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Josef bugman
Nov 17, 2011

Pictured: Poster prepares to celebrate Holy Communion (probablY)

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ate all the Oreos posted:

Ah yeah that's the one. My friend went down a rabbit hole of that guy's comics a while back and came to the conclusion that he definitely has a weird unacknowledged gay antifa fetish because there's a lot like this

How the gently caress can that be unacknowledged? How in the balls can you produce that art work and not think "y'know, maybe I have a thing for the black bloc".

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Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Josef bugman posted:

How the gently caress can that be unacknowledged? How in the balls can you produce that art work and not think "y'know, maybe I have a thing for the black bloc".

I'll ask my friend again because I might have gotten his interpretation wrong but yeah idk guy's got issues either way.

WrenP-Complete
Jul 27, 2012

I thought that art was pro-antifa sexiness, not against.

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

WrenP-Complete posted:

I thought that art was pro-antifa sexiness, not against.

That's why I'm saying I might have gotten it wrong :v:

Van Kraken
Feb 13, 2012

WrenP-Complete posted:

I thought that art was pro-antifa sexiness, not against.

It totally is pro-antifa.

Synthbuttrange posted:

guy does good work






noether
May 1, 2017

some kinda cutesy shoggoth

Van Kraken posted:

It totally is pro-antifa.

yo where can I get myself one of those antifa powersuits

eschaton
Mar 7, 2007

Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

pookel posted:

the Cato Institute (libertarian, though)

Libertarian venues are where the right wing floats trial balloons for additions to their memeplex before pushing to the more "mainstream" conservative venues.

For example, Reason experimented a bit with publishing Holocaust deniers and other purveyors of revisionist history, pretty much to see how anti-Semitism played with those with conservative leanings.

eschaton
Mar 7, 2007

Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

noether posted:

yo where can I get myself one of those antifa powersuits

Just file a request for one with your handler, comrade!

Just remember that Soros has to personally approve each user so there's a wait list.

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

Van Kraken posted:

It totally is pro-antifa.

This incredibly rules.

noether
May 1, 2017

some kinda cutesy shoggoth

eschaton posted:

Just file a request for one with your handler, comrade!

Just remember that Soros has to personally approve each user so there's a wait list.

psssh, friggin liberals are always gatekeeping everything. no way it'll come before prom at this rate... hopefully I can get one in time for the great 2018 insurrection

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord

Josef bugman posted:

How the gently caress can that be unacknowledged? How in the balls can you produce that art work and not think "y'know, maybe I have a thing for the black bloc".

Synthbuttrange posted:

guy does good work







It's not unacknowledged at all

E: i should finish reading the thread before posting

Kit Walker
Jul 10, 2010
"The Man Who Cannot Deadlift"


This is from a few pages ago but it's such a glaring example of missing the point that I had to bring it up again. The terrifying thing about Nazis is that they're just like everyone else. People, as a whole, tend to act the same way and use similar reasoning for everything they do. Yes, NATURALLY both sides would look similar from far enough away when it comes to things like emotional appeals and martyrdom. The difference lies in the fact that the end goal for Nazis is genocide and for antifa is protecting people who would be victims of said genocide. You can say poo poo like "both sides will use violence at times" and "both sides will try to convince you they're right" and "both sides will rally around perceived victims of the other side" and technically be right, but the end results of taking their ideas to the logical conclusion are vastly different and you're being intellectually bankrupt if you stop there and don't think further ahead

MikeCrotch
Nov 5, 2011

I AM UNJUSTIFIABLY PROUD OF MY SPAGHETTI BOLOGNESE RECIPE

YES, IT IS AN INCREDIBLY SIMPLE DISH

NO, IT IS NOT NORMAL TO USE A PEPPERAMI INSTEAD OF MINCED MEAT

YES, THERE IS TOO MUCH SALT IN MY RECIPE

NO, I WON'T STOP SHARING IT

more like BOLLOCKnese
Ben Garrison (of buff, manly Trump fame) also has a penchant for drawing Antifa with thick, luscious asses.

Dongsturm
Feb 17, 2012

Kit Walker posted:

This is from a few pages ago but it's such a glaring example of missing the point that I had to bring it up again. The terrifying thing about Nazis is that they're just like everyone else. People, as a whole, tend to act the same way and use similar reasoning for everything they do. Yes, NATURALLY both sides would look similar from far enough away when it comes to things like emotional appeals and martyrdom. The difference lies in the fact that the end goal for Nazis is genocide and for antifa is protecting people who would be victims of said genocide. You can say poo poo like "both sides will use violence at times" and "both sides will try to convince you they're right" and "both sides will rally around perceived victims of the other side" and technically be right, but the end results of taking their ideas to the logical conclusion are vastly different and you're being intellectually bankrupt if you stop there and don't think further ahead

We do think further ahead and it's not intellectually bankrupt to worry about teaming up with violent thugs, regardless of their politics. Core antifa aren't reluctant heroes forced to become vigilantes, they are people who enjoy fighting and want a socially acceptable excuse to fight.

