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Broad Street Hockey's Charlie O'Connor is going to The Athletic, which is a phenomenal move for him.
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https://twitter.com/DarrenDreger/status/900411581263118336 https://twitter.com/DarrenDreger/status/900412337689174018 Easiest path to the NHL.
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Jordan7hm posted:That's what Calgary is doing. I figured someone like Vegas would easily open their books for him. I know he could fall off the rails this year, but I wouldn't bet on it. Ginette Reno posted:Their new play-by-play guy is kinda boring. I miss Pete Weber. For a minute I thought Nashville had that crazy bowling guy from the 90s doing broadcast.
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Aug 23, 2017 18:45
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Well we can now safely say Kerfoot is not a winner
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Jamwad Hilder posted:i will be sending DMs every day to the Bruins twitter account asking them to tell sweeney to sign pastrnak either until am blocked or a deal is completed. i will become a thorn in the side of management. i will be labeled internally as "a disgruntled fan" Same but I'll talk about how much he likes to party.
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Kilza posted:https://twitter.com/DarrenDreger/status/900411581263118336 And here I thought Joe was gonna go into next season with the exact same roster and coach as last year. Free wallets, baby!
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Scratch that, I am dumb Thufir fucked around with this message at 19:08 on Aug 23, 2017 |
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Aug 23, 2017 19:04
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Thufir posted:I think with Kerfoot, Colorado now has 4 NHL-ish d-men under contract. Nope, still three. Kerfoot is a centre!
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Aug 23, 2017 19:07
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http://www.tsn.ca/1.836909.1503495945 RED WINGS' ATHANASIOU WEIGHING KHL OFFER #TSN heh
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Aug 23, 2017 19:17
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Gimme dat Duchene. 
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Visiting Dad at work: http://imgur.com/gallery/eMnVJKL
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Wilford Cutlery posted:Visiting Dad at work: http://imgur.com/gallery/eMnVJKL aaawwwwww 
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Mike Works posted:http://www.tsn.ca/1.836909.1503495945 And everyone still refuses to even consider an offer sheet. Ridiculous.
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Aug 23, 2017 21:40
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Fire Ken Holland loving immediately
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Colorado being that bad last year still astounds me. Like, sure, they are a badly constructed team. But they still have a bit of talent that, while still being in the bottom of the league, shouldn't really put them as being the worst team since the cap era began. The weird thing about all their talent like MacKinnon, Duchene, and Landeskog is that they all took gigantic steps back. What the heck!ThinkTank posted:A progression of: I thought this was interesting, so I checked to see how many players have actually played from their age-38 and beyond. 38: 190 39: 115 40: 60 41: 29 42: 16 It's amazing that the number gets nearly halfed every year. Mind you, the numbers are slightly skewed, because as conditioning has become better, more players are playing longer careers. Since 2000, 109 players have played until their age-38 season, compared to 81 in the previous 81 years. I just didn't realize how rare a player playing beyond 38 was. It also made me realize how impressive Jagr's return to the NHL has been. I never would have guessed that he would be able to do the things he has done. Also, Iginla ranks 41st out of 109 players since 2000 in PPG for players 38+.
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Yeah people talk like playing to 40 is something that's tough but attainable, but it's like living to 100. There are select examples of it happening, but for even the best conditioned individuals it's rare. Age is a completely unavoidable part of an athlete's career, but at the same time entirely predictable in the most straightforward way. That's why signing players to multi year 35+ contracts is so crazy to me. You're essentially betting on 100 to 1 or worse odds that they'll remain even 70% effective as they were in the few years prior to that. No matter how much you may admire a player as an athlete and an individual, there is a steep cliff after the mid 30s that with alarmingly few exceptions everyone tumbles down. It's a fact of life, and yet time and again GMs act like they've figured out the secret formula and throw huge contracts at guys who are washed up before the ink is dry.
