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iirc starcraft skill is 90% how good you are at fighting the ui and maybe 10% how good you are at doing rock-paper-scissors against the other guy but people seem to think it's like some sort of lightning speed chess match "oh hey blue's microed his way into spotting that red is going paper, a variety of options lie open to blue now but our experts definitely think that scissors would be a very strong play here given this new intel" yeah ok there's a bit of strategy to it but i'm guessing sc players don't train by sitting in a darkened room thinking very intensely about the tactical and strategic implications of 4pool vs 12 hive or whatever the gently caress the canned build orders are called
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Aug 23, 2017 18:17
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Sagebrush posted:I put a bunch of stuff that we need for the shops on an Amazon wish list that I send to the department purchasing people, so it continuously tells me "treat yourself yourself to a little something: 1L reagent-grade tetrahydrofuran" etc when I want to buy a thing, I put it in my basket on a bunch of websites and then just wait a couple days for one of them to email some special 30% off coupons or whatever works p well
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Aug 23, 2017 18:21
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Sapozhnik posted:iirc starcraft skill is 90% how good you are at fighting the ui and maybe 10% how good you are at doing rock-paper-scissors against the other guy but people seem to think it's like some sort of lightning speed chess match e: like if they get a glance at the build bar of any single building, based on the time they can intuit out the entire enemy strategy e2: I mean I was a masters level sc2 player and I could do that; I wasn't even in the REALM of these people e3: rip zeez Bhodi fucked around with this message at 18:32 on Aug 23, 2017 |
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Aug 23, 2017 18:28
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Sapozhnik posted:iirc starcraft skill is 90% how good you are at fighting the ui and maybe 10% how good you are at doing rock-paper-scissors against the other guy but people seem to think it's like some sort of lightning speed chess match this is a lot less untrue of chess than you seem to be implying. high-level chess has stock openings and endgames and even a "meta" also lol at saying 4 pool and then pretending you're soooo disinterested in starcraft
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Aug 23, 2017 18:30
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here's you: can you believe people even care about this game when terran reaper strats are so broken right now here is an actual person who doesn't give a poo poo: why am i looking at a screen full of aliens when i could be making mad gains
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Aug 23, 2017 18:33
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rjmccall posted:here's you: can you believe people even care about this game when terran reaper strats are so broken right now
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Aug 23, 2017 18:36
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Bhodi posted:they absolutely do and they know timings down to the second so they can interpret the quarter-second glance at a fraction of the enemy base before their scout got quashed, there is a TON of time dedicated to testing and tweaking openings and variations, and because they are all roughly equal (flawless at pro level) when it comes to micro execution in the first 10 minutes so it's 100% strategy and mindgames lol
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Aug 23, 2017 18:43
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being proud of stupid and pointless things is the human condition
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Aug 23, 2017 18:49
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Bhodi posted:they absolutely do and they know timings down to the second so they can interpret the quarter-second glance at a fraction of the enemy base before their scout got quashed, there is a TON of time dedicated to testing and tweaking openings and variations, and because they are all roughly equal (flawless at pro level) when it comes to micro execution in the first 10 minutes so it's 100% strategy and mindgames what is it about Blizzard games that makes people so pathetic
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Aug 23, 2017 18:50
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Dixie Cretin Seaman posted:lucky for amazon their competition is even stupider: my wife orders groceries from one of the supermarket curbside pickup services and their app has an order wizard that suggests items based on your order history. there are multiple items we order every single week that she has to manually find and add each time bc it never suggests them for new orders. really basic poo poo like milk and frozen veggies guarantee that order wizard is all paid placement
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Aug 23, 2017 19:05
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Cocoa Crispies posted:a computer will never knoww the joy of taking a dump the morning after a dinner of just a fuckload of lettuce and cabbage and citrus fruit and asparagus and that's kinda sad to me could you expand on this for my research thx
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Aug 23, 2017 19:08
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Dixie Cretin Seaman posted:nah not the mass bunny death thing, im talking about the bitcoin guy logansryche who (years ago) ran a virtual charity soliciting donations to buy virtual pet food for virtual animals. logansryche had mass bunny death when he ran out of fake food and had to "burry" tens of thousands of virtual bunnies silence_kit posted:Oh, I thought you had to go to the dealership to do that and that dealership laws are a huge part of the reason why manufacturers cannot provide updates on their websites. Are you getting your update officially & directly from Ford? what you're generally thinking of is that most people who would update those cars take it to the dealer. because they're olds that can barely figure out how to type their racisms into facebook, let alone transferring a file from the manufacturer site to a usb drive or other physical media. similarly, back when those systems would get updated through a DVD you'd place into a hidden second drive (eg with older ford explorers, there was a button thing to press in the menus that would push the screen assembly out and expose a dvd drive for the maps dvd), most people would have the dealer or maybe a mechanic do that, instead of ordering the cd direct from ford to put in themselves
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Aug 23, 2017 19:16
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lancemantis posted:they love combat micro combat janitoring
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Aug 23, 2017 19:18
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Powaqoatse posted:when I want to buy a thing, I put it in my basket on a bunch of websites and then just wait a couple days for one of them to email some special 30% off coupons or whatever good thing they start with showing you 30% higher prices
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Aug 23, 2017 19:31
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rjmccall posted:here's you: can you believe people even care about this game when terran reaper strats are so broken right now NoneMoreNegative posted:combat janitoring
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Aug 23, 2017 19:41
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https://twitter.com/JenniferJJacobs/status/900425924675592193
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Aug 23, 2017 19:44
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trump making the internet illegal would absolutely make america great again
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Aug 23, 2017 19:48
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Gonna guess larger context doesn't help here
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Aug 23, 2017 19:54
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I'm guessing he's talking about the Army Cyber Warriors
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Aug 23, 2017 19:56
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they're closing down fyad for real this time
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Aug 23, 2017 20:18
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Bhodi posted:they absolutely do and they know timings down to the second so they can interpret the quarter-second glance at a fraction of the enemy base before their scout got quashed, there is a TON of time dedicated to testing and tweaking openings and variations, and because they are all roughly equal (flawless at pro level) when it comes to micro execution in the first 10 minutes so it's 100% strategy and mindgames this is why multiplayer starcraft is absolutely impenetrable to new players the training mode thing they put in sc2 is ridiculous because it basically just babysits you through specific timed actions and then yells at you that you hosed up if you, like, place a pylon a second too early or whatever
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Aug 23, 2017 20:29
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uber promoted 7 people to VP positions 
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Aug 23, 2017 20:31
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ADINSX posted:It does that for all kinds of poo poo when it should really "know better". Just bought a coffee table? What about ANOTHER COFFEE TABLE! Just bought a new computer? Another computer would go great with that! So the eclipse glasses are obviously  but the best time to sell to someone (other than immediately before they buy) is right after as the shine comes off but before the returns period ends. Or so I've been told, I don't know anything about sales.
