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the wise man said: dont punch nazis because soon you will find you are the punchee
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your lips say "punch nazis" but your heart screams "punch everyone who disagrees w/ me"
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Aug 21, 2017 16:09
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the trump tutelage posted:your lips say "punch nazis" but your heart screams "punch everyone who disagrees w/ me, if they're nazis"
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Aug 21, 2017 16:10
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i didn't say that!!
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Aug 21, 2017 16:11
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the slippery slope arguments re: punching nazis has always been weird to me nobody has ever slid down that slope, there is a pretty clear line between nazis and not nazis
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Aug 21, 2017 16:11
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the trump tutelage posted:k it should be trivially easy then to find direct quotes from the aforementioned speakers please go on well, take 'based stickman' who got the name for being photographed attacking people while marching as a fascist. he calls for all muslim immigration to america to end on the basis that muslims are "filfth" on twitter, and also lists 'march of the titans:a history of the white race' as his favorite book on facebook and likes openly neo-nazi groups.
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Aug 21, 2017 16:12
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if you want to kill all non-whites then you get the poo poo kicked out of you if you don't then you don't ~problem solved~
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Aug 21, 2017 16:13
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stop punching!!! he's not a nazi, he's a proud boy Pepe-American!!
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Aug 21, 2017 16:19
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Yinlock posted:the slippery slope arguments re: punching nazis has always been weird to me I don't think there is, which is a problem, because I don't see much of an issue with punching actual neonazis and klan members besides lingering concerns about normalizing political violence. People are forgetting that before Richard Spencer caught one in the jaw and "see a nazi, punch a nazi" blew up as a meme, run-of-the-mill Trump supporters and alt-light commentators were being labeled as fascists and nazis. People are still being called nazis as a pejorative. If you want to reserve the right to punch nazis, then at least be rigorous and consistent in who you call a nazi, because you're inciting violence against whoever you label whether they deserve it or not.
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Aug 21, 2017 16:25
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now let's look at augustus invictus, who biolante defends as 'not a nazi' well to start, he's a holocaust denier quote:“Do I believe that 6 million Jews were killed by evil Hitler? Is that what you’re asking me?” he said. “Okay, then I am still waiting to see those facts.” https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2017/08/15/holocaust-denier-augustus-invictus-announces-another-campaign-us-senate Richard Spencer also credits him with the first draft of the 'Charlottesville Statement.' http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/article167083427.html i dunno about his draft, but here's the first bit of what the final version of that document has to say quote:1. Race i don't want to quote a neo-nazi manifesto in full but you can read the rest here: https://altright.com/2017/08/11/what-it-means-to-be-alt-right/ but hey, why not just check out the dude's website, where he calls out the hard-right for not being hardcore enough and calls for violent uprising: quote:Myriad indeed are the conservative networks. Legion in number, too, are the more hardcore right-wing publications. But none says what needs to be said. https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2017/08/15/holocaust-denier-augustus-invictus-announces-another-campaign-us-senate this is the poo poo you are defending
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Aug 21, 2017 16:30
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Ok punch those two. e. Hodgepodge posted:this is the poo poo you are defending unlimited shrimp has issued a correction as of 17:00 on Aug 21, 2017 |
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Aug 21, 2017 16:45
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Al! posted:given ur earlier post about how nazis and commies are exactly the same im not sure if ur using this to show what commies think, what nazis think or what u think. so im going to automatically assume the worst :horns.aiff: u nazi This thread is melting your brain because I havent posted about commies at all
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Aug 21, 2017 17:20
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the trump tutelage posted:Ok punch those two. We're gonna punch you ya little collaborationist Quisling binch
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Aug 21, 2017 17:33
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looking into it a bit more, of the remaining names on the poster there are some ho-hum conservatives and one guy (Navom) who agreed to attend before Charlottesville and ended up joining the counter-protest instead and one black hearted villian while gavin mcinnes has flirted with being a nazi, his true crime is laid bare by his wikipedia page: quote:McInnes has been called "the Godfather of the Hipster movement"[4] and "one of hipsterdom's primary architects".[5] i mean he's probably a not really a nazi but are we really going to be that sad if he gets punched?
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Aug 21, 2017 18:12
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why isn't anyone being fair to the soft fascists? 
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Aug 21, 2017 18:14
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WOW loving far left loons calling anyone they don't agree with nazis just because all those people are chanting jews will not replace us and blood and soil doesn't mean they're nazis
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Aug 21, 2017 18:23
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Watch where you keep swinging that Nazi stick, kid. You might accidentally hit some reasonable folks that just want to drown refugees.
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Aug 21, 2017 18:24
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Fascism may kill millions but it also helps a lot of people get to work on time so its impossible to tell if it's good or bad
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Aug 21, 2017 18:26
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Did that journalist who got punched turn out to be a nazi?
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Aug 21, 2017 18:42
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super sweet best pal posted:Did that journalist who got punched turn out to be a nazi? It turns out he deserved to get punched.