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ThinkTank posted:Yeah people talk like playing to 40 is something that's tough but attainable, but it's like living to 100. There are select examples of it happening, but for even the best conditioned individuals it's rare. But what if the team can justify it because they have cap space? Plus, if a player still produces* at, say, 37, why not expect that to continued for, say, 3 more years? * sort of
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Neodoomium posted:Fire Ken Holland loving immediately not soon enough
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Mike Works posted:http://www.tsn.ca/1.836909.1503495945 This is absolutely Athanasiou's agent putting public pressure on Detroit but it should never have gotten this far.
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So the KHL season started, and Preds prospect Eeli Tolvanen scored a hat trick in his first professional game, all of them beauties. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-Taux3G6FE
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Colorado should send an offer sheet. It could be 3.9x4 and that'd be an overpay for AA but the compensation would only be a 2nd. Detroit doesn't have the cap space to match. Plus, Sakic would be revered if he restarted that old rivalry.
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DJExile posted:Broad Street Hockey's Charlie O'Connor is going to The Athletic, which is a phenomenal move for him. Good for him, but I will really miss his coverage. I've been seeing references to the Atheletic but haven't looked into it. Looks like they're shooting to corner having the best local sports news? For me, I'm at the point where everything seems to be a subscription. But on the flip side, if it's as good as say, his writing at BSH, I'll consider it. I have bookmarked BSH, and SB Nation's blogs for the Preds and Blues, and it's just a huge difference on how much better BSH is. I couldn't tell you what it is, but if my only choice is pay for better, or have really meh articles, I'll start considering another drat subscription.
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Aug 24, 2017 01:40
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If we lose one of the only genuinely exciting young players with pace we have because we're obsessed with giving grind liners $Texas deals with NMCs they should fold the franchise, because obviously loving firing Ken Holland isn't an option at Pizza HQ
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If I can survive Thornton, Kessel, Seguin, and Hamilton, you can survive some loving sub-30 point kid walking
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stop giving guys like justin abdelkader 8 year contracts with nmcs justin abdelkader is trash
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How many people on the Wings have full NMCs?
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Only Frans Nielsen (2022) has a NMC. The following players have NTCs: Gus Nyquist (2019) Justin Abdelkader (2023) Darren Helm (2021) Mike Green (2018) Dan DeKeyser (2022) Niklas Kronwall (2019) Jonathan Ericsson (2020) Trevor Daley (2020) Jimmy Howard (2019) That is approximately 10 too many NMC/NTCs. Neodoomium fucked around with this message at 03:49 on Aug 24, 2017 |
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JoelJoel posted:And everyone still refuses to even consider an offer sheet. Ridiculous. I mean it's possible some teams have sent him an offer but he hasn't accepted it. You'd think such a thing would leak but you never know. Neodoomium posted:Only Frans Nielsen (2022) has a NMC. That's a lot of mediocre players
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To be clear, I am not anti-NTC/NMC. I am anti-giving them to mediocre players
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Duckman2008 posted:Good for him, but I will really miss his coverage. I'm really interested to see what happens with their Habs coverage. Arpon Basu is a huge scoop for them.
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Neodoomium posted:Only Frans Nielsen (2022) has a NMC. Lot of guys have dirt on Ken Holland, huh.
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Levitate posted:I mean it's possible some teams have sent him an offer but he hasn't accepted it. You'd think such a thing would leak but you never know. Tru. The fact that we basically never hear about them being offered and rejected, or even rumours of them being offered makes me think gms just ignore them altogether. Which is dumb.
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Duckman2008 posted:Good for him, but I will really miss his coverage. At first I was pretty excited to see Bourne join up with The Athletic. I figured he was going to be doing NHL-wide stuff, whatever team/game/event was interesting. I enjoy his writing and his systems breakdowns are good stuff. Sadly, I think he's going to be more Toronto-centric (he was with the Marlies for.... some time?). I don't actually know what local writers I'd be excited to see as far as New York sports go. AKAIK They don't have any NY sports writers yet.
