Lord posted:I know a shitload of people are being disingenuous but at the same time I wonder how bad education around this is driving the "don't forget history" response? Like, how many people think these are monuments that are meant to educate about the horrors of the Civil War and don't know about the Daughters of Confederacy and their goals? Well, when I went to school history class was boredom. They wanted you to memorize details about policies or details about some random person rather than expand on any of the background. I looked forward to the Civil War portion of the class only for it to be about a week long and focus on background politics before we moved on to reconstruction. Classes are very rushed, the material is often bland and not very detailed about the "bad" things. The deepest it ever delved into slavery was "The civil war was fought over slavery, the end". It's not likely to have improved from there over the decades with republicans constantly trying to gut education. Hell, that was just junior high. High School history was a week of watching Glory and having a test on it. So you got to see that "yeah, the south was mean to slaves, but so was the north, so they're both bad, durr" SocketWrench fucked around with this message at 19:47 on Aug 20, 2017 |
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Aug 20, 2017 19:44
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Admiral Ray posted:He kind of has. At least the history books I had in high school focused on him being a honorable combatant during the civil war. Never mentioned his treatment of slaves or captured black soldiers. There's a very specific reason for this; the Texas is the largest purchaser of school books, which means that publishers tailor their offerings to be most appealing to their curriculum. They don't bother to tweek said books for the other states, so most everyone ends up reading whatever Texas decided was the most appropriate teaching materials.
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Aug 20, 2017 20:52
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Keeshhound posted:There's a very specific reason for this; the Texas is the largest purchaser of school books, which means that publishers tailor their offerings to be most appealing to their curriculum. They don't bother to tweek said books for the other states, so most everyone ends up reading whatever Texas decided was the most appropriate teaching materials. I grew up in Cali so I had extra sections put in since we're also a giant market, but it still was super positive towards Lee. The book did point out that the South fought for slavery, explicitly, but since they tried to be neutral they never really rammed home the moral angle of slavery being insanely awful. That was left as an exercise for the reader.
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Aug 20, 2017 23:32
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Admiral Ray posted:It might come from the whole "many servicemen in WWII didn't even fire their rifle" thing that S.L.A. Marshall probably invented from whole cloth FTFY. Admiral Ray posted:He kind of has. At least the history books I had in high school focused on him being a honorable combatant during the civil war. Never mentioned his treatment of slaves or captured black soldiers. Just last week I had to explain to my mother, who's even more of a dyed-in-the-wool New England Yankee than me, that no, Lee really wasn't just a reluctant rebel who loved Virginia so much he had to commit treason for it. Keeshhound posted:There's a very specific reason for this; the Texas is the largest purchaser of school books, which means that publishers tailor their offerings to be most appealing to their curriculum. They don't bother to tweek said books for the other states, so most everyone ends up reading whatever Texas decided was the most appropriate teaching materials. There's an even more specific reason which goes back further: the first histories of the Civil War were written in the 1870s and 80s, almost entirely written by ex-Confederates with an ax to grind. Later school books were based off of them at one or more remove, until quite recently.
