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It's amazing the amount of ignorance people have about how history is told. When you take a history class or do any kind of significant historical research, statues usually don't play a major part in any of that poo poo. It's not "erasing history". All of the history that is supposedly being erased is still in the same loving place it has always been: in historical books, journals, and in archives.
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Aug 17, 2017 15:40
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I live by the park that one of the Baltimore statues was in, and work by one of the others. I can say with 98% confidence that most people who live around those things were happy to see them go; most of the local objection I've seen is from idiots from the horribly white bread surrounding suburbs, who're probably too afraid of the city to step foot in either park, but still seem to think they should have a say in what goes on here. Proud of the mayor for the way she handled it, and I hope something goes up in their place that honors people who, y'know, actually have something to do with the city.
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Aug 17, 2017 16:00
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blackguy32 posted:It's amazing the amount of ignorance people have about how history is told. When you take a history class or do any kind of significant historical research, statues usually don't play a major part in any of that poo poo. It's not "erasing history". All of the history that is supposedly being erased is still in the same loving place it has always been: in historical books, journals, and in archives. The popular response making the rounds right now is a very sarcastic "I was going to tell you about how awful a person Hitler was, but unfortunately we don't have any statues of him to go look at."
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Aug 17, 2017 16:02
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biracial bear for uncut posted:The popular response making the rounds right now is a very sarcastic "I was going to tell you about how awful a person Hitler was, but unfortunately we don't have any statues of him to go look at." Also referring to the Confederate statues and flags as "participation trophies" works really well.
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Aug 17, 2017 16:03
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In the 1930s and 1940s some people went around the South lugging some really big recording equipment and interviewed a bunch of slaves. Those recordings somehow surfaced in 1999 and there was a television broadcast segment about them here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYBnhcJfaiQ
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Aug 17, 2017 23:34
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HotCanadianChick posted:While VA is having nazifest 2017, the west coast be chillin out at: Looks like the entire black population of Oregon is attending the event
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Aug 18, 2017 02:22
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I'm sure everyone must know this by now, but the major alt-right driving force in the W.H. is gone.
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Aug 18, 2017 19:01
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Samovar posted:I'm sure everyone must know this by now, but the major alt-right driving force in the W.H. is gone. Yeah, but it's not enough.
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Aug 18, 2017 19:03
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Samovar posted:I'm sure everyone must know this by now, but the major alt-right driving force in the W.H. is gone. something I'm hearing though is that he was the main anti-interventionist element so a whole other trouble might be afoot
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Aug 18, 2017 21:56
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Ed: wrong thread
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Aug 19, 2017 04:38
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I was browsing through poo poo reddit says earlier and I was really depressed to see stuff like this was still commonplace.
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Aug 20, 2017 03:26
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Hi lurker here, just popping in to say I just 'got' the thread title. Dammit. Anyway peace.
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Aug 20, 2017 05:00
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Think it’s hard for the white working class in rural America? Try being a person of color.quote:Since Trump’s election, there has been ample coverage of white people—the rise of white nationalism, the white working class that makes up Trump’s core constituency, the 53 percent of white women who voted him into office. Much less has been written about the people of color who live and work amid the rising tide of white nationalism in rural red states.
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Aug 20, 2017 16:12
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Samovar posted:I'm sure everyone must know this by now, but the major alt-right driving force in the W.H. is gone. The GOP is not gone.
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Aug 21, 2017 14:08
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Samovar posted:I'm sure everyone must know this by now, but the major alt-right driving force in the W.H. is gone. What are you on about? Donald Trump is still in office.
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Aug 22, 2017 07:26
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biracial bear for uncut posted:What are you on about? Donald Trump is still in office. This is not on-topic for this thread, because no one in the Trump admin is black except for Omarosa and Bullet Farmer, but he's right. Trump is a shitlord and a Republican but "alt-right" is something specific and he's not it. He parrots everything they say, but he does that with anyone. It is going to be interesting to see what changes now that Bannon's gone.
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Aug 22, 2017 22:34
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:This is not on-topic for this thread, because no one in the Trump admin is black except for Omarosa and Bullet Farmer, but he's right. Trump is a shitlord and a Republican but "alt-right" is something specific and he's not it. He parrots everything they say, but he does that with anyone. It is going to be interesting to see what changes now that Bannon's gone. Agreed!
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Aug 22, 2017 22:36
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Actress/singer Kat Graham has made a new PSA spot for BLM: http://www.essence.com/celebrity/kat-graham-black-lives-matter-video Tiny Brontosaurus posted:This is not on-topic for this thread, because no one in the Trump admin is black except for Omarosa and Bullet Farmer, but he's right. Trump is a shitlord and a Republican but "alt-right" is something specific and he's not it. He parrots everything they say, but he does that with anyone. It is going to be interesting to see what changes now that Bannon's gone. You're the last person, aside from Chappelle, I would expect to ask that we give that blatantly racist piece of garbage 'a chance'. Bannon wasn't the one who just got on stage and defended literal Nazis yet again today at the AZ rally. Also, welcome back TB Militant Lesbian fucked around with this message at 08:15 on Aug 23, 2017 |
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Aug 23, 2017 08:09
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HotCanadianChick posted:Actress/singer Kat Graham has made a new PSA spot for BLM: I don't believe it's about giving him a chance. It's about seeing what strange new manners his racism manifests in now that he's working with a different kind of racist.