I'm definitely on the side of the hippies who want to "win" without having to hit people with sticks.

Magnusth
Sep 25, 2014

Hello, Creature! Do You Despise Goat Hating Fascists? So Do We! Join Us at Paradise Lost!


Dongsturm posted:

We do think further ahead and it's not intellectually bankrupt to worry about teaming up with violent thugs, regardless of their politics. Core antifa aren't reluctant heroes forced to become vigilantes, they are people who enjoy fighting and want a socially acceptable excuse to fight.

I'm definitely on the side of the hippies who want to "win" without having to hit people with sticks.

Dongsturm posted:

We do think further ahead and it's not intellectually bankrupt to worry about teaming up with violent thugs, regardless of their politics. Core antifa aren't reluctant heroes forced to become vigilantes, they are people who enjoy fighting and want a socially acceptable excuse to fight.

I'm definitely on the side of the hippies who want to "win" without having to hit people with sticks.

Fun fact: I thought this was LoB

Gorn Myson
Aug 8, 2007






Dongsturm posted:

We do think further ahead and it's not intellectually bankrupt to worry about teaming up with violent thugs, regardless of their politics. Core antifa aren't reluctant heroes forced to become vigilantes, they are people who enjoy fighting and want a socially acceptable excuse to fight.

I'm definitely on the side of the hippies who want to "win" without having to hit people with sticks.
Yeah I do all my political activism on Twitter as well.

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord

Dongsturm posted:

We do think further ahead and it's not intellectually bankrupt to worry about teaming up with violent thugs, regardless of their politics. Core antifa aren't reluctant heroes forced to become vigilantes, they are people who enjoy fighting and want a socially acceptable excuse to fight.

I'm definitely on the side of the hippies who want to "win" without having to hit people with sticks.

Would you say that antifa are also urban

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

When you're talking about "antifa" like a bunch of urban thugs what you actually mean is just the black bloc, because antifa is a large organization with a lot of different groups. I'm fundamentally a dirty hippie pacifist who (at least I'd like to think) wouldn't even kill someone who was trying to kill me. I also think antifa is cool and good and not "people who want an excuse to fight" because they're organized and mostly just destroy property rather than beat people up.



Also the ones who beat people up don't espouse the views of national socialism after doing so which means they're automatically better, hth

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Wait you said we think further ahead... are you secretly Rev :crossarms:

divabot
Jun 17, 2015

A polite little mouse!
Dropbox folder "Roko's Basilisk": created.

Existential risk: increasing.

Charlton Heston: screaming.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWphqA1Slrw

pookel
Oct 27, 2011

Ultra Carp

eschaton posted:

Libertarian venues are where the right wing floats trial balloons for additions to their memeplex before pushing to the more "mainstream" conservative venues.
Sometimes their goals do align, but for example, the Cato Institute supports 100% free trade and open borders, which is strongly at odds with current right-wing thinking.

Neon Noodle
Nov 11, 2016

there's nothing wrong here in montana
Libertarian ideas are for ultra rich republicans who are beyond being worried about "having a job" or "being able to eat"

noether
May 1, 2017

some kinda cutesy shoggoth
people like to laugh at internet reactionaries that are apparently obsessed with hentai, but can we take a moment to appreciate the ones that are into really saccharine wholesome poo poo that is in direct opposition to their belief system? like I don’t see how you can be both a reacto and into mlp or dragon maid or loving yotsubato or anything like that without a shitload of cognitive dissonance. there’s no way to square “we live in a meritocracy and everyone who isn’t a straight white cis dude is clearly just a loving loser” with properties that go all-in on the power of friendship and how important mutual understanding and tolerance are and poo poo

edit: or undertale. good lord, undertale

noether has a new favorite as of 20:20 on Aug 22, 2017

Emrikol
Oct 1, 2015

noether posted:

I don’t see how you can be both a reacto and into mlp or dragon maid or loving yotsubato or anything like that without a shitload of cognitive dissonance. there’s no way to square “we live in a meritocracy and everyone who isn’t a straight white cis dude is clearly just a loving loser” with properties that go all-in on the power of friendship and how important mutual understanding and tolerance are and poo poo

They do it by willfully and aggressively misinterpreting them, or by writing ideologically correct fanfiction and forming a subfandom around that.

