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starkebn posted:It has to do with American not bothering to occasionally rise above that. I guess Kubo comes close if you count it, but when was the last American Ernest & Celestine / The Illusionist / Red Turtle / Ghibli-like movie / Book of Kells / Song of the Sea / etc? Over the Garden Wall, Rango, Fantastic Mr Fox?
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They're all good, I'll pay that. Rango it's pretty borderline though, and OtGW is a show, but still a good list.
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Surely it hasn't been that long since An Oversimplification of Her Beauty came out?
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I don't think it's any well-kept secret that cinematic animation is almost exclusively seen as children's entertainment in the US. Every time we get an A Scanner Darkly or a Sausage Party, everyone acts like it's so novel that it's animated, but for adults?!? 2D and 3D animation are also a lot of the general public's understanding of animation. Stop-motion is its own weird, niche section that folks don't quite consider Animation As We Know It, but a stylistic quirk. And they refer to it solely as claymation, which shouldn't bug me as much as it does. Now integrated animation! That's seen as For Adults and isn't really considered animation. Like you will find a poo poo-ton of people who don't consider Avatar an animated movie. Things like OtGW are seen as purely children's entertainment, despite really being for a general audience in the vein of Disney animation. You try to show it to someone not already interested in animation, their first thought is "This is a cartoon and therefore for children." So maybe the industry is willing, but the public is not? The US really does have a weird bias against enjoying animation as an adult, to the point where they deny animation is animation, it's special effects!
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did OtGW not go over well when it came out? I ask because a bunch of my friends recommended it to me and I thought it was a pretty cool, though one of my friends had to convince me to keep watching it since I was a little put off by the disconnect between the pilot and the first episode
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It went over very well with a particular group of people. I guarantee you most people have never heard of it.
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Aces High posted:did OtGW not go over well when it came out? I ask because a bunch of my friends recommended it to me and I thought it was a pretty cool, though one of my friends had to convince me to keep watching it since I was a little put off by the disconnect between the pilot and the first episode
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The latest Overwatch animated short  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tjcm_kI0n0
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The Overwatch short is real pretty, the dialog isn't too hot but I really enjoyed it. Blizzard also making a new animated short series for it's other casual-ish game Hearthstone that really wants to be Disney. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPguoeYTvMI
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Aces High posted:After watching King of the Hill for so many years I just think of Donald's incoherent speech like I do with Boomhauer. They both are coherent to the other characters in the show and that's a big part of the joke, I find both to be coherent enough at the right times when you absolutely need to understand what they are saying. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdyGfiIirD8
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Speaking of Boomhauer, what are everyone's favorite specific line deliveries in an animated feature? Like, which specific lines from which films do you think were done exactly right--perfectly delivered? I'd say these count:
* You hear me, WDAS?! 
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My favorite is whenever a character gets hurt in a trailer and it cuts to a completely unrelated shot of someone going "THAT'S GOTTA HURT!"
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Pick posted:Speaking of Boomhauer, what are everyone's favorite specific line deliveries in an animated feature? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yn9RDrD3H8
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Waffleman_ posted:My favorite is whenever a character gets hurt in a trailer and it cuts to a completely unrelated shot of someone going "THAT'S GOTTA HURT!" >:(
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Or do you prefer "He's gonna feel THAT in the morning!"
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Most of my favourite animations is anime so its hard to pick out line readings. I did really like chief bogo's "it was already broken" line in Zootopia though.
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Pick posted:Speaking of Boomhauer, what are everyone's favorite specific line deliveries in an animated feature? For some reason, "Fire bad. FIRE VERY BAD!" from Hotel Transylvania put me into a laughing fit. Also, Kylie saying "Apple juice... apple juice flood." in Fantastic Mr. Fox.
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Look, GonSmithe, okay, I get it. Can I just ask, honestly and kind of upset and looking for an honest conversation about this: is saying that I'd like an action figure of a character in a movie I like really ban-worthy?
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Pick posted:Speaking of Boomhauer, what are everyone's favorite specific line deliveries in an animated feature? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4oJhbhhRaA "...like a little homeless lady~  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LVXjB_VUfk "Why aren't you seizing the boy?!"
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Hedrigall posted:Look, GonSmithe, okay, I get it. Stop loving talking about anything related to liking animals in this thread, ever.
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GonSmithe posted:Stop loving talking about anything related to liking animals in this thread, ever. I dunno, but it seems kind of not cool to arbitrarily slam a poster with multiple bans based on rules that aren't in the forum rules or the OP as far as I can see, especially when the alleged transgressions are as germane and harmless as 'I'd rather have merchandise of X' when the thread is currently discussing the merchandise for an animated film. I mean, if rules aren't clearly laid out and enforced fairly they're not really rules, just arbitrary post-facto rationalizations, right? In addition, a cursory examination of the rule reveals it to seem overbroad; animals are often featured in animated films either as side characters or primary antagonists/protagonists so the rule essentially cuts out a lot of potential discussion that the thread is supposed to be about. Is that the goal, to restrict the thread to only discussing the animation of humans?