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Aug 21, 2017 01:13
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Black Lesbian Rioter Who Toppled Confederate Statue In Durham May Receive Scholarship This should be good.  quote:Put her in jail with no bond set. Fat Fat Fattie! quote:To: Morgana Your daily reminder that liberals are the real racists. quote:To: Morgana Reward Nazis, get more Nazis...  quote:To: Morgana quote:To: tired&retired quote:To: Morgana And she stinks too! quote:To: tired&retired quote:To: Morgana Oh word? quote:To: Yaelle quote:To: Morgana quote:To: Olog-hai Holy poo poo they're bringing out all the dogwhistles for this one! quote:To: Morgana Sounds good to me. quote:To: blueunicorn6; Da Coyote; Chode quote:To: Morgana Oh wow, a Freeper actually calls out conservatives on playing the "Real Racist" game! quote:To: tired&retired ...Only to get cock-blocked with a "Lincoln Freed the Slaves" counter. quote:To: WatchungEagle quote:To: Morgana quote:To: Morgana
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Aug 21, 2017 02:36
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Jagged Jim posted:Black Lesbian Rioter Who Toppled Confederate Statue In Durham May Receive Scholarship It still amazes me these people will cite Lincoln as the example they aren't racist in one sentence and then the next is a racist rant
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Aug 21, 2017 03:14
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Anti-Semitic signs hung on Oregon overpasses Somebody hung “UNJEW HUMANITY” False Flag! quote:To: Eleutheria5 quote:To: Fresh Wind Of course they find an opportunity to blow the old dogwhistle. quote:To: Eleutheria5 quote:To: 17th Miss Regt Move to eastern side of the state; You get all the benefits of a not completely insane state government and can be as big of a raging conservative rear end in a top hat as you want. quote:To: Eleutheria5 er... quote:To: Eleutheria5 quote:To: Eleutheria5 Have I said False Flag yet? quote:To: Fresh Wind Maybe the Dershowitz Family wants a safe space where they can travel without having to see any anti-semetic signs, what snowflakes!  quote:To: Eleutheria5 quote:To: Eleutheria5 quote:To: Fresh Wind quote:To: Eleutheria5 quote:To: VR-21
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Aug 21, 2017 03:38
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Jagged Jim posted:Move to eastern side of the state; You get all the benefits of a not completely insane state government and can be as big of a raging conservative rear end in a top hat as you want. Here's Evangelical students returning university diplomas to protest Trump posted by freeper rstark56 In specific, it's diplomas from the fundamentalist Christian Liberty University. Ah, fundies. Haven't thought of that term in a while. I wonder if FSTDT is still going. "Yes yes, dear, that's nice, but here let me talk about Islam." quote:To: rstark56 Is there a special term for third-party use of sour grapes? quote:To: rstark56 I'm half way between a gently caress YOU and  quote:To: rstark56 quote:To: Rastus Freep thread, I have a confession to make. I couldn't remember which of freep's favorite people wrote Rules for Radicals so I had to look it up. Here's a bit of Wikipedia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rules_for_Radicals posted:Rules for Radicals: A Pragmatic Primer for Realistic Radicals is the last book published in 1971 by activist and writer Saul D. Alinsky shortly before his death. His goal for the Rules for Radicals was to create a guide for future community organizers to use in uniting low-income communities, or "Have-Nots", in order for them to gain social, political, legal, and economic power. So uh which march please? quote:To: Rastus Freepers: quote:To: rstark56 Post fifteen is someone quoting the entirety of the lengthy rant in post 3 and adding "Good points!" Never change, internet forums. I'm going to need to go back and see who else is writing Trump fanfic. quote:To: 2banana  quote:To: rstark56 Oh my god are you kidding me quote:To: rstark56 ... zero? quote:To: rstark56 No, you wouldn't even take them seriously even then. You'd laugh in delight and make jokes. quote:To: rstark56 Oh god, they noticed that, and I missed the thread!? quote:To: rstark56 quote:To: ChildOfThe60s I'm surprised it took this long. quote:To: rstark56 February 2017 regdate. I'm invoking Poe's Law. It's too perfect to be real. quote:To: wrcase Proof that Jerry Falwell was a source of evil in this world, and his son is no better. quote:To: SkyDancer
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Aug 21, 2017 04:43
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Remember Freep predicting that "the blacks" would turn out in droves to vote for Trump "because he's a playa"? Fake Edit: Big Pun (1998) https://youtu.be/aRBHlMoE7x8
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Aug 21, 2017 05:54
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The best freep is when big business squashes their dumb bullshit fundy laws. : "More money = better than" "money = speech" "corporations are people, my friend" "Job Creators have a god given right to pay congress unlimited amounts of money to pass the laws they want"also : "what, why do corporations count more to the government than we do  "
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Aug 21, 2017 06:13
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VitalSigns posted:The best freep is when big business squashes their dumb bullshit fundy laws. It's because they assume big businesses on their side. Which is not true. Big business is on their own side and does not give a gently caress about them. Big business might line up with them on economic issues but only because their view of economic issues is make the rich richer because Reagan fed them a lie that they gladly swallowed. On social issues, big business is probably privately conservative but since the Liberals won the cultural War they will act and support liberal policy because that gets the more money through positive PR.