Lottery of Babylon
Apr 25, 2012

STRAIGHT TROPIN'

noether posted:

people like to laugh at internet reactionaries that are apparently obsessed with hentai, but can we take a moment to appreciate the ones that are into really saccharine wholesome poo poo that is in direct opposition to their belief system? like I don’t see how you can be both a reacto and into mlp or dragon maid or loving yotsubato or anything like that without a shitload of cognitive dissonance. there’s no way to square “we live in a meritocracy and everyone who isn’t a straight white cis dude is clearly just a loving loser” with properties that go all-in on the power of friendship and how important mutual understanding and tolerance are and poo poo

One of the best characters on the show is Luna, the Princess of the Night. She starts off as the villainous Nightmare Moon in the pilot episode, but after her defeat and redemption becomes a recurring heroic figure.

Her first appearance after the pilot has her trying to adjust to a world that is not only much different from the one she remembers (she was trapped in the moon for a thousand years; long story), but one in which she is basically the boogey man. Nightmare Night, the Equestrian equivalent of Halloween, is even based around placating her so she won’t gobble up young ponies.

Luna is understandably put off by this. She wants to be loved and admired, but the other ponies, especially goofball Pinkie Pie, constantly act afraid of her, and her odd, intimidating manners don’t help. She gets so offended that she threatens to eliminate the holiday.

But then, when Twilight (the show’s protagonist) finally catches Pinkie and tells her she doesn’t have to be afraid of Luna anymore, Pinkie cheerfully responds that she isn’t, really. It’s just being scared is part of the fun of Nightmare Night. Having the real-life Princess Luna there is like having Count Dracula show up to your Halloween party.

Then Twilight convinces Luna that, instead of trying to escape her spooky reputation, she should embrace it. As the reformed Princess of the Night, no one really knows how to take her. But as Nightmare Moon, the terrible mistress of darkness, she’s just an extra-special spooky attraction who makes the celebration that much cooler. Her willingness to play along makes her much more approachable.

We complain a lot about stereotypes, but I think most stereotypes are only harmful when applied indiscriminately to real-life people. But just in fun, or as part of a story, there’s nothing harmful about them. They’re part of our shared heritage and can serve as a link with different kinds of people. The incorrectly familiar is still familiar, but the unknown is simply unknown.

Embracing the horror-show version of herself instead of demanding to be accepted on her own terms gave Luna a connection with the other ponies, who then felt at least some familiarity with her and thus could relax in her presence, which allowed her to alter their preconceptions in a more organic and mutually respectful way.

That’s because whether someone’s ideas about you are accurate or even offensive is less important than whether they can actually talk to you, and you can’t talk to someone whose main topic of conversation is “Your ideas about me are wrong.”

Relevant Tangent
Nov 18, 2016

Tangentially Relevant

noether posted:

people like to laugh at internet reactionaries that are apparently obsessed with hentai, but can we take a moment to appreciate the ones that are into really saccharine wholesome poo poo that is in direct opposition to their belief system? like I don’t see how you can be both a reacto and into mlp or dragon maid or loving yotsubato or anything like that without a shitload of cognitive dissonance. there’s no way to square “we live in a meritocracy and everyone who isn’t a straight white cis dude is clearly just a loving loser” with properties that go all-in on the power of friendship and how important mutual understanding and tolerance are and poo poo

edit: or undertale. good lord, undertale

Being blunt about it, it's because they sexualize it and make it reactionary.

Terrible Opinions
Oct 18, 2013



noether posted:

people like to laugh at internet reactionaries that are apparently obsessed with hentai, but can we take a moment to appreciate the ones that are into really saccharine wholesome poo poo that is in direct opposition to their belief system? like I don’t see how you can be both a reacto and into mlp or dragon maid or loving yotsubato or anything like that without a shitload of cognitive dissonance. there’s no way to square “we live in a meritocracy and everyone who isn’t a straight white cis dude is clearly just a loving loser” with properties that go all-in on the power of friendship and how important mutual understanding and tolerance are and poo poo

edit: or undertale. good lord, undertale
The actual Nazis were obsessed with saccharine adventure stories about happy pastoral populations. MLP actually fits into that perfectly fine. To them those shows represent the world they want after they've killed off all the undesirables.

Annointed
Mar 2, 2013

noether posted:

people like to laugh at internet reactionaries that are apparently obsessed with hentai, but can we take a moment to appreciate the ones that are into really saccharine wholesome poo poo that is in direct opposition to their belief system? like I don’t see how you can be both a reacto and into mlp or dragon maid or loving yotsubato or anything like that without a shitload of cognitive dissonance. there’s no way to square “we live in a meritocracy and everyone who isn’t a straight white cis dude is clearly just a loving loser” with properties that go all-in on the power of friendship and how important mutual understanding and tolerance are and poo poo

edit: or undertale. good lord, undertale

They sexualize the hell out of it and get uber-obsessed with purity bs.