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Aug 23, 2017 20:35
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duTrieux. posted:this is why multiplayer starcraft is absolutely impenetrable to new players i mean, it's impenetrable in the same sense that any video game with a pro circuit is
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Aug 23, 2017 20:39
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counterstrike is "move around, shoot mans, dont get shot by other mans" seems p.approachable to me
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Aug 23, 2017 20:46
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duTrieux. posted:this is why multiplayer starcraft is absolutely impenetrable to new players tutorials are hard
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Aug 23, 2017 20:47
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is pro gaming even fun to watch over some guy streaming on twitch? I don't generally even enjoy that so maybe I'm not the target audience actually I wouldn't know where to find find it other than twitch so maybe they're the whole market?
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Aug 23, 2017 21:00
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Sapozhnik posted:counterstrike is "move around, shoot mans, dont get shot by other mans" my experience playing cs taught me the skills of "aim", "hide behind things", and "mute the middle school boys yelling slurs into their mics"
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Aug 23, 2017 21:01
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Lutha Mahtin posted:my experience playing cs taught me the skills of "aim", "hide behind things", and "mute the middle school boys yelling slurs into their mics" Wonder how long it would take a neural network to learn that second rule
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Aug 23, 2017 21:02
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ADINSX posted:Wonder how long it would take a neural network to learn that second rule Never, it would just join them. Remember MS Tay? https://twitter.com/geraldmellor/status/712880710328139776/
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Aug 23, 2017 21:05
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Munkeymon posted:is pro gaming even fun to watch over some guy streaming on twitch? I don't generally even enjoy that so maybe I'm not the target audience i mean they get camera crews and poo poo in there and the big teams are under pressure for million dollar prizes and poo poo. i guess if you were going to watch that at all you'd watch that over Some Guy
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Aug 23, 2017 21:17
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fishmech posted:logansryche had mass bunny death when he ran out of fake food and had to "burry" tens of thousands of virtual bunnies when i had a mercury milan it used a DVD for the maps for it's navigation and it owned because whenever a new version came out ford wanted to charge $200 to update it but the ISOs were on torrent sites in a few days and you could just pop them in
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Aug 23, 2017 21:23
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Munkeymon posted:is pro gaming even fun to watch over some guy streaming on twitch? I don't generally even enjoy that so maybe I'm not the target audience some big tournaments like ESL do some streaming on YouTube the appeal of pro gaming is pretty much the same as pro sports the appeal of streamers is like if your favorite pro athletes wore cameras during practice and talked about what they were doing while doing it/bullshitting with their teammates and the crowd
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Aug 23, 2017 21:27
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Munkeymon posted:actually I wouldn't know where to find find it other than twitch so maybe they're the whole market? people try to capture some of the market, but lol no we're pretty much it time and time again ThePeavstenator posted:the appeal of streamers is like if your favorite pro athletes wore cameras during practice and talked about what they were doing while doing it/bullshitting with their teammates and the crowd ding ding ding
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Aug 23, 2017 21:28
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cool the av club switched to the gawker blog thing. one more on the pile of crappy infinite scrolling blogs
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Aug 23, 2017 21:29
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hifi posted:cool the av club switched to the gawker blog thing. one more on the pile of crappy infinite scrolling blogs not only is it a crappy infinite scrolling blog now but they hosed up their ssl certs 
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Aug 23, 2017 21:33
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is this the thread where the student sc2 ai tournament was linked those were entertaining matches to watch, some of the AI is really verbose about what it's doing
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Aug 23, 2017 21:49
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Munkeymon posted:is pro gaming even fun no, pro gaming involves taking a fun activity and destroying it with money
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Aug 23, 2017 22:10
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Cocoa Crispies posted:no, pro gaming involves taking a fun activity and destroying it with money yeah, sucks when that happened to sex too
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