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Duckman2008 posted:Good for him, but I will really miss his coverage. As much as I liked his coverage at The Dispatch, I'm going to have to think long and hard about dropping $50 so I can read Aaron Portzline continue to misspell words he should know how to spell for the Cleveland Blue Jackets (as The Athletic have they and OSU sorted). Then again, I don't know who the hell is left at the paper other than Michael Arace and his occasional bordering-on-trolling articles. Levitate posted:That's a lot of mediocre players Hey now, Stanley Cup hero Trevor Daley is on that list.
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Zat posted:So the KHL season started, and Preds prospect Eeli Tolvanen scored a hat trick in his first professional game, all of them beauties. It would be rad if he turned into a good NHLer as the 30th pick. I think his draft stock fell some because he got his admission to BC rescinded for academic reasons. CBJSprague24 posted:Hey now, Stanley Cup hero Trevor Daley is on that list. That might be the worst one. "Hey our team is probably going to be terrible for a while. Let's give a 33 year-old a 3 year deal with a NTC!" Thufir fucked around with this message at 15:09 on Aug 24, 2017 |
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CBJSprague24 posted:As much as I liked his coverage at The Dispatch, I'm going to have to think long and hard about dropping $50 so I can read Aaron Portzline continue to misspell words he should know how to spell for the Cleveland Blue Jackets (as The Athletic have they and OSU sorted). The Athletic is trying to position itself as the smart, insightful Playboy-of-the-70s-of-the-Modern-Sports-World by snapping up a bunch of moderately well respected (if somewhat smug) writers, and burning through a crap ton of capital to do so. However, it's not really creating a unique niche for itself that I can see. So far, its just taken a bunch of writers that were previously free and stuck them behind a pay wall and asked consumers to pay for the privilege of getting access to them again. They act like somehow this will enable the writers they've hired to produce more content, but for the most part they were paid newspaper employees or prolific bloggers. None of them were ever particularly short on content, and I doubt the Athletic can provide more contacts to them than they had already had (aside from a few outsider bloggers who might now have media passes). In a world of oodles of free sports information and content it seems like a risky venture, especially at the price point they're asking. They're essentially charging the same rate as a top end feature magazine but with an incredibly limited focus right now and no real reputation to speak of yet. They're expecting their subscribers to foot the bill while they promise to expand, which is what a lot of kickstarter projects have got a lot of heat for doing. If they can't quickly grow and produce award winning content, this is going to come down like a ton of bricks. It's the newspaper equivalent of paying for potential. They might have the gravitas to attract a host of incredible writers and produce some world class content, but they're just as likely to flatline or fizzle out from here. The only distinction I see from a hundred other failed online sports magazines like the Sportsnet Magazine is that they're not under the umbrella of a parent organization. That makes them seem maybe a little more free to do as they wish, but at the same time they don't have a reputation to fall back on yet. This feels like if Netflix had launched entirely with its own content. While it might be very good at times, there's no real reason for someone to subscribe at the moment. What does the Athletic provide that a million other sports websites, blogs and twitter users don't? A freedom from corporate influence? They're funded by venture capitalists. Some well respected writers? A few, but newspapers still corner the market on that and many have moved to free versions of their content. It doesn't even have a 'hook' article series or perspective that people want like the Players' Tribune (which is free btw). I just don't see why I'm supposed to spent $100+ a year on what's essentially a glorified blog. It's an interesting idea, but the articles I've read are no different from anything else out there. Part of me is a bit torn because I know this is an attempt to find a novel solution to the dying print newspaper industry, but man oh man are they putting the cart before the horse here. ThinkTank fucked around with this message at 15:23 on Aug 24, 2017 |
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JoelJoel posted:And everyone still refuses to even consider an offer sheet. Ridiculous. Because he's not worth it. He's a fine player but let's not pretend he's some mega game breaking talent.
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Grantland with crappier writers, a smaller focus, and a subscription fee. On the other hand my brother charges people 5$/week to read his articles about fantasy golf so who knows what will play.
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The Athletic will last about a year in its current format and be dead within 3.DJExile posted:Because he's not worth it. He's a fine player but let's not pretend he's some mega game breaking talent. That just makes it better to offer sheet because then you only need to send back like a 3rd.
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