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow
Never forget that the straw that broke the camels back in regards to Mike Anissimov being kicked out of the dark enlightenment was him pointing out that valuing chastity and traditional family structures and hanging out with PUAs was contradictory.

noether
May 1, 2017

some kinda cutesy shoggoth

The Vosgian Beast posted:

Never forget that the straw that broke the camels back in regards to Mike Anissimov being kicked out of the dark enlightenment was him pointing out that valuing chastity and traditional family structures and hanging out with PUAs was contradictory.

silly anissinov, chastity and family values are something only femoids have to worry about

Terrible Opinions posted:

The actual Nazis were obsessed with saccharine adventure stories about happy pastoral populations. MLP actually fits into that perfectly fine. To them those shows represent the world they want after they've killed off all the undesirables.

I suppose so. it's just so ridiculous, though, y'know? I'd get it if they were really into the coral island or something that unironically paints adolescent white boys as the greatest thing, I guess. but then like, one of the plotlines I remember from my brief interest in mlp had an immigrant come to town and everyone's kinda freaked out and then 24 minutes later they realize she's cool and they made asses out of themselves. I guess the messaging must've been lost on them there.

Terrible Opinions
Oct 18, 2013



Anime fans can ignore any amount of subtext or lack of subtext because they only care about surface level visual identifiers.

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer

Dongsturm posted:

We do think further ahead and it's not intellectually bankrupt to worry about teaming up with violent thugs, regardless of their politics. Core antifa aren't reluctant heroes forced to become vigilantes, they are people who enjoy fighting and want a socially acceptable excuse to fight.

I'm definitely on the side of the hippies who want to "win" without having to hit people with sticks.

You don't "win" without hitting someone dumbass. How the gently caress do you think you can win when the enemy wants to genocide large portions of the population. We're talking about nazis. You god drat idiot.

Lottery of Babylon
Apr 25, 2012

STRAIGHT TROPIN'



The main reason Bronydom is seen as a ‘gender poison’ to men is because of the surface neoteny, but scratch the pastel exterior and you’ll find a show who’s main themes are social maturity, importance of tradition, family and bravery in keeping civilisation together. Because it is a girl-power show, though, most antagonists are defeated through cooperation and shows of solidarity. In real life, if the women of the Troy rode out to meet those trying to bring down the city walls, they’d be put to the sword. Hence Celestia keeps male royal guards around.. but anyway.

It’s important to remember that most of the foes in MLP are simply Other Ponies, who for whatever reason are prepared to destroy or damage the trust that hold society together for their own ends. This varies between low-level shysterism like Trixie to industrialists like Flim and Flam. Equestria Girls: Rainbow Rocks as well had villains that succeeded mainly through social manipulation and destroying the mutual trust by setting different social types against each other. The central message of the show is that Friendship and trust forged through experience and mutual understanding are paramount in having a livable, sane society. At a very basic level, the ability to trust to a high level those around you is integral to pony (white) society. Trademark show baddies exploit this trust and destroy society n the bargain. Merchant-capitalists Flim & Flam sold gimmicky, useless ‘tonics’, and Trixie paraded as a potential saviour, only to fail miserably when a real threat popped her ego balloon. When these hacks are exposed and you shine the light of truth on them, they scatter like roaches. Trixie & Co are summarily expelled from Ponyville.

In Equestria Girls: Rainbow Rocks, the villains actually succeed. Aside from a far-right conspiracy of Friendship Peddlers, the Dazzlings – An evil trio of malicious spirits – manage to hypnotize the whole of Canterlot High, setting every caste, class and faction within the school against each other using a Battle of the Bands. The crowd broils over into seething resentment, and the Dazzlings take the central spotlight and highest social status by Wow-ing everyone with displays of being the most aloof, the most self-absorbed, the most narcissistic and self important. After all, when all of society is atomised into competing factions, the most logical role model is to be the most sociopathic. Hence the section of Western/White Society that relies most on the aristocracy for its morality – The labouring working classes – Idolise the false gods of the Kardashians, and other vapid, pointless mouthbreathers, who hypnotize the many by being just so Cool, so above those stupid no-good rednecks, like a weeping Caitlyn Jenner receiving an award for battling transphobia-induced PTSD or Obama grieving for one of his many Sons. It’s worth noting that these entertainers pass for ponies, but they’re not really. They’re just devils and monsters passing themselves off as white – Sorry, Canterlot High students – when it suits them.