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Aug 23, 2017 08:49
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:This is not on-topic for this thread, because no one in the Trump admin is black except for Omarosa and Bullet Farmer, but he's right. Trump is a shitlord and a Republican but "alt-right" is something specific and he's not it. He parrots everything they say, but he does that with anyone. It is going to be interesting to see what changes now that Bannon's gone. I'm pretty much at the point where "confederate/lost cause"/Nazi/"Alt-Right" falls under the same umbrella. If someone stands with or otherwise supports Nazis that is pretty much a one way ticket to "gently caress that person forever". What is really hosed up is it took literal Nazi rallies to prompt the removal of Confederate monuments to slavery.
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Aug 23, 2017 11:35
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HotCanadianChick posted:Actress/singer Kat Graham has made a new PSA spot for BLM: That's not even remotely what I was saying, what the gently caress? Like literally what the gently caress. Nice welcome, you unbelievable rear end in a top hat. It's been fun watching your psycho rear end bully everyone in TGRS like the real-world version of what every whiteboi goon pretends I am. biracial bear for uncut posted:I'm pretty much at the point where "confederate/lost cause"/Nazi/"Alt-Right" falls under the same umbrella. I dread wading back into this since HotCanadianChick is going to call me a Bannon defender again (you loving idiot), but gently caress this, terminology matters and "both things bad so both things same" is dangerously lazy. There is more than one type of right-winger in the US. They are all bad, but there are differences between the factions and ignoring them to make some point about how you hate right-wingers the mostest is more than stupid, it's dangerous. Just because someone isn't technically alt-right doesn't mean I like them, you loving morons. Darth Walrus posted:I don't believe it's about giving him a chance. It's about seeing what strange new manners his racism manifests in now that he's working with a different kind of racist. This guy gets it. Tiny Brontosaurus fucked around with this message at 16:16 on Aug 23, 2017 |
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Aug 23, 2017 16:08
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biracial bear for uncut posted:I'm pretty much at the point where "confederate/lost cause"/Nazi/"Alt-Right" falls under the same umbrella. Words have meaning, some very specific meaning. If Bernie Bros can bitch about not wanting to be called the "Alt-Left" because Donald Trump lumped everyone together, then we can be just as detailed about our terminology too.
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Aug 23, 2017 17:35
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The problem is that alt right is a term they came up with to distance themselves from racist groups with more incendiary names. It is meant as a softener for their racism.
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Aug 23, 2017 17:56
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Fluffdaddy posted:The problem is that alt right is a term they came up with to distance themselves from racist groups with more incendiary names. It is meant as a softener for their racism. Arghhhhh... 1. This is a thread about black people and black issues. The alt-right are categorically not black, so why the gently caress are we talking about them in here. 2. No one is saying the alt-right aren't humongous racist pieces of poo poo. But seriously, words mean things. Just because a person is bad, and a group of people are bad, doesn't mean that bad person is a member of that bad group. If I told you Hitler was not a member of the Khmer Rouge that does not mean I think Hitler's a great guy. 3. Biracial Bear for Uncut does this "BAD THING ALL SAME THING!!!@!!@1" poo poo literally every chance he gets, because for some broke-brained reason he thinks that makes him look smart, and HotCanadianChick was trying to score points on me. What's your excuse, Fluffdaddy? I normally think of you as better than this.
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Aug 23, 2017 18:47
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I wasn't really posting in your general direction. It's not always about you.
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Aug 23, 2017 19:01
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Fluffdaddy posted:I wasn't really posting in your general direction. It's not always about you. No it's about my deep love for our lord and savior, President-for-Life Donald John Trump.
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Aug 23, 2017 19:14
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Fluffdaddy posted:The problem is that alt right is a term they came up with to distance themselves from racist groups with more incendiary names. It is meant as a softener for their racism. I think it is a bit more complex than that. Alt-right for the most part does mean racist shitheads. But they are racist poo poo-heads that oppose quite a few things that other Republicans are all for such as trade deals and foreign intervention. The poo poo Trump campaigned on in terms of a lot of that stuff is being reneged on while he maintains his racist shitstain ways. It's why quite a few people on the left were pushing for Trump, because they felt Hillary was more hawkish than Trump was on foreign affairs. Anyways, back to Black people.
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Aug 23, 2017 19:50
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:That's not even remotely what I was saying, what the gently caress? Like literally what the gently caress. Nice welcome, you unbelievable rear end in a top hat. It's been fun watching your psycho rear end bully everyone in TGRS like the real-world version of what every whiteboi goon pretends I am.  *pauses Return of The Mack and puts the bottle of Hendricks back on the shelf, then puts some foil back over the greens* Well... I guess there's not gonna be no welcome back cookout after all, if you gonna decide you need to get all up in your feelin's and poo poo. Y'all can still have the dino av I drew for you while you was gone as a welcome back present tho  And the welcome back was, in fact sincere, whether you like it or not.