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Aug 21, 2017 18:53
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being punched by antifa transforms you into a nazi. its like that part in the 'rella' video when the black girl gets slapped only instead of coming back asian she comes back as Rudolf Höss
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Aug 21, 2017 19:59
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the trump tutelage posted:being punched by antifa transforms you into a nazi. its like that part in the 'rella' video when the black girl gets slapped only instead of coming back asian she comes back as Rudolf Höss Being banned by antifa would transform you into a good poster.
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Aug 21, 2017 20:02
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unlikely.
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Aug 21, 2017 20:07
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the trump tutelage posted:I'm extremely uncomfortable with how fast & loose people throw around the "nazi" label, especially now that we're normalizing violence against people labelled as nazis, but more broadly because i don't think playing the ad hominem game is healthy in the age of Trump when we should be more precise and more truth-oriented, and wary of feeding the narrative that all truth is subjective and reality is a la carte. that is not the same goddamn thing as defending that guy's views. youre gonna get punched. just accept it
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Aug 21, 2017 20:34
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zen death robot posted:looks like some ppl here are concerned they can't be white supremacists without getting lumped in with the Nazis lol its a fascinating mindset
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Aug 21, 2017 20:35
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Yinlock posted:the slippery slope arguments re: punching nazis has always been weird to me
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Aug 21, 2017 21:08
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Venom Snake posted:Fascism may kill millions but it also helps a lot of people get to work on time so its impossible to tell if it's good or bad
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Aug 21, 2017 21:09
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zen death robot posted:looks like some ppl here are concerned they can't be white supremacists without getting lumped in with the Nazis lol to be fair, some of them are also concerned they can't be misogynists without getting lumped in with the nazis
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Aug 21, 2017 21:34
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Seems everything I don't like is Bad, and only (((Nazi's))) do it!
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Aug 21, 2017 21:41
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the trump tutelage posted:k it should be trivially easy then to find direct quotes from the aforementioned speakers please go on Somebody who went to the demonstration and stayed after the hardliners started chanting their Aryan slogans ARE NOT VICTIMS OF CIRCUMSTANCES. They made conscious choices to associate with explicit Naziism. THey could have left when the fanatics made their declarations to fight the Jewish conspiracy.
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Aug 21, 2017 21:41
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Taste the meat, not the hate.
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Aug 21, 2017 21:55
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ate poo poo on live tv posted:Seems everything I don't like is Bad, and only (((Nazi's))) do it! When you think about it Nazis are the real Jews here
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Aug 21, 2017 22:00
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I didn't know that thing about McGuinness being the godfather of hipsters. I am now ok with stomping his head.
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Aug 21, 2017 22:09
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steinrokkan posted:Somebody who went to the demonstration and stayed after the hardliners started chanting their Aryan slogans ARE NOT VICTIMS OF CIRCUMSTANCES. They made conscious choices to associate with explicit Naziism. THey could have left when the fanatics made their declarations to fight the Jewish conspiracy. people were being labelled nazis for their thought crimes well before any of this poo poo kicked off in earnest (e.g. all the campus protests against people like Milo). "nazi" has been a generic slur that is used against anyone on the Right, or who is insufficiently woke, for a long goddamned time. but now punching nazis is good & encouraged, which means labelling someone a nazi is an incitement to violence against them. this is not an issue when actual nazis and white supremacists are the ones being labelled. but if you're going to argue for normalizing political violence in the limited scope of dispensing with capital-N nazis then you better be loving sure that "nazi" is more than just a weasel word, and that the person you're punching is actually a nazi.
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Aug 21, 2017 22:20
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People who carry water for Nazis, attend their events, speak with them, and signal boost them within the same grifting circuits, deserve to be punched just as much if not more so than capital-N actual factual Nazis. You're just going to have to make peace with the fact that being a shithead is going to have real world consequences, and all of these years of constantly pushing boundaries too see how far you could take free speech absolutism reached its breaking point when some gamer fascist ran over 20 people and killed one of them. Nobody is interested in these semantical games anymore.
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Aug 21, 2017 22:27
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its so fuckin easy not to be a nazi. its like one of the top 5 easiest things to do
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Aug 21, 2017 22:28
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the trump tutelage posted:but now punching nazis is good & encouraged punching nazis has always been good hth
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Aug 21, 2017 22:42
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Al! posted:its so fuckin easy not to be a nazi. its like one of the top 5 easiest things to do but the sjws made fun of my video games!!
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Aug 21, 2017 22:53
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To me the random maga chud is like a DNVP rear end in a top hat- the kind of guy who thinks they're not those filthy Nazis but will ride with them into power and support them until they get owned by said Nazis. Useful idiots.
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the trump tutelage posted:gonna go out on a limb and guess you have a different standard for the people who get swept up in police actions when they keep marching even after black bloc protesters start loving things up at G6 protests or whatever. lol, you are a nazi
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