When there is no common goal and social trust is eroded to the most basic level, the ideological class can take control by peddling false and misleading narratives. Society continues a slow decline into total disintegration, and the hawkers are always there, selling false causes, feel-good balm and a conveniently weak and marginalised enemy to blame – Obviously, those sick and depraved right-wingers and their racism, and 'microaggressions’ round every corner that drive innocent black journalists to shoot down their coworkers.

A consensus on an obviously false ideology – 'We’re all equal!!’ paralyses society as individuals suppress anything that makes them conspicuously different. In 'The Cutie Map’ episodes, Starlight Glimmer takes on this ideological caste. Because ponies are suppressing the natural ways they adapt and help each other by playing to their strengths, in order to appear 'equal’; society begins to predictably spiral into total poverty. Remember kids: Choose equality as your special talent. More builders are men instead of women? Sexist. Not enough dindus in college? Racist. And so on.

Difference and equality are mutually exclusive, as equality means 'the same as.’ Starlight has the answer: If there are problems, the cause is inequality. The solution? More equality. We need more Eritean and Somalian refugees, just to prove how much equality we can have, and we’ll throw those friendship-peddlers in jail for a good measure as well!! We don’t have any cutie-marks of our own, there’s nothing special about us, so who cares if we’re displaced? Of course, bronies went off into a tizzy with this one. They mean Equality, but not our Equality right?! That’s not fair! Gay Marriage! And Stuff!!

Starlight Glimmer achieves her total control of Europe through the Televitz, sorry, Staff of Sameness; through which ponies have their memories of what makes them different to the other peoples of earth stripped from them, leaving them scrabbling miserably by, unable to cooperate, harmonise or build a functioning community with the similarly mezmerised ponies around them. The episode is resolved and modernity is destroyed when Starlight is shown to be just another shyster – somepony who hoodwinked and betrayed her folk in exchange for power. There are many whites like this.No doubt if Starlight was here today, she’d work at the BBC.

Starlight Glimmer steals Twilight’s Cutiemark and Magic with the staff.

A cutiemark? Wouldn’t you prefer an iPad?

But nationalism is not sentimental nonsense. Who we are is not sentimental nonsense, nor is it 'obsolete’ as some crusty old liberal hand-wringers would have you believe. We are biological beings, after all - each with unique gifts and personalities that cannot grow in our micromanaged world. Nationalism is belonging, and belonging is a matter of intense passion, and an abandonment of national identity is nothing but dereliction of duty and casting away any sense of self.

And this is where this article should end. But it doesn’t, because it’s not over. This isn’t a defanged, self-loathing “nationalism” which lays the blame for the dissolution of whites entirely on their own shoulders. When we point to liberalism and the myriad of ideologies used to surround and chip away white self esteem, we have to ask, who created these dangerous ideas? Cui Bono? Who’s waving the Staff of Sameness about, who uses theatrical props like dead Syrian children as conduits for malicious magic?

When Hitler came to power – Yes, Hitler, the ultimate baddie, the only permissable baddie, the evil upon which all other evils are rated – The psychological health of the German people improved immeasurably, because their sense of self was restored. The shame of losing a world war and the humiliation of Versailles was cast away as one man unapologetically stood for the health of his people as a whole, and the Germans chose to rally behind him because he stood for the self esteem of the German people, so they could live as truly suited them; instead of being caught in the nightmare of the dying Weimar republic. Remember at this time, Germans were lucky if they had spoons to eat out of dustbins with. Jewish businesses boomed and the sexual marketplace was a depraved free-for-all. The German people were utterly brought to their knees by economic and moral aggressions against them within their homeland, and WWI veterans were fighting running street battles with hardline communists, who wanted to run the country further into the ground. Posters read 'Hitler: Our Only Hope’ – Something that in our super-ironic culture today is probably considered laughable and disgusting, but at the time meant something real, and gave people hope. Hitlers ascension, before his flaws got the better of him and he decide to try and dominate Europe rather than unite it, was that he stood for the German people to be able to live according to who they really were (a lesson which sadly he did not apply to the Ukrainians). This was before as Netanyahu says, the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem told him to turn 6 million jews into lampshades.

The thing about whites is that because our society is based on high-trust, those who fall outside of the consensus on morality are expelled. But we live in a special time when our moral consensus, manufactured in the identity politics of the 60’s, is on the brink of total collaspe, and the hidden morality – the hidden Europe – is re-emerging. The Siren Song of the Dazzlings is over and the Starlight Glimmers are being held up as the cultural marxist traitors they really are. The tipping point where the virality of White Nationalist ideas swoops in and captures the middle ground from the extreme fringe is measured in years, if not months.