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I feel like mentioning "(any feline character)" is a clear reference to the running thing of Heid wanting to gently caress lions and poo poo. Like, I feel like your argument would have more weight if dude had actually named a specific character. Waffleman_ fucked around with this message at 04:57 on Aug 24, 2017 |
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Maybe anyone who can't understand the subtle difference between talking about cartoons with animals in them and furry fandom/"X animal type is so cool and/or sexy" should just see themselves out of the thread.
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Personally, I'm totally fine with the dude who has caused multiple derails in this thread about loving cartoons having a focused rule about not doing that under threat of continued bans.
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Counterpoint: In the rules of Games if you even joke about anime fans being pedophiles they will ban you unless you can provide explicit evidence against a specific poster to support your claim. I think furries should be held to the same standards, anyone who wants to accuse someone of wanting to gently caress an animal should have proof.
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LeJackal posted:I dunno, but it seems kind of not cool to arbitrarily slam a poster with multiple bans based on rules that aren't in the forum rules or the OP as far as I can see, especially when the alleged transgressions are as germane and harmless as 'I'd rather have merchandise of X' when the thread is currently discussing the merchandise for an animated film. I mean, if rules aren't clearly laid out and enforced fairly they're not really rules, just arbitrary post-facto rationalizations, right? No, the goal is for you idiots to go to a furry forum to talk about loving animals instead of posting about it in the Animation thread because no one wants to read about how much you want to gently caress animals. It's pretty clear cut. Don't act like this is coming from nowhere. Labes for days posted:Maybe anyone who can't understand the subtle difference between talking about cartoons with animals in them and furry fandom/"X animal type is so cool and/or sexy" should just see themselves out of the thread. Correct GonSmithe fucked around with this message at 05:30 on Aug 24, 2017 |
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GonSmithe posted:Stop loving talking about anything related to liking animals in this thread, ever. I can't imagine being so mentally weak that someone mentioning animals in a thread about animation sends you into a rage. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Yeah, gonna be honest: every time the furry stuff comes up, this thread gets about as uncomfortable as this.
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Thanks everyone for the movie recommendations and discussions over the years. This thread has helped me broaden my horizons. I've discovered some great older toons and foreign animation here. Lots to look forward to as well: Spirited Away on the big screen with my bf tonight; Ghibli museum in Tokyo in only a few weeks; continuing my Pixar watch-through up until Coco this December; and cool looking new movies and sequels in the coming years. Maybe I'll catch some of you in other subforums here, or elsewhere on the net. The friends I've made here, chat to you in the other places soon  Unmature keep up your thing, I'm still supporting you on Patreon! Peace out.
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Pick posted:[*]You all said I was crazy! Well, who's crazy now? Me--crazy prepared. I really can't overstate how much I love this line
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Aces High posted:aww man it's like when Pick stopped posting in the bad webcomics thread gently caress off.
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I beg of you; please, whoever you are, do not gently caress lions.
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Oh, the gently caress? Most of those derails are caused by people who don't otherwise post in this thread coming in to do OMG YOU'RE SICK. This is dumb as gently caress.
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Anyway I saw Your Name finally and enh.
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Fangz posted:Anyway I saw Your Name finally and enh. I also saw this for the first time a few days ago, and had a similar reaction. The animation is good and the acting is fine but the story completely fails to do anything new or interesting. Even if people hadn't ruined it by hyping it up so much before I got a chance to see it, I would still be ambivalent about the whole thing.
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Of his films I think it reminds me most of Children Who Chase Lost Voices From Far Below. The art covers up the cracks a bit better this time round, but the issues are similar. There's like a point at the 2/3rd mark when her messages start Mysteriously Disappearing from his phone, and they simultaneously develop the idea they love each other where it goes full Shinkai and it just grinds hard against where the earlier part of the film is going, and all the interesting character development bits just get unceremoniously dropped.
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Fangz posted:Oh, the gently caress? Most of those derails are caused by people who don't otherwise post in this thread coming in to do OMG YOU'RE SICK. Performative furry hate is sad and played out, honestly. (As is using mod powers to settle personal disputes. Seriously, GonSmith, drop the mod duties and go outside for a little while. You don't seem well.) (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST) (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Pick posted:Speaking of Boomhauer, what are everyone's favorite specific line deliveries in an animated feature? Can I just put "every single line by Kronk in The Emperor's New Groove"? I suppose if I could pick out just one, in terms of "how funny the delivery makes it" to "how funny it is written" ratio, it would be: "Break it down? Are you kidding me? This is hand-carved mahogany."
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