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The Sicilian posted:The high speed model has no interior. much less that one. If and when Lucid gets to Tesla's stage (about to release a fourth model and 100k+ cars on the road) I'll hold them to the same standard to which I hold Tesla.
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Ola posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aRbhWk99Xk I mean that's cool and all but it only demonstrates that they can produce a single cage-frame electric vehicle that can hit 235mph in a straight line when no consideration is given to any other factor. That's not in any way representative of the company's ability to make a mass-market (or even short-run luxury) street-legal electric vehicle. I could probably build a car that could do that if someone gave me a couple million dollars and a machine shop.
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drgitlin posted:If and when Lucid gets to Tesla's stage (about to release a fourth model and 100k+ cars on the road) I'll hold them to the same standard to which I hold Tesla. What? You must see the craziness of this statement. Tesla has beaten all the odds, released numerous products and keeps on punching. Lucid air has released a video of a stripped down frame only car, claimed a production speed record for a car not yet released and promised $60k entry point pricing. Put down the crack pipe and steady yourself, because this is mind boggling that you just made that statement. EDIT: All this talk of interiors or ride characteristics. I'll hold tesla to those standards when they have sold as many cars as Audi or Mercedes. The Sicilian fucked around with this message at 00:28 on Aug 23, 2017 |
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Aug 23, 2017 00:25
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Lucids car looks cooler
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drgitlin posted:If and when Lucid gets to Tesla's stage (about to release a fourth model and 100k+ cars on the road) I'll hold them to the same standard to which I hold Tesla. Whether I'm buying the very first car that a company makes or the millionth of their 8th iteration, I think I should evaluate them identically. It's not like manufacturers are giving discounts because they're still figuring stuff out.
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drgitlin posted:If and when Lucid gets to Tesla's stage (about to release a fourth model and 100k+ cars on the road) I'll hold them to the same standard to which I hold Tesla. Lucid is vapourware until it sells the first car. You even said they don't have a factory to build these things - if anything you should be holding them to a vastly harsher standard just on that fact alone. And nor can anyone even guess what the final car will be ESPECIALLY when they don't have production facilities. Lucid can promise to cure AIDS all it wants but until it's actually on the road, int he hands of a private driver it's just blowing smoke and should be treated with the cynicism that should attract, esp given the looooong history of failed new car company concepts.
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Aug 23, 2017 00:43
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Maybe naming your company after a type of dreaming wasn't the best idea.
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Ola posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aRbhWk99Xk On the one hand, I was hoping they were pulling an Autorama Corvette trick. On the other, I'd like to see it make production so actually being able to move is good.
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Godholio posted:On the one hand, I was hoping they were pulling an Autorama Corvette trick. On the other, I'd like to see it make production so actually being able to move is good. I too would like to see this make production (unlike the fat gently caress 91 with its 90" width), but looking at this company with rose tinted glasses before it has released more than a video, a meager amount of proof of concept vehicles and more promises than star citizen is insane. Btw, what's the status of the Chinese billionaire who's walking away from lucid and faraday future.
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Sagebrush posted:I mean that's cool and all but it only demonstrates that they can produce a single cage-frame electric vehicle that can hit 235mph in a straight line when no consideration is given to any other factor. That's not in any way representative of the company's ability to make a mass-market (or even short-run luxury) street-legal electric vehicle. From my younger days: You could do it for 100K as ICE car that will last about 6 hours of run time tops. Probably could do it for 250K no problem electric if all you wanted to do is get up to that speed. These are all completely straight line only cars. As to Lucid and Faraday, we'll see where they end up. I remember when Tesla just had a bunch of test sleds, so it is possible. HFX fucked around with this message at 04:13 on Aug 23, 2017 |
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I'm not sure if this is the right thread for this question, so point me elsewhere if there's a better place. I have a 2016 Nissan leaf S, I've been charging it with the charger it came with. We're having some electrical work done on my house and I have the option to install a charging station, and I'm not sure what the best thing to do here is - because the S doesn't support quick charging, is it even worthwhile to install a charging station? Is it a better idea to install a NEMA outlet instead so I have more versatility? It's worth noting that the car is a lease, so I'm not necessarily going to keep it for ten years, although when the lease ends (~18mo) I'm likely to lease another Leaf.
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legendof posted:I'm not sure if this is the right thread for this question, so point me elsewhere if there's a better place. All the Leaf-havers i know have one of these: https://openevse.com/ You'd still need some flavor of NEMA outlet, but it'd be less daily work to plug the car in than using the cord it comes with, and might go faster too.
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the nissan website for the 2017 leaf says it charges at 3.6/6.6 kW which is dedicated circuit/funny looking plug territory. I'm not sure what 'charging station' entails here but from google it just looks like a dongle you plug into an outlet and hang on your wall, in which case I wouldn't pay an electrician to do that but I would pay them to do all the funny plug logistics
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legendof posted:I'm not sure if this is the right thread for this question, so point me elsewhere if there's a better place. The S has a 3.3kW charger w/o CHAdeMO if you don't get the charge package. Only you can decide if charging 2.5x as fast is worth it, but keep in mind your next Leaf will have a minimum 6.6kW (~30A @ 240V) charger so you may want to future proof. I like my JuiceBox Pro 40A because I enjoy the data/logging/remote start, but also because it'll charge a Leaf @ 6.6kW or a Tesla @ 9.6kW. Personally, I'd install a 50A 240V circuit (NEMA 14-50, preferably, though it can be adapted) which will cover you for a long time. Are you sure you're gonna opt for a 2018 Leaf over a Model 3 or Bolt?