Consider, 'refugee’ centres in Germany are being burnt down at a rate of one every day. As I write this, some inventive soul is probably stuffing a rag into a jerry can and setting out to turn the accommodation for the non-white invaders into a smokey inferno. The idea that we can include everyone in our individualist enterprise is shown to be false, as other peoples might be fine as individuals, but also have strong group interests; and one group in particular has an especially strong group hatred for us. I say this because obviously for a number of years now I have had the moniker of 'nazi pony guy’ hanging around in the background, so if anyone is going to sail this ship it’s going to be me. There is a place for the new and inventive right, a truly European, energetic and youthful right wing that likes martial industrial music and kids cartoons – maybe even gender 'fluidity’, whatever that is. But the litmus test for who’s serious or not is not adherence to The One True Original and Authentic National Socialism™, but whether in having the courage to hold onto your identity, pride and sense of self, one can say – There are other causes for our decline, but as for the people pushing it hardest –

Yes, it’s the Jews.

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord

Lottery of Babylon posted:



The main reason Bronydom is seen as a ‘gender poison’ to men is because of the surface neoteny, but scratch the pastel exterior and you’ll find a show who’s main themes are social maturity, importance of tradition, family and bravery in keeping civilisation together. Because it is a girl-power show, though, most antagonists are defeated through cooperation and shows of solidarity. In real life, if the women of the Troy rode out to meet those trying to bring down the city walls, they’d be put to the sword. Hence Celestia keeps male royal guards around.. but anyway.

It’s important to remember that most of the foes in MLP are simply Other Ponies, who for whatever reason are prepared to destroy or damage the trust that hold society together for their own ends. This varies between low-level shysterism like Trixie to industrialists like Flim and Flam. Equestria Girls: Rainbow Rocks as well had villains that succeeded mainly through social manipulation and destroying the mutual trust by setting different social types against each other. The central message of the show is that Friendship and trust forged through experience and mutual understanding are paramount in having a livable, sane society. At a very basic level, the ability to trust to a high level those around you is integral to pony (white) society. Trademark show baddies exploit this trust and destroy society n the bargain. Merchant-capitalists Flim & Flam sold gimmicky, useless ‘tonics’, and Trixie paraded as a potential saviour, only to fail miserably when a real threat popped her ego balloon. When these hacks are exposed and you shine the light of truth on them, they scatter like roaches. Trixie & Co are summarily expelled from Ponyville.

In Equestria Girls: Rainbow Rocks, the villains actually succeed. Aside from a far-right conspiracy of Friendship Peddlers, the Dazzlings – An evil trio of malicious spirits – manage to hypnotize the whole of Canterlot High, setting every caste, class and faction within the school against each other using a Battle of the Bands. The crowd broils over into seething resentment, and the Dazzlings take the central spotlight and highest social status by Wow-ing everyone with displays of being the most aloof, the most self-absorbed, the most narcissistic and self important. After all, when all of society is atomised into competing factions, the most logical role model is to be the most sociopathic. Hence the section of Western/White Society that relies most on the aristocracy for its morality – The labouring working classes – Idolise the false gods of the Kardashians, and other vapid, pointless mouthbreathers, who hypnotize the many by being just so Cool, so above those stupid no-good rednecks, like a weeping Caitlyn Jenner receiving an award for battling transphobia-induced PTSD or Obama grieving for one of his many Sons. It’s worth noting that these entertainers pass for ponies, but they’re not really. They’re just devils and monsters passing themselves off as white – Sorry, Canterlot High students – when it suits them.

When there is no common goal and social trust is eroded to the most basic level, the ideological class can take control by peddling false and misleading narratives. Society continues a slow decline into total disintegration, and the hawkers are always there, selling false causes, feel-good balm and a conveniently weak and marginalised enemy to blame – Obviously, those sick and depraved right-wingers and their racism, and 'microaggressions’ round every corner that drive innocent black journalists to shoot down their coworkers.

A consensus on an obviously false ideology – 'We’re all equal!!’ paralyses society as individuals suppress anything that makes them conspicuously different. In 'The Cutie Map’ episodes, Starlight Glimmer takes on this ideological caste. Because ponies are suppressing the natural ways they adapt and help each other by playing to their strengths, in order to appear 'equal’; society begins to predictably spiral into total poverty. Remember kids: Choose equality as your special talent. More builders are men instead of women? Sexist. Not enough dindus in college? Racist. And so on.