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Aug 21, 2017 06:21
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Is liberty U the one where you get expelled for fornication if you're raped? Or was that byu?
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Aug 21, 2017 06:22
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Gee Mikey, as recently as a half-century ago!quote:Mike Huckabee to Trump: Make Democrats 'eat' the fact they erected many Confederate monuments Has "Democrats are the real racists" ever convinced more than a half-dozen minority Americans to join the GOP?
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Aug 21, 2017 06:29
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^ And now democrats are taking them down. you'd think freep would see this as a win rather than "Muh history"TapTheForwardAssist posted:Remember Freep predicting that "the blacks" would turn out in droves to vote for Trump "because he's a playa"? And now even freep's "own team" is turning its back on Trump SocketWrench fucked around with this message at 07:02 on Aug 21, 2017 |
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Aug 21, 2017 06:59
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Mustached Demon posted:Is liberty U the one where you get expelled for fornication if you're raped? Or was that byu? It's Liberty. And also Pensacola Christian College. https://twitter.com/ianbremmer/status/898980084920483846 Pensacola Christian College is the one this guy was going to. They expelled him.
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Aug 21, 2017 13:13
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It's really weird how the logic at these colleges is the exact same as those villages in Afghanistan where they stone women for being raped.
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Aug 21, 2017 13:24
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Radish posted:It's really weird how the logic at these colleges is the exact same as those villages in Afghanistan where they stone women for being raped. It's one of the great ironies, really. Fundamentalist Christians and fundamentalist Muslims have far more in common than they have in difference.
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Aug 21, 2017 13:29
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Cythereal posted:It's one of the great ironies, really. Fundamentalist Christians and fundamentalist Muslims have far more in common than they have in difference.
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Aug 21, 2017 13:35
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Turns out that lovely theocrats are more or less equally lovely regardless of the particular flavour.
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Aug 21, 2017 13:35
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Man, good thing Trump brought freep so much winning, right?
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Aug 21, 2017 13:37
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Chortles posted:I remember this being recognized pre-9/11, with subsequent discrimination/hate crimes moving American Muslims leftward...? Yup. Muslims used to be a very reliable Republican voting bloc. Similar social values, often well educated and wealthy, and well above average tendency to vote. After 9/11, Muslims quickly became a reliable Democrat voting bloc.
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Aug 21, 2017 13:38
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Cythereal posted:Yup. Muslims used to be a very reliable Republican voting bloc. Similar social values, often well educated and wealthy, and well above average tendency to vote. After 9/11, Muslims quickly became a reliable Democrat voting bloc.
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Aug 21, 2017 14:30
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Re Trump's speech this morning:quote:Trump is always right if you are pro-USA. If you are a globalist, you are seldom going to like what Trump says. quote:
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Aug 21, 2017 14:43
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The Trump administration just disbanded a federal advisory committee on climate change Washington Post ^ | Aug. 20, 2017 | Juliet Eilperin Posted on 8/20/2017, 11:53:57 PM by Innovative The Trump administration has decided to disband the federal advisory panel for the National Climate Assessment, a group aimed at helping policymakers and private-sector officials incorporate the government’s climate analysis into long-term planning. quote:It’s wonderful having the grown-ups in charge!
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Aug 21, 2017 14:46
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Climate change denial is the purest form of FYGM.
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Aug 21, 2017 14:57
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