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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Nolan batman is "less fascist" in the sense that he's ur-fascist. He got more and more fascist as the series went on. Presumably this is a parable about capitalist liberal democracy.
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Agag posted:He got more and more fascist as the series went on. Presumably this is a parable about capitalist liberal democracy. 
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Agag posted:He got more and more fascist as the series went on. Presumably this is a parable about capitalist liberal democracy. The most terrifying thing imaginable is that the rich and the politicians could be subjected to the same arbitrary standards of justice they used to repress the poor.
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Ive said it before but tony stark in the MCU is, metatextually, one of the most evil characters in modern fiction and his popularity is probably at least partially culpable for easing america into the idea of being ruled by a wacky authoritarian millionaire
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:The most terrifying thing imaginable is that the rich and the politicians could be subjected to the same arbitrary standards of justice they used to repress the poor. I refuse to acknowledge any social problems that can't be solved by punching and/or a remote controlled helicopter.
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Babysitter Super Sleuth posted:Ive said it before but tony stark in the MCU is, metatextually, one of the most evil characters in modern fiction and his popularity is probably at least partially culpable for easing america into the idea of being ruled by a wacky authoritarian millionaire moron centrists were calling for a michael bloomberg or elon musk or mark zuckerberg or warren buffet or steve jobs to rule the country long before trump became president
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Agag posted:I refuse to acknowledge any social problems that can't be solved by punching and/or a remote controlled helicopter. The only way to resolve a noble lie that blew up in your face and took down bourgeois society in its death throes, is to do another lie. Justice is what happens when the billionaire gets to enjoy his wealth in anonymity with a hot new girlfriend.
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What would a proper leftist superhero even look like? Is that basically Anarky but you don't let poo poo AnCaps write him?
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FaustianQ posted:What would a proper leftist superhero even look like? Is that basically Anarky but you don't let poo poo AnCaps write him? http://chinamieville.net/post/4406165249/rejected-pitch
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Lawman 0 posted:Comic books are for children They used to be. Now they're for people who were children 20 years ago.
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FaustianQ posted:What would a proper leftist superhero even look like? Is that basically Anarky but you don't let poo poo AnCaps write him? The only true leftist hero is the politically educated proletariat.
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FaustianQ posted:What would a proper leftist superhero even look like? Is that basically Anarky but you don't let poo poo AnCaps write him? Green Arrow comes pretty close, but really he's just a rich lib who uses his resources to champion boutique causes. I don't read any of the comics, but there's an episode of Justice League or JLU where The Flash is shown to get to know his rogues gallery, understand their problems, and guide them towards recovery with appropriate therapy. I guess depending on how you want to read it, The X-Men are Antifa if they actually had their own Soros.
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FaustianQ posted:What would a proper leftist superhero even look like? Is that basically Anarky but you don't let poo poo AnCaps write him? the original Superman also Red Son Superman, but the ending was poo poo
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leftist superhero is basically an oxymoron, but the best answer is probably superman's retarded bizarro clone
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FaustianQ posted:What would a proper leftist superhero even look like? Is that basically Anarky but you don't let poo poo AnCaps write him? Victor Von Doom Hodgepodge is right, the actual answer is probably early Superman
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FaustianQ posted:What would a proper leftist superhero even look like? Is that basically Anarky but you don't let poo poo AnCaps write him? OG Superman was basically the fury of the working poor manifest as a jumping punchman who beat the poo poo out of the mob and rich people
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Babysitter Super Sleuth posted:OG Superman was basically the fury of the working poor manifest as a jumping punchman who beat the poo poo out of the mob and rich people Yeah OG Superman was "imagine if there was someone powerful who helped out us for a change," a plea for responsible power.
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The X-Men have their own commune where they constantly train cadres of comrades to help protect humanity from the exterminationist agendas of men and mutant alike.
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if mutants are supposed to be an allegory for gay people then why is the name so gendered
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:The X-Men have their own commune where they constantly train cadres of comrades to help protect humanity from the exterminationist agendas of men and mutant alike. the thing about the x-men is that charles is liberalism personified, a dude who hopes that if mutants put forward a respectable face and don't rock the boat they will be accepted magneto is a revolutionary, but the series' attitude towards that can be summed up with his organization's name, the brotherhood of evil mutants
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if x-men are supposed to be a metaphor for minorities why are all of their plots about ancient space empires and time travel
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planetary is pretty socialist, as is the original run of the authority
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Hodgepodge posted:the thing about the x-men is that charles is liberalism personified, a dude who hopes that if mutants put forward a respectable face and don't rock the boat they will be accepted 
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Hodgepodge posted:the thing about the x-men is that charles is liberalism personified, a dude who hopes that if mutants put forward a respectable face and don't rock the boat they will be accepted Magneto seems like a hamfisted critique of Zionism at best and garbage horseshoe theory at worst. All this discussion really seem to point to is that superheros could easily be rewritten to be leftist ideologues if you could purge the liberal capitalism out of it.
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Hodgepodge posted:his organization's name, the brotherhood of evil mutants DNC algorithms and focus groups strike again.
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FaustianQ posted:All this discussion really seem to point to is that superheros could easily be rewritten to be leftist ideologues if you could purge the liberal capitalism out of it. batman, iron man and all the other rich vigilantes have no place but the guillotine
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Crane Fist posted:about what Basically everything, starting from the point where he ditched Jean Grey for Emma
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FaustianQ posted:What would a proper leftist superhero even look like? Is that basically Anarky but you don't let poo poo AnCaps write him?  Probably the best you'll do right now.
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Dear god pleas shut up about superheroes
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If you guys are looking for a leftist superhero then I've got you covered.
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Babysitter Super Sleuth posted:batman, iron man and all the other rich vigilantes have no place but the guillotine You could theoretically write a "Bruce Wayne" who comes to learn of the immortal science of Marxism and uses his vast funds and penchant for punching things to enable societal change. He wouldn't be Batman though.
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FaustianQ posted:You could theoretically write a "Bruce Wayne" who comes to learn of the immortal science of Marxism and uses his vast funds and penchant for punching things to enable societal change. He wouldn't be Batman though. liberals are a cowardly, superstitious lot... i will become a revolutionary vanguard
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Shear Modulus posted:moron centrists were calling for a michael bloomberg or elon musk or mark zuckerberg or warren buffet or steve jobs to rule the country long before trump became president Trump, is arguably a dark mirror of the centrists own infantile fantasies. A businessman who promises to raise up America, make it like it was. Who looks for his cabinet from business and people in areas that have been ignored for too long. He also won't be afraid to tell people how he see's it, and tries to forge America a new place diplomatically. All of these things were ideas centrist had in their ideal candidate. Now Trump showed how idiotic their delusions really were. Crowsbeak has issued a correction as of 02:13 on Aug 23, 2017 |
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Hodgepodge posted:liberals are a cowardly, superstitious lot... i will become a revolutionary vanguard Lenin but with a zipgun.
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Hodgepodge posted:liberals are a cowardly, superstitious lot... i will become a revolutionary vanguard what is the most communist but also frightening animal? naked mole rat maybe?
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Grand Prize Winner posted:what is the most communist but also frightening animal? naked mole rat maybe? Ants. Bees. Definitely bees.
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those spiders that form colonies
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termites
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