Difference and equality are mutually exclusive, as equality means 'the same as.’ Starlight has the answer: If there are problems, the cause is inequality. The solution? More equality. We need more Eritean and Somalian refugees, just to prove how much equality we can have, and we’ll throw those friendship-peddlers in jail for a good measure as well!! We don’t have any cutie-marks of our own, there’s nothing special about us, so who cares if we’re displaced? Of course, bronies went off into a tizzy with this one. They mean Equality, but not our Equality right?! That’s not fair! Gay Marriage! And Stuff!!

Starlight Glimmer achieves her total control of Europe through the Televitz, sorry, Staff of Sameness; through which ponies have their memories of what makes them different to the other peoples of earth stripped from them, leaving them scrabbling miserably by, unable to cooperate, harmonise or build a functioning community with the similarly mezmerised ponies around them. The episode is resolved and modernity is destroyed when Starlight is shown to be just another shyster – somepony who hoodwinked and betrayed her folk in exchange for power. There are many whites like this.No doubt if Starlight was here today, she’d work at the BBC.

Starlight Glimmer steals Twilight’s Cutiemark and Magic with the staff.

A cutiemark? Wouldn’t you prefer an iPad?

But nationalism is not sentimental nonsense. Who we are is not sentimental nonsense, nor is it 'obsolete’ as some crusty old liberal hand-wringers would have you believe. We are biological beings, after all - each with unique gifts and personalities that cannot grow in our micromanaged world. Nationalism is belonging, and belonging is a matter of intense passion, and an abandonment of national identity is nothing but dereliction of duty and casting away any sense of self.

And this is where this article should end. But it doesn’t, because it’s not over. This isn’t a defanged, self-loathing “nationalism” which lays the blame for the dissolution of whites entirely on their own shoulders. When we point to liberalism and the myriad of ideologies used to surround and chip away white self esteem, we have to ask, who created these dangerous ideas? Cui Bono? Who’s waving the Staff of Sameness about, who uses theatrical props like dead Syrian children as conduits for malicious magic?

When Hitler came to power – Yes, Hitler, the ultimate baddie, the only permissable baddie, the evil upon which all other evils are rated – The psychological health of the German people improved immeasurably, because their sense of self was restored. The shame of losing a world war and the humiliation of Versailles was cast away as one man unapologetically stood for the health of his people as a whole, and the Germans chose to rally behind him because he stood for the self esteem of the German people, so they could live as truly suited them; instead of being caught in the nightmare of the dying Weimar republic. Remember at this time, Germans were lucky if they had spoons to eat out of dustbins with. Jewish businesses boomed and the sexual marketplace was a depraved free-for-all. The German people were utterly brought to their knees by economic and moral aggressions against them within their homeland, and WWI veterans were fighting running street battles with hardline communists, who wanted to run the country further into the ground. Posters read 'Hitler: Our Only Hope’ – Something that in our super-ironic culture today is probably considered laughable and disgusting, but at the time meant something real, and gave people hope. Hitlers ascension, before his flaws got the better of him and he decide to try and dominate Europe rather than unite it, was that he stood for the German people to be able to live according to who they really were (a lesson which sadly he did not apply to the Ukrainians). This was before as Netanyahu says, the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem told him to turn 6 million jews into lampshades.

The thing about whites is that because our society is based on high-trust, those who fall outside of the consensus on morality are expelled. But we live in a special time when our moral consensus, manufactured in the identity politics of the 60’s, is on the brink of total collaspe, and the hidden morality – the hidden Europe – is re-emerging. The Siren Song of the Dazzlings is over and the Starlight Glimmers are being held up as the cultural marxist traitors they really are. The tipping point where the virality of White Nationalist ideas swoops in and captures the middle ground from the extreme fringe is measured in years, if not months.

Consider, 'refugee’ centres in Germany are being burnt down at a rate of one every day. As I write this, some inventive soul is probably stuffing a rag into a jerry can and setting out to turn the accommodation for the non-white invaders into a smokey inferno. The idea that we can include everyone in our individualist enterprise is shown to be false, as other peoples might be fine as individuals, but also have strong group interests; and one group in particular has an especially strong group hatred for us. I say this because obviously for a number of years now I have had the moniker of 'nazi pony guy’ hanging around in the background, so if anyone is going to sail this ship it’s going to be me. There is a place for the new and inventive right, a truly European, energetic and youthful right wing that likes martial industrial music and kids cartoons – maybe even gender 'fluidity’, whatever that is. But the litmus test for who’s serious or not is not adherence to The One True Original and Authentic National Socialism™, but whether in having the courage to hold onto your identity, pride and sense of self, one can say – There are other causes for our decline, but as for the people pushing it hardest –

Yes, it’s the Jews.

Stop that

noether
May 1, 2017

some kinda cutesy shoggoth

I like that of all the characters they could've used to convey that message, they picked the blatantly queer-coded one.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012
This is where someone brings up Hitler's strangely erotic Snow White and the Seven Dwarves fanart.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Neon Noodle posted:

Libertarian ideas are for ultra rich republicans who are beyond being worried about "having a job" or "being able to eat"

To an extent, but there's an argument that ultra-rich republicans still want a stronger state (for their own ends) and that libertarianism is more for ambitious / frustrated middle class.

China Mieville posted:

As a utopia, the Atlantis Project is pitiful. Beyond the single one-trick fact of its watery location, it is tragically non-ambitious, crippled with class anxiety, nostalgic not for mythic glory but for the anonymous sanctimony of an invented 1950s. This is no ruling class vision: it is the plaintive daydream of a petty bourgeoisie, whose sulky solution to perceived social problems is to run away–set sail into a tax-free sunset.

None of this is surprising. Libertarianism is not a ruling-class theory. It may be indulged, certainly, for the useful ideas it can throw up, and its prophets have at times influenced dominant ideologies–witness the cack-handed depredations of the “Chicago Boys” in Chile after Allende’s bloody overthrow. But untempered by the realpolitik of Reaganism and Thatcherism, the anti-statism of “pure” libertarianism is worse than useless to the ruling class.

Big capital will support tax-lowering measures, of course, but it does not need to piss and moan about taxes with the tedious relentlessness of the libertarian. Big capital, with its ranks of accountant-Houdinis, just gets on with not paying it. And why hate a state that pays so well? Big capital is big, after all, not only because of the generous contracts its state obligingly hands it, but because of the gun-ships with which its state opens up markets for it.

Goon Danton
May 24, 2012

Don't forget to show my shitposts to the people. They're well worth seeing.

Man, you can't quote that without the next paragraph. I'd be hard-pressed to find a better summary of libertarianism.

quote:

Libertarianism, by contrast, is a theory of those who find it hard to avoid their taxes, who are too small, incompetent or insufficiently connected to win Iraq-reconstruction contracts, or otherwise chow at the state trough. In its maundering about a mythical ideal-type capitalism, libertarianism betrays its fear of actually existing capitalism, at which it cannot quite succeed. It is a philosophy of capitalist inadequacy.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."
Thanks, I didn't notice I'd missed that.

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naptalan
Feb 18, 2009
Oh gosh, I went and looked up Aurini after he was mentioned on the last page. What a weirdo :psyduck:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seAl1fm0iDE

quote:

You know, every time I talk to John Steele he says, 'Wait, I didn't see that tweet. I never see any of your tweets.' Yes, that's because I'm being throttled over on Twitter. I strongly suspect something similar is happening on Youtube, where my videos just aren't spreading quite as fast as maybe they ought to be. Might have something to do with pissing off somebody that, uh, gets to go to the UN and dictate, you know, world policy...
*takes drag from cigarette*
Or who knows? I'm sure there's a lot of people just like me that are smart enough to be dangerous but not big enough to make a big stink whenever they get censored.

This video has 2K views on Youtube and 60 on Vidme. I guess Aurini's enemies have some pull with the Vidme founders too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33orMLcDAJU
The whole thing is just nuts. Some key points in the video:
- Rather than talking about actual abortion or the personhood of a fetus (which apparently no one is talking about), he proposes a hypothetical scenario where infant children are being euthanised.. what would you do? Then another situation where children are brutally sacrificed. What would you do???? This guy is like the world's worst DM.
- A rambling interlude on revolutions and the correct way to take down a tyrannical government. Aurini has "trained as a historian" (failed to finish a Bachelor's degree in history) so I gather he does this in a lot of his videos.
- Back to abortions! "You see, most women who get abortions do not realize that it's sinful."
- Abortions are the same as airbags and antilock brakes in that having them lets you act more recklessly than you otherwise would. I don't think this is remotely true; as far as I know car crashes and fatalities have generally declined as safety features become more commonplace. I doubt that even in the back of anyone's mind is "I'll have a couple more drinks before hitting the road, the airbags will save me if I hit something"
- He acknowledges that birth control pills are fundamentally the same as abortion but has trouble getting morally outraged over them. However! The real problem with birth control is the idea of sex without consequences.
- Birth control pills are actually the same as drinking sugar-free soda. You think you're avoiding the harmful consequence (getting pregnant/getting fat), but actually you are increasing your risk of harm (by slutting around/craving carbs)
- "If you break yourself, you are broken for life. We need to reaffirm this sense of responsibility" and also teach women about the joys of motherhood or something, I kind of tuned out.

I didn't realise at the start that he was actually Catholic. I wonder how he reconciles his beliefs in the sinfulness of casual sex and his worship of Roosh V.

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