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Thanks, that's really helpful. For financial reasons I'm likely to stick with a Leaf vs a Bolt or Tesla.
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legendof posted:Thanks, that's really helpful. For financial reasons I'm likely to stick with a Leaf vs a Bolt or Tesla. Depending on where you live, the lease cost differential between a 2018 Leaf (when it arrives) and a Bolt may not be that big, just keep that in mind.
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call to action posted:Personally, I'd install a 50A 240V circuit (NEMA 14-50, preferably, though it can be adapted) which will cover you for a long time. This is the correct option, if you have the cash. Shouldn't be too bad, plus much faster charging.
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L2 (240v) is totally worth it for the home. CHAdeMO Is really overkill, agreed on the nema 14-50. I put in a 20amp from clipper creek for my volt and it's way better than the 120v.
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call to action posted:Depending on where you live, the lease cost differential between a 2018 Leaf (when it arrives) and a Bolt may not be that big, just keep that in mind. some of us like the look of the leaf more 
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It's the holiday weekend and charging networks are showing the strain. Flew from van nuys to concord and rented a Model S to drive to NAPA. The Superchargers have been slammed but destination chargers are saving the day. Anyone else experience this?
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Nope, quite the opposite. The Texas "gas crisis" has me sitting pretty. Saw someone walk over and pickup a pizza while waiting in line for gas on the street.
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The gas shortage is partially caused by people hoarding gas they don't even need. This is why price gouging should be legal. I'm a fill up the car I haven't driven for 6 months.
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Elephanthead posted:The gas shortage is partially caused by people hoarding gas they don't even need. This is why price gouging should be legal. I'm a fill up the car I haven't driven for 6 months. THERES A HURRICANE COMING, I NEED EIGHT CASES OF BOTTLED WATER FOR EACH PERSON IN MY FAMILY.
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Elephanthead posted:The gas shortage is partially caused by people hoarding gas they don't even need. This is why price gouging should be legal. I'm a fill up the car I haven't driven for 6 months. Or we can...just ban people filling a carful of plastic containers?
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Blue Footed Booby posted:Or we can...just ban people filling a carful of plastic containers? Lawn mowing companies need gas too
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Haha holy poo poo, just realized how fanatical and angry this came across. Like all my posts, they are banged out quickly between bouts of work. Read the quoted post below in all its glory. The Sicilian fucked around with this message at 20:11 on Sep 5, 2017 |
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Blue Footed Booby posted:Or we can...just ban people filling a carful of plastic containers? Agreed rations also work but then I can't drive my 454 chevette very far. Freedom1!!! Letting the price be $50 a gallon lets people choose. (Except the poor they are hosed to die).
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The Sicilian posted:Our resident AR's writer has posted a new infuriating ad for the Chevy Bolt. My favorite part is the lack of disclosure or press junket in the article about being flown out, fed, put in hotels and given a "completely normal" Bolt. Like, is this your first day or something? Were you by any chance homeschooled?
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Finger Prince posted:Like, is this your first day or something? Were you by any chance homeschooled? Sorry I thought there were laws and regulations about press junkets and disclosure when something is being done as an advertisement rather than a news story.
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The Sicilian posted:Sorry I thought there were laws and regulations about press junkets and disclosure when something is being done as an advertisement rather than a news story. So, yes then.
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Finger Prince posted:So, yes then. LOL, this isn't Motortrend with the gotta-have-it factor, or whatever bullshit metric they used to push advertiser's cars ahead of the rest of the pack, this is wholesale deceptive advertising. And coming from the man who defended Lucid Air as saying, I will hold them to standards like production or other standard metrics only when they have sold as many models as Tesla. Get a clue, this is dishonest to bad automotive journalism. A GM press releases is more objective.
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The Sicilian posted:LOL, this isn't Motortrend with the gotta-have-it factor, or whatever bullshit metric they used to push advertiser's cars ahead of the rest of the pack, this is wholesale deceptive advertising. Stop posting.
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drat don't get on the wrong side of the tesla mafia
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Ola posted:Stop posting. I'll leave it at this, Gitlin is as bad or worse than Elektrek; even a disclosure stating they paid for their airfare, accommodations and travel to and from the track; differing from other publications taking part in the test, would have been better this schlock. Anyone else surprised the i3 didn't get a range update?
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The Sicilian posted:LOL, this isn't Motortrend with the gotta-have-it factor, or whatever bullshit metric they used to push advertiser's cars ahead of the rest of the pack, this is wholesale deceptive advertising. Well I don't know about you, but I am shocked, shocked! that the author of this hotel review in this inflight magazine neglected to mention they were being plied with free drinks all night when they described the bartender Bruno's Cuba Librés as "sublime". I have been to that hotel and despite the several over priced and frankly average rum and cokes I drank, Bruno still refused my advances. Disgusting journalism. I'm cancelling my subscription.
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Finger Prince posted:Well I don't know about you, but I am shocked, shocked! that the author of this hotel review in this inflight magazine neglected to mention they were being plied with free drinks all night when they described the bartender Bruno's Cuba Librés as "sublime". I have been to that hotel and despite the several over priced and frankly average rum and cokes I drank, Bruno still refused my advances. Disgusting journalism. I'm cancelling my subscription. So were these Instagrammer "influencers" who the FTC reached out to, reminding them of the mandatory disclosure rules. https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/press-releases/2017/04/ftc-staff-reminds-influencers-brands-clearly-disclose
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The Sicilian posted:So were these Instagrammer "influencers" who the FTC reached out to, reminding them of the mandatory disclosure rules. So write a loving letter, nobody cares.
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