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Aug 24, 2017 05:54
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HotCanadianChick posted:
Dude you accused me of being a Trump supporter. I do love the dino av, sincerely. I don't want us to be enemies, but imagine how you'd feel if someone accused you of that.
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Aug 24, 2017 06:42
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Panfilo posted:What I like about Tiny Brontosaurus is how many people she has gotten to come around on their attitudes about race. On the Internet, there's very little incentive to change your opinion and when you combine it with white privilege there's even less. So I believe every person that chooses not to double down with her to be trying to make a positive effort. Confirming this--I've been learning a lot about myself and about other people's experiences thanks to her calling out disrespectful and hateful behaviour. Brainbread posted:It's a bit of an old article, and I would link the research paper but since I'm no longer a student I don't have access to all those lovely scholarly libraries. Sci-hub is a great resource if you don't have academic subscriptions to journals (or a good local library, as was already mentioned). Just paste the DOI number in their search box and it'll probably turn up, keyword/author search is broken though. "The Race of a Criminal Record: How Incarceration Colors Racial Perceptions" is DOI: 10.1525/sp.2010.57.1.92 There's a cool woman behind Sci-hub and it's a great story on its own: quote:On September 5th, 2011, Alexandra Elbakyan, a researcher from Kazakhstan, created Sci-Hub, a website that bypasses journal paywalls, illegally providing access to nearly every scientific paper ever published immediately to anyone who wants it. The website works in two stages, firstly by attempting to download a copy from the LibGen database of pirated content, which opened its doors to academic papers in 2012 and now contains over 48 million scientific papers. The ingenious part of the system is that if LibGen does not already have a copy of the paper, Sci-hub bypasses the journal paywall in real time by using access keys donated by academics lucky enough to study at institutions with an adequate range of subscriptions. This allows Sci-Hub to route the user straight to the paper through publishers such as JSTOR, Springer, Sage, and Elsevier. After delivering the paper to the user within seconds, Sci-Hub donates a copy of the paper to LibGen for good measure, where it will be stored forever, accessible by everyone and anyone.
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Aug 24, 2017 09:22
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:Dude you accused me of being a Trump supporter. I didn't think you were a Trump supporter, but it felt uncomfortably like you were implying things might get better now that wannabe ringwraith Bannon is out, and I just couldn't stay silent on that. Like I said before, you're one of my fav posters 'cause you ain't afraid to speak out on what you feel is right, and you stay pushing back against fuckshit, and that's an admirable trait to me (even if I do sometimes catch the wrath). I think errybody done left for the club, but there's still some fried catfish and a couple bottles of Dos Equis if you still down. 
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Aug 24, 2017 16:57
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HotCanadianChick posted:I didn't think you were a Trump supporter, but it felt uncomfortably like you were implying things might get better now that wannabe ringwraith Bannon is out, and I just couldn't stay silent on that. I am extremely uncomfortable with this fake urban speak you keep doing.
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Aug 24, 2017 18:41
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HotCanadianChick posted:I didn't think you were a Trump supporter, but it felt uncomfortably like you were implying things might get better now that wannabe ringwraith Bannon is out, and I just couldn't stay silent on that. I definitely wasn't, it was more of a "let's see where this ride goes next!" And confession time: I never drink Dos Equis bc I'm never sure how to pronounce it and I don't want the bartender to laugh at me 
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Aug 24, 2017 19:23
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Wtf is going on here. HCC, you don't need to try and code switch to convince us you're "down" or what the gently caress ever. Try this instead: Koalas March posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLZ0_SE1pKE
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Aug 24, 2017 19:28
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I'm so glad they noticed the first thing I noticed when I saw that video Just how many goddamn black passerby's there were. like Every person who was walking around was black and it was hilarious.
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Aug 24, 2017 19:58
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:And confession time: I never drink Dos Equis bc I'm never sure how to pronounce it and I don't want the bartender to laugh at me The nice thing about Spanish is the pronunciation rarely changes unlike English. So it's simply "Dose Eh-keys" When your in a hurry/drunk you can mash it all together in a quick "doe-seh-keys" and still be fine.
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highme posted:The nice thing about Spanish is the pronunciation rarely changes unlike English. So it's simply "Dose Eh-keys" When your in a hurry/drunk you can mash it all together in a quick "doe-seh-keys" and still be fine.  Ok now everyone help me brainstorm a tagline for my new av dino: All I can think of is "Here comes a special boy" but that's not really on-brand for me.
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Aug 24, 2017 20:19
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:All I can think of is "Here comes a special boy" but that's not really on-brand for me. quote:No, no, Donald, Donald, Donald... let him talk. There's no reason... I want to hear every viewpoint, I really do. with this as a clickthrough link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-w-58hQ9dLk slightly more on topic: https://twitter.com/ppppolls/status/900365449937903617 
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:Biracial Bear for Uncut does this "BAD THING ALL SAME THING!!!@!!@1" poo poo literally every chance he gets Source your quotes, because that is not even close to what I do, literally. "Everything is bad" is not the